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R.A.M.C and Labour Corps/RGA (215 siege bty)


kat0202

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Hi there, 

I've been researching into my two great great grandfathers who served in WW1 and was just wondering if anyone could help me find out anything else about what they did during the war!

 

Arthur Horne (1869-1946) 128240 - we know he joined the army in 1886 (Northamptonshire Rgt), 1902 (RGA) and 1914 (Labour Corps) but we also have found a document that says he was in 215 siege battery (which formed in 1916 so means he was in RGA again for WW1 even though he signed up at Labour corps?) and also theres a medal index card from 1914-1920 that also says RGA as his regiment and Staff Sjt as his rank - slightly confusing! Does anyone know what might have happened? 

 

We've paid for a war diary from 1916-1917 for 215 siege battery which was interesting.

 

Frederick Charles Usher (1881- Unknown) 99540 - we know he was in the RAMC aged 37 in 1917 and was discharged as a casualty with a Silver war badge in 1917 (lost his leg) but not sure if we can find out anything about where he fought and may have been injured etc? 

 

If anyone has any info they can help me with it would be greatly appreciated!

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Hello kat0202, and welcome to the Forum!

 

He can't have joined the Labour Corps in 1914 as it was not formed until April 1917. He was probably transferred to it from the RGA after being wounded or falling sick. The Labour Corps consisted of men of lower medical classification.

 

Ron

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4 minutes ago, Ron Clifton said:

Hello kat0202, and welcome to the Forum!

 

He can't have joined the Labour Corps in 1914 as it was not formed until April 1917. He was probably transferred to it from the RGA after being wounded or falling sick. The Labour Corps consisted of men of lower medical classification.

 

Ron

 

Hi Ron, This is the document thats confused us then as it says Labour Corps as the Regiment at the top but 1914 as the date? or has it been changed after he may have moved? even then it originally said Northamptonshire Rgt

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I think it possible you are looking at the records for two different Arthur Hornes. I suggest you compare the personal details, age, address etc.

 

Peter

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Hi,

 

For the chap whose attestation page you posted, I think that this is the relevant part of his record.

 

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Image source: findmypast

 

It shows that he re-enlisted into the Northants in October 1914, then via a training Reserve Battalion, went to the 16/Middlesex, before being compulsorily transferred to the 337 (Home Service) Company, Labour Corps on 28th April 1917.

 

Regards

Chris

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28 minutes ago, clk said:

Hi,

 

For the chap whose attestation page you posted, I think that this is the relevant part of his record.

 

image.png.c8c12958011772d08b33d7bec7d3ff77.png

Image source: findmypast

 

It shows that he re-enlisted into the Northants in October 1914, then via a training Reserve Battalion, went to the 16/Middlesex, before being compulsorily transferred to the 337 (Home Service) Company, Labour Corps on 28th April 1917.

 

Regards

Chris

Hi chris, 

Where did you find this its very interesting?

 

Also - does this mean they changed the writing on the form a few years after he enlisted (as it says 1914)?

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Hi,

 

I posted from Findmypast, I think that you posted from Ancestry. When you view your image (Ancestry link), on the right hand side of the screen, about half way down, there is a '>' symbol. If you click on that, it will advance you through the record where you'll find it.

 

If you can access Findmypast though, I'd tend to recommend it for two reasons. The first is their image quality is better. The second is that they seem to have more relating to his pre war service than Ancestry - I might well have missed them though! TheFindmypast links are herehere, and here.

 

Regards

Chris

 

Edit:

On checking Ancestry do have pre war papers, in B&W. FMP has some in colour.

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