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James Brown
On 12/01/2019 at 20:24, Derek Black said:


If you can find reference to men and their company in newspaper reports from early in their time abroad, as they often use their traditional designations for a while after merger in letters home, then compare them with those that have newer company details on CWGC, you may see a pattern, showing which companies merged.

 

The 5th Black Watch went to France on 1st November, 1914, there's no records of when they reorganised into 4 companies, but it was within a month of landing.


In their case it was a change to four numbered companies: A+B= No.1, B+C= No.2,.... and so on.

Cheers,

Derek.

Thanks derek that sounds logical I'll defo go over that

JB

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James Brown

Thank you all for your feedback

 

It is complicated and individually different for each regimental battalion. 

 

War diaries and official histories amy in some cases explain the mergers, other sources will be as ron said looking through the Newspapers, others have a reference on the CWGC as to their new Company. So would hopefully have to go back to the papers and maybe gather some info in the obituries or letters from other men. geographically in my case the 1/5th Bn RSF the older Company structure was identified by town and village as it states here

 

Newspaper - Ayrshire Post June 1914

Having given you the serious and technical side of affairs let me dwell a little on the fun at the camp. There are “wags” in every corps. These humorous Gents have styled each of the Companies by the various callings. Here they are: --

 

“A” Co.—The Ayr Jockeys.

“B” Co.—The Catrine Weavers.

“C” Co.—The Maybole Spriggers.

“D” Co.—The Stranraer Drovers.

“E” Co.—The Cumnock Coal Squad.

“F” Co.—The Troon Black Squad.

“G” Co.—The Muirkirk Howkers.

“H” Co.—The Dalmellington Mountaineers.

 

Catrine, Maybole, Stranraer, Cumnock, Troon, Muirkirk and Dalmellington were all towns and villages of Ayrshire

 

Thanks to all 

JB

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Muerrisch


In their case it was a change to four numbered companies: A+B= No.1, B+C= No.2,.... and so on.

 

Really?

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Derek Black
3 hours ago, Muerrisch said:


In their case it was a change to four numbered companies: A+B= No.1, B+C= No.2,.... and so on.

 

Really?

oops...

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Derek Black
3 hours ago, James Brown said:

Thank you all for your feedback

 

It is complicated and individually different for each regimental battalion.


The 19/12/1914 edition of the Sphere has a nice clear group photograph of the officers and men of the football team of No.2 Company the 5th RSF.
 

The officers are named: Capt. H.R. Haddow, Major John Russell, Lt. G. Brotherstone, 2nd Lt. H. Grierson.

 

Cheers,

Derek.

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Steven Broomfield
7 hours ago, Derek Black said:


The 19/12/1914 edition of the Sphere has a nice clear group photograph of the officers and men of the football team of No.2 Company the 5th RSF.
 

The officers are named: Capt. H.R. Haddow, Major John Russell, Lt. G. Brotherstone, 2nd Lt. H. Grierson.

 

Cheers,

Derek.

 

Out of interest, and given that we're talkig officers, is that an Association or a Union football team?

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Muerrisch

Hint: count the players.

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Graham Stewart

Battalion/Regimental Histories are a great help in our regimental research, but sometimes you just can't beat a good old Army Order to show you exactly what was going on.

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Derek Black
18 hours ago, Steven Broomfield said:

 

Out of interest, and given that we're talkig officers, is that an Association or a Union football team?


Association.
Unfortunately only the officers, in uniforms and not kits, posing with the players get named.

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