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Who is this british officer?

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Jools mckenna

All I know is that he was awarded the MC as his first medal, he's a captain and he's from the Queen's Royal West Surrey Regiment. I've found 2 officers who fit this criteria using the London gazette; 

22 June 1915/ Captain A. E. Beattie, attached 4th Battalion, Nigeria Regiment (gazette still puts him under west surrey regiment)
·         Captain Arthur Percival Hamilton, The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment), Adjutant 18th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (London Irish Rifles), Territorial Force.

But I could have missed someone.

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Jacorb

I'm not guaranteeing anything, but I would say Captain Arthur is the one, the arm cuffs on the uniform speak more West front than Nigeria to me, with arm cuffs on the West front uniform.

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HTSCF Fareham

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Jools mckenna

Definitely not him then.

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Jools mckenna

I must have missed someone. As its probably not Beattie as he was serving with the Nigeria regiment(wouldn't he wear the Nigerian regiment cap badge?)

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Mark1959

His MIC shows Nigerian Regiment then the Queen's. So possibly him. But pic does not look as if it is Africa so we need to prove he went to Europe

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Jools mckenna
Just now, Mark1959 said:

His MIC shows Nigerian Regiment then the Queen's. So possibly him. But pic does not look as if it is Africa so we need to prove he went to Europe

When I get back, I will look into the gazette to see if I've missed anybody and also look into promotions(temporary and permanent)

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Mark1959

According to a family tree this is Beattie in later life

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I would say he looks a good fit but not conclusive

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Jools mckenna
4 minutes ago, Mark1959 said:

 

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I would say he looks a good fit but not conclusive

I have to say that could be him.

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Mark1959

This appears to refer to Beattie. Born in Stirling 25/1/1888. Died 14/4/1951

 

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Stirling paper 8/1/16.

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Mark1959

And a week later 15/1/16

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Jools mckenna

So not the mystery man on horseback. 

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Jools mckenna

Here a list of officers who were awarded the MC

The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment). Awarded the Military Cross. Captain A. E. Beattie, attached 4th Battalion, Nigeria Regiment.

Second Lieutenant A. R. Abercrombie, attached 1st Battalion, East Surrey Regiment.

Second Lieutenant J. H. Musson. Second Lieutenant M. D. Wilson (Special Reserve), attached 1st Battalion, Lincolnshire Regiment.

Lieutenant H. C. Williams.

Cobb W R Captain

Lieutenant R. K. Ross

Ryan A E Captain MC 11th West Surrey Regt 

Selous F H B Captain MC R West Surrey Regt 

Walter J S Captain MC 7th West Surrey 

Wyndham G H MC 8th West Surrey 

Wooster C D H Captain

Ford N S 2nd Lt

Crichton A J 2nd Lt MC 1st The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment)

Lieutenant Alexander Ralph Abercrombie, 1st Battalion, The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment).-same guy as before

Captain Arthur Percival Hamilton, The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment), Adjutant 18th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (London Irish Rifles), Territorial Force. For conspicuous gallantry on 25th September 1915, during the attack at Maroc and Loos. Although severely wounded early in the day, he remained in the German second line trench reorganising and encouraging the men till the consolidation was well advanced. He then had to be ordered to go back for medical attendance.

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Jools mckenna

Photos of 2 of the officers.

 

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Jools mckenna

Wooster C D H Captain

Ryan A E Captain MC 11th West Surrey Regt 

Selous F H B Captain MC R West Surrey Regt 

Walter J S Captain MC 7th West Surrey 

Cobb W R Captain

The Captains are the biggest suspects.

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Jools mckenna

Could it be Selous?

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Jools mckenna

Opinions?

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Mark1959

My view is No. But just one opinion

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Jools mckenna
2 minutes ago, Mark1959 said:

My view is No. But just one opinion

Thanks, the face is too long and the features are different. Just trying to revive this thread.

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Mark1959

There is a pic of 20+ Queen’s officers in the Surrey Mirror and County Post 8/6/1917. Wooster is far left on the back row. Reproduction  on FMP is so poor cannot hazard an opinion. He is in de Ruvigny’s but no pic. Killed 1918.

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Jools mckenna
1 minute ago, Mark1959 said:

There is a pic of 20+ Queen’s officers in the Surrey Mirror and County Post 8/6/1917. Wooster is far left on the back row. Reproduction  on FMP is so poor cannot hazard an opinion. He is in de Ruvigny’s but no pic. Killed 1918.

Poor man

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Jools mckenna
1 hour ago, Mark1959 said:

There is a pic of 20+ Queen’s officers in the Surrey Mirror and County Post 8/6/1917. Wooster is far left on the back row. Reproduction  on FMP is so poor cannot hazard an opinion. He is in de Ruvigny’s but no pic. Killed 1918.

Can you post that picture here?

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