george page from hastings HELP

[weshallremember]

hello

looking for any information regarding george page

who worked at st johns v.a.d  hospital hastngs

what did he do on the railway,family,etc

thanks

trevor

[alf mcm]

Trevor,

  This record, on Ancestry, shows he worked as a Shunter at Hastings for the London, Brighton and South Coast Railways.https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1728/32167_626640_0516-00200?pid=535394&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DbmY21709%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26db%3Dukrailway%26gsfn%3DGEORGE%26gsln%3DPAGE%26gsfn_x%3D1%26gsln_x%3D1%26cp%3D0%26msydy%3D1915%26msydy_x%3D1%26msydp%3D5%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26redir%3Dfalse%26uidh%3D9y4%26gss%3Dangs-d%26pcat%3D37%26fh%3D13%26h%3D535394%26recoff%3D3%204%26ml_rpos%3D14&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=bmY21709&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true  There are probably more mentions of him in these records.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

[alf mcm]

Trevor,

  This obituary from 1936, on Findmypast, describes his 30 years ambulance service, and there is a photo of him. https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/viewarticle?id=bl%2f0000293%2f19300111%2f137

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

[clk]

Hi Trevor,

 

The bottom part of the 'medal' appears to show assay marks for Birmingham 1914, with the maker being W.M. Dowler & Sons. Are the 1916/17/18 parts hallmarked?

 

Regards

Chris

[alf mcm]

According bto the 1911 census, he is George Thomas Page, but the medal shows George S. Page! https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2352/rg14_04741_0951_03?pid=51069045&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DbmY21734%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26db%3D1911england%26gsfn%3Dgeorge%26gsln%3Dpage%26gsfn_x%3D1%26gsln_x%3D1%26cp%3D11%26gskw%3Dhastings%26gskw_x%3D1%26msbdy%3D1879%26msbdy_x%3D1%26msbdp%3D2%26qh%3DFBfOfR5xSG/whwk%2B4s4thA%3D%3D%26new%3D1%26redir%3Dfalse%26uidh%3D9y4%26gss%3Dangs-d%26rank%3D1%26pcat%3D35%26fh%3D3%26h%3D51069045%26recoff%3D%26ml_rpos%3D4&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=bmY21734&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

[weshallremember]

yes the bars are hallmarked

[weshallremember]

maybe this is not the right geoge page 

could not find a george s page

got the details from a hastings newspaper

[clk]

Hi Trevor,

 

21 minutes ago, weshallremember said:

yes the bars are hallmarked

 

That's interesting. Each of the bars seems to have the Birmingham mark, and date stamp which co-responds to the year show on the front. The 1916 one appears to have been made by W.M. Dowler & Sons; the 1917 one possibly by Vaughton & Sons. The 1918 one - I can't quite make out the makers mark. Rhetorical question - I wonder why there isn't a bar for 1915?

 

Regards

Chris

[alf mcm]

Trevor,

  Ancestry has some records for George S Page, living in Birmingham;-

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6598&h=2368137&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=bmY21765&_phstart=successSource

 

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/3145/GB0638-01026?pid=28284635&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D3145%26h%3D28284635%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DbmY21767%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=bmY21767&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

 

This could be the person mentioned on the medal.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

 

 

[clk]

Hi,

 

I don't think that the medallion/'bars' being made and assayed in Birmingham can tell us one way or another about where he lived and worked. I think that the key is linking the 185110 number to some St John Ambulance (or other) records. Do they have an archives section? Are the service details in post #1 linked by the number?

 

Regards

Chris

[weshallremember]

 https://vad.redcross.org.uk/

 

this red cross site only lists 3 george page 

but no number of badge.

[alf mcm]

It's important to remember that not every Red Cross member is recorded on the Red Cross website.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

[clk]

Hi,

 

I don't know, but hopefully someone else will...are people that volunteered/served with the St John Ambulance included in the database of those that volunteered/served with the Red Cross?

 

Regards

Chris

[alf mcm]

Chris,

   At the end of the war the Red Cross didn't actually know what their members had done. They therefore sent out questionaires to all members {including S.J.A.B.}. This resulted in the cards included in the BRC website. This all depended on members telling the Red Cross what they had done. Some members didn't reply because their address had changed, some had died, and some perhaps didn't want to reply. Although probably not relevant here, Scottish members do not seem to survived, apart from those who served abroad, or in an English/Irish/Welsh unit, although there are a few exceptions.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

[seaJane]

St John Ambulance has its own archives if I recall correctly.

 

 

Edited 29 December , 2018 by seaJane

[clk]

Thanks Alf McM,

 

That's interesting. I didn't know that. On that basis, it sounds like we can't 100% rule out that the service details don't relate to the medallion. I guess that the way for Trevor to go is to track down the archives that seaJane thinks exists, to see if they can help.

 

Regards

Chris

Edited 29 December , 2018 by clk

[seaJane]

1 hour ago, clk said:

the archives that seaJane thinks exists, 

Here they are:-

http://museumstjohn.org.uk/research/st-john-archive/

[alf mcm]

Trevor,

  I think that George Page mentioned on the Red Cross record card is George Page mentioned in the FMP newspaper article. However, he doesn't appear to be the person mentioned on the medal.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

[weshallremember]

how come this person was not conscripted in 1916

either age or job ?????

  

[weshallremember]

as a last resort i have contacted the paper that issued the obituary

to see if any relatives know if mr page had a middle name.

as with army records and census details some times middle names are not listed

trevor 

[alf mcm]

Trevor,

  It was common at the time for the mother's maiden surname to be used as a middle name, even if it didn't appear on a child's birth certificate.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM