Neil 2242 Posted 17 November , 2018 Share Posted 17 November , 2018 Wasn't sure which section to post this in.....feel free to move if necessary. While looking through the service papers of a soldier I'm interested in, I unexpectedly came across this: I'm not at all familiar with researching such a casualty. Any pointers gratefully received. Is there an official list of air raid casualties anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 17 November , 2018 Admin Share Posted 17 November , 2018 Struggling to read most of it but if I read the date correctly as 13th June 1917 then there is this http://www.information-britain.co.uk/famdates.php?id=988 Was the casualty in London on that date? There are a couple of "reports" at TNA but nothing that indicates a list of casualties and a search of CWGC for 13/6/1917 doesn't show any civilian casualties either. Lives of First World War does have this though https://livesofthefirstworldwar.org/community/2462 and I have just found this http://www.roll-of-honour.com/NewsandReviews/LondonGermanAirRaid13June1917.html and http://www.iancastlezeppelin.co.uk/13-jun-1917/4593903795 and at the risk of overload a final site here https://wartimememoriesproject.com/greatwar/greatwar-day-by-day/viewday.php?day=13&mth=June&year=1917 Looks like there is plenty more out there, just not found a definitive casualty list, yet... Feel free to tell me I got the date wrong! Regards David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil 2242 Posted 17 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 17 November , 2018 Hi David, It is indeed 13 Jun 1917, and the family was certainly from East London. I can't see any civilian casualties on CWGC.....were they not recorded? I'll have a look now at those links you've given me, Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 17 November , 2018 Admin Share Posted 17 November , 2018 This link has more numbers but not names http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/firstworldwar/transcripts/spotlights/airraids_summary.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 17 November , 2018 Share Posted 17 November , 2018 Hi Neil /David When I first joined, I had a very similar question and the answer was that there was no definitive casualty list, so I naively took it upon myself to create one, despite being warned off. I still persist and have identified just over 1000 of the 1413 recorded civilians and servicemen killed by air raids by both Zeppelin and Gotha type bombers on UK mainland. No civilian casualties were recorded by the CWGC, it is a case of trawling very slowly through the parish records and newspaper articles, which are now slowly drying up. If I can help just send me a pm John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 17 November , 2018 Admin Share Posted 17 November , 2018 John What a task that must be! You have my admiration. Neil, a number of threads have discussed the raid before here is one example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil 2242 Posted 17 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 17 November , 2018 Thank you both. Whole new area for me,lots of reading to do. John, will pm you You may have this soldier's mother on your casualty list. If not, I'll tell you what I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Strawbridge Posted 18 November , 2018 Share Posted 18 November , 2018 She was Caroline White who, in 1911, was living with her husband, Lionel Francis White, at 3 West Street, Walthamstow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil 2242 Posted 18 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 18 November , 2018 Thanks JIm, that was my conclusion too. Good to have independent confirmation though. Now to try and discover more about the events of 13 Jun 1917 as they relate to Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil 2242 Posted 18 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 18 November , 2018 Just found a newspaper report that reveals a little (from City Coroner's proceedings) "Fatal Shopping Expedition. The husband of Caroline White, 57, said that at 10.40 she told him that she was going to do some shopping in the City. He unsuccessfully tried to stop her, as she was not very well. A police sergeant said that after the bomb dropped, he found the woman's dead body in a porchway. There was a big gash on the top of her head" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 19 November , 2018 Share Posted 19 November , 2018 Neil, is the report from the Globe - London, 15 June 1917 . Kath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil 2242 Posted 19 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 19 November , 2018 That's the one Kath. Do you know of any other reports out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 19 November , 2018 Share Posted 19 November , 2018 Sorry, No. In fact I looked yesterday, but thought the name was Waites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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