Guest Posted 30 December , 2018 Share Posted 30 December , 2018 Hi everyone, I just picked up this pistol from a friend, He basically told me give him whatever I want for it. I was thinking 500$, however finding info on this gun is very difficult. I'm thinking its from 1943 based on the serial number on it. its definitely .455 caliber. but its got some odd numbers on it that are crossed out and I'm curious what they are. Any info will be greatly appreciated, along with what anyone thinks it might be worth, if its worth a good deal more than 500 then i don't want to screw my buddy out of money, Thanks for your time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 30 December , 2018 Share Posted 30 December , 2018 Over here in Ireland you would get six months for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikB Posted 30 December , 2018 Share Posted 30 December , 2018 I'm sure someone more expert than myself will be along shortly, but I think the .455 Mk.IV - as distinct from the .38 version - was prominent around the late 1890s/early 1900s, and long out of production by 1943. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 30 December , 2018 Share Posted 30 December , 2018 (edited) Australian used and owned, also marked to QP which I believe is Queensland Police (with their rack number 282) - there may be lists of QP firearms around - I know there are for their early Enfields. SEE HERE Chris Edit $500 would be a bit low IMHO - but if its a friend who is not too worried. HERE IS ONE that sold for $700 Edited 30 December , 2018 by 4thGordons add info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shippingsteel Posted 30 December , 2018 Share Posted 30 December , 2018 Yes Chris, certainly issued to the Queensland Police initially (cancelled mark) and then taken into military service with additional Department of Defence stamp. This most likely occurred during WW2 when there was a severe shortage of small arms. Also the D^D stamp looks to be in the 'later' style. The 'Sold out Service' marking would most likely be from the original British contract to supply the revolvers to the Queensland Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 30 December , 2018 Share Posted 30 December , 2018 (edited) Wow thank you all so much for the info! This is an awesome history lesson on the pistol! I only guessed 1943 because I looked up the serial number and that seemed to be when it would have been made but I must have read something wrong. What year then should I assume it’s from? Thanks again for all the info! Edited 30 December , 2018 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie B Posted 31 December , 2018 Share Posted 31 December , 2018 This bloke would be interested in the details of your Webley Queensland Police 455 Webley Revolvers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reese williams Posted 31 December , 2018 Share Posted 31 December , 2018 I think you are confusing the .380 Mark IV with the .455 Mark IV in your dating attempt. Chris (4thGordons) has it pegged. The .455 Mark IV came on-line in 1899 and the Mark V in 1913. If you contact https://www.armsresearch.co.uk/ for a fee they may be able to give you a more exact date of production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 24 June , 2019 Share Posted 24 June , 2019 (edited) I have a 1915 webley mark v1 455" with original parts everything third serial number still there not rubbed out. Long barrel with the word england engraved on it. I would like to know if what i have is a good find. Help me please????????? Edited 26 June , 2019 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard2 Posted 27 June , 2019 Share Posted 27 June , 2019 Hi Mike, I don't understand what you mean by the third serial number. Are two serial numbers defaced, and another (third) still intact? Are you in America? I believe that England was stamped or engraved on British surplus arms imported into the USA prior to 1969. In my opinion, any Great War arm is a good find. It has historical value and interest, but I'm sorry that I cannot help with an estimate of its monetary value. There are people on this board with the expertise to give an approximate price, but they would need to know the condition of the gun. Photos would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reese williams Posted 27 June , 2019 Share Posted 27 June , 2019 Mike Green, You may be confusing unit markings with serial numbers. Look at the pictures above the 94171 is the serial number and yours should be in the same place. The third location will be on the rear circumference of the cylinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Campbell Posted 31 July , 2022 Share Posted 31 July , 2022 As far as my research shows Webley did not make the .455 during ww2 only the mark IV .38 S&W, on the side of the frame on my 1944 example is stamped War Finish , btw I live in Northern Ireland and you can own one if you have a valid Firearms Certificate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 1 August , 2022 Share Posted 1 August , 2022 13 hours ago, Keith Campbell said: As far as my research shows Webley did not make the .455 during ww2 The .455 revolver was officially replaced in 1928. Bruce and Reinhart "Webley Revolvers" (1988) indicates "1939 as the last production year for the .455 MkVI " (by that point known as the Pistol, Revolver, .455" No1 Mark VI) -- p208 They also say that this span 1914-1939 is the longest production span of all Webley Service Revolvers. They quote the highest serial number observed (in 1988 ie before the internet!) as 455231. Skennerton (British Small Arms of WWII 1988: 24) reports contracts for MkVI revolvers being signed in 1940 (and some undated) to a total of 25,969. It is not reported if these contracts were fulfilled. Contracts for repairs/parts were being signed up through 1942. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattchoppers Posted 8 September , 2022 Share Posted 8 September , 2022 I have a unit marked and officer named Webley numbers matched with a mirror bore, that looks to be shaved. His name is Captain F. Dingley and is mentioned in the book, " Birmingham pals." Nice find for 400 bucks I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Campbell Posted 8 September , 2022 Share Posted 8 September , 2022 royal Warwickshire Regiment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 14 October , 2022 Share Posted 14 October , 2022 Heck, that's a nice find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Campbell Posted 14 October , 2022 Share Posted 14 October , 2022 On 30/12/2018 at 19:31, museumtom said: Over here in Ireland you would get six months for it... Not in the North, you can own one if you have a firearms certificate and belong to a gun club. I have 2 a 1944 38 and a 1918 455 mk V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 8 June , 2023 Admin Share Posted 8 June , 2023 Welcome to the forum Jody. Your query is off topic for this forum, which deals with WW1 only. I would suggest that you try ww2talk.com. Members can of course carry on discussion re your mark 1V via private messages, but not on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NI shooter Posted 19 August , 2023 Share Posted 19 August , 2023 Have this 1918 webley mk vi revolver with this strange mark. Anyone know what it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 19 August , 2023 Share Posted 19 August , 2023 Welcome…. Looks to be a sold out of service stamp, that has been officially cancelled out. see here…http://oldmilitarymarkings.com/brit_bayo.html Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 20 August , 2023 Share Posted 20 August , 2023 6 hours ago, Dave66 said: Welcome…. Looks to be a sold out of service stamp, that has been officially cancelled out. see here…http://oldmilitarymarkings.com/brit_bayo.html Dave. Agree, Dave. Several scenarios suggest themselves but basically some variant of a weapon that was sold into private ownership (maybe an individual or maybe an organization) and then (perhaps later in early WWII when there was a shortage of weapons and an appeal for such) taken back into official govt ownership. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NI shooter Posted 20 August , 2023 Share Posted 20 August , 2023 Thanks all very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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