neil williams Posted 9 November , 2018 Share Posted 9 November , 2018 Joined 5th west yorkshire regiment -territorials- 3 sept 1915 based in Harrogate fought in France and flanders Joined the Royal Engineers approx 1916 as corporal worked in signal company Lcorps airline section Transferred to Italy Nov 1917-March 1918 Made up to sargeant Retrained back to France 1918 awarded Meritorious Service medal 3June 1919-London Gazette died 1949 Can anybody help with more information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 9 November , 2018 Share Posted 9 November , 2018 Welcome Neil! Given the details you have provided I assume you know his army number(s). If so, could you provide. Given the common name there are a few possibles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 9 November , 2018 Share Posted 9 November , 2018 Hi and welcome I may be wrong but........ A quick google search for the Gazette entry gave me SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 3 JUNE, 1919. 6903 T3/026501 Sjt. Williams, A., 40th-T)iv. Train (Mexborough), S4/090843 Sjt. Williams, A. E., 33st Div. M.T. Coy. (Rhos). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil williams Posted 9 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2018 1 hour ago, Mark1959 said: Welcome Neil! Given the details you have provided I assume you know his army number(s). If so, could you provide. Given the common name there are a few possibles Thanks for that- details enclosed 5th west yorkshire regiment 1524 Royal engineers 72642 Hope this helps Neil Williams-grandson He had no middle name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil williams Posted 9 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2018 4 hours ago, jonbem said: Hi and welcome I may be wrong but........ A quick google search for the Gazette entry gave me SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 3 JUNE, 1919. 6903 T3/026501 Sjt. Williams, A., 40th-T)iv. Train (Mexborough), S4/090843 Sjt. Williams, A. E., 33st Div. M.T. Coy. (Rhos). His roll number for Royal Engineers was 72642 Sjt Arthur Williams-Harrogate No middle name Dont recognise the other details Hope that helps Neil Williams-grandson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil williams Posted 11 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 11 November , 2018 I posted a message 2days ago and received 2 replies Listed on column 2However when i went to check -my post was removed- Would there be any reason for this Can you help please Neil Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 11 November , 2018 Admin Share Posted 11 November , 2018 (edited) This one? It's still here Perhaps you are only seeing "unread content"? Edit - well it was there... Edited 23 November , 2018 by DavidOwen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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neil williams Posted 12 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 12 November , 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 10:59 AM, Mark1959 said: Welcome Neil! Given the details you have provided I assume you know his army number(s). If so, could you provide. Given the common name there are a few possibles Sorry for the delay in replying- army numbers enclosed 5th west yorkshire regiment 1524 corporal Royal engineers 72642 sargeant On 11/9/2018 at 10:59 AM, Mark1959 said: Welcome Neil! Given the details you have provided I assume you know his army number(s). If so, could you provide. Given the common name there are a few possibles sorry for the delay in replying-as follows 5th west yorkshire regiment 1524 Royal engineers 72642 hope this can help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil williams Posted 12 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 12 November , 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 11:19 AM, jonbem said: Hi and welcome I may be wrong but........ A quick google search for the Gazette entry gave me SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 3 JUNE, 1919. 6903 T3/026501 Sjt. Williams, A., 40th-T)iv. Train (Mexborough), S4/090843 Sjt. Williams, A. E., 33st Div. M.T. Coy. (Rhos). sorry for the delay-struggling to post reply-not easy to understand however= on vol 1 1919 page 236 MSM no 998 A WILLIAMS sargeant- listed Hope this helps Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil williams Posted 22 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 22 November , 2018 On 09/11/2018 at 10:59, Mark1959 said: Welcome Neil! Given the details you have provided I assume you know his army number(s). If so, could you provide. Given the common name there are a few possibles Thanks for replying-taking me time to sort things-hope this is what you need 5th west yorkshire regiment no.1524 royal engineers no.72642 Thanks again Neil Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil williams Posted 23 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 23 November , 2018 On 09/11/2018 at 11:19, jonbem said: Hi and welcome I may be wrong but........ A quick google search for the Gazette entry gave me SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 3 JUNE, 1919. 6903 T3/026501 Sjt. Williams, A., 40th-T)iv. Train (Mexborough), S4/090843 Sjt. Williams, A. E., 33st Div. M.T. Coy. (Rhos). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mark1959 Posted 26 November , 2018 Share Posted 26 November , 2018 (edited) The 3/9/1915 date you quote is the date he went to France not the day he joined the 5th Battalion WYR. His 1524 made me suspicious of the date you quoted. The Medal Roll for his 1914/15 Star shows he was discharged to the Class Z Reserve on 25/3/1919. Class Z was a general liability to be called up again but was abandoned in 1920 and there was no further liability thereafter. The British War and Victory Medal Roll adds nothing useful Still searching. Sorry for delay in getting back to this Edit - May be worth looking at the War Diary for the 1/5th. Not the most informative and very very unlikely to name him specifically. But will give you a bit of background. What we do not know is when he left them. Available on Ancestry or downloadable from the National Archives for £3.50 from http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7354657 Sadly his service papers do not appear to have survived. I assume he did not re-enlist after the war. Struggling to find his MSM in the London Gazette as did another contributor. If it was in that Gazette it was a Kings Birthday Honour. So probably not for a specific action more likely for general outstanding service. I had never heard of airline section but this thread explains it very well. What we do not know is which corps signal company he was in Edited 26 November , 2018 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithmroberts Posted 26 November , 2018 Share Posted 26 November , 2018 Motor airline companies were basically rigging telephone lines along lines of communications, where generally they could be fixed above ground. I'm not sure of the size, but each company would have several crews, each with its own motor transport. A friend's grandfather was in one such in Macedonia. Where they fitted in the command structure I don't know. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil williams Posted 27 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 27 November , 2018 On 09/11/2018 at 10:59, Mark1959 said: Welcome Neil! Given the details you have provided I assume you know his army number(s). If so, could you provide. Given the common name there are a few possibles Thanks Mark He did land in France 3 Sept 1915 but do not have a date when joined 5th WYR -have the book- but does not say Have you any ideas please Will send for war diary as you say so thanks for that Regarding MSM i have the book with awards in-he appears on V1 1919 page 236 -998 london gazette Sgt A Williams Hope that helps To answer your other point- He served in L corps signal company 11 corps and 27 motor airline section Grateful for any further news Neil 27.nov 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 29 November , 2018 Share Posted 29 November , 2018 Neil On holiday at the moment. Only on my tablet. So will dig further when I get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavster1980 Posted 29 November , 2018 Share Posted 29 November , 2018 Hey Neil I can have a look up on ancestry as I have an account with them. What specific dates are we looking at? I also have Wyralls history so will have a look in there. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil williams Posted 29 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 29 November , 2018 Thanks Rich Trying to establish when Arthur Williams joined the 5th west yorkshire regiment-territorials- prior to sept 1915 for enlistment no 1514 Any help on Ancestry would be appreciated Cheers Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil williams Posted 6 December , 2018 Author Share Posted 6 December , 2018 On 09/11/2018 at 11:19, jonbem said: Hi and welcome I may be wrong but........ A quick google search for the Gazette entry gave me SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 3 JUNE, 1919. 6903 T3/026501 Sjt. Williams, A., 40th-T)iv. Train (Mexborough), S4/090843 Sjt. Williams, A. E., 33st Div. M.T. Coy. (Rhos). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil williams Posted 6 December , 2018 Author Share Posted 6 December , 2018 On 29/11/2018 at 17:45, Mark1959 said: Neil On holiday at the moment. Only on my tablet. So will dig further when I get home. Mark Have received War diaries Not very informative very general stuff Appreciate any news Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 6 December , 2018 Share Posted 6 December , 2018 In France until 15th Dec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil williams Posted 6 December , 2018 Author Share Posted 6 December , 2018 1 hour ago, Mark1959 said: In France until 15th Dec mark theatre of war 3 sept 1915 in France until Nov 1917-March 1918 then retrained back to France 1918 Can you advise on 15 dec date please? Neil Have written to John Sheehan of 5th WY asking about when Arthur Williams joined the 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 7 December , 2018 Admin Share Posted 7 December , 2018 Neil, Mark is on holiday in France until 15th December. Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 7 December , 2018 Share Posted 7 December , 2018 On 27/11/2018 at 19:34, neil williams said: He did land in France 3 Sept 1915 but do not have a date when joined 5th WYR -have the book- but does not say Neil Based on other surviving records for men of the 5th West Yorkshire Regiment numbered similarly to 1524 it would appear that your man enlisted at the end of January/beginning of February 1914. 1521 Attested 5th Feb. 1914 / Approved 5th Feb. 1914 1522 Attested 3rd Feb. 1914 / Approved 6th Feb. 1914 1523 Attested 6th Feb. 1914 / Approved 6th Feb. 1914 1525 Attested 29th Jan. 1914 / Approved ?? Feb. 1914 1526 Attested 29th Jan. 1914 / Approved 9th Feb. 1914 1529 Attested 12th Feb. 1914 / Approved 13th Feb. 1914 Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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