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I am looking any information on my great grandfather. I have a photocopy of his record and dont understand most if not all of it. The real problem I am having is that there is an initial name which is scored out and my great grandfathers written in. He did definately fight in the war, Gallipoli for sure. Can anyone even suggest this problem with the name. I am desperately hoping its not something sinister. any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Heather

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I think you mean the Medal Index Card, rather than any service records, where the name William Anderson has been scored out?

Can't explain the initial error but it doesn't look sinister and, where it says "Theatre of War first served in: 2b", this confims that he served in the Balkans (Gallipoli) and arrived there on 27 July 1915.

This link to the Long Long Trail tells you more about the Royal Irish Fusiliers and, by the look of it, he was in either the 5th or 6th Battalions.

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Heather

Welcome to the Forum !

There doesn't seem to be a service record surviving the Blitz of 1940. No pension record either.

The Medal Index Card seems OK. There is an address on the back of the card: 428 Ligomiel Street,Belfast. I don't know if you have seen that,may put your mind at rest that it's his card !

The letters and numbers on the card lead me to the original Medal Roll which is filed in ledger WO329/1683 page 628,there you will find which of 5 or 6 Battalion he served on landing at Gallipoli. You are in luck as I shall be at Kew tomorrow and will look in the ledger and let you know,subject to it's availability.

Both were with 10 (Irish) Division and in the same Infantry Brigade (31). This page from the Long Long Trail,at top left of this screen:

http://www.1914-1918.net/10div.htm

You will see that not only did they fight at Gallipoli,but came back to France and Flanders to see the rest of the war out.

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thank you both. its obviously is the index card. like i say i dont understand it. can you suggest any reason for the name thing? also can you explain more about what all the data means.. oh i am in luck, cant wait now to see if you can tell me anymore. My gt granda was born in 1895, i had been thinking he was too young and used a different name but knowing his date of birth rules that out.

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There's a clerk with LOTS of cards to complete and he may have lost his place in the recording of all the lists ! He at least discovered his error and rectified it,but not before he had cross-referenced the card to another one for G/Granpa ! See top of card,crossed out now !

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is there any way of finding out if he fought in france? im sitting here thinking and i have, albeit locked away, a christmas card from him to his wife back home and its either from gallipoli or im now thinkiing france???

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In the absence of a record it might be difficult to prove,but no reason to think that he changed units and didn't come back to France with 10 Division.You may have the answer in the postcard,so dig it out !!

An Absent Voters List for 1918 for his local home area may show his unit at that time,providing the AVL survived the years,a lot haven't !

There will be War Diaries which show the day-to-day actions of a Battalion,these are at Kew but take a while to read,and aren't very good at naming the ordinary soldier.

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brilliant, i know what im doing tomorrow. doing a lot of hoking in my attic!! will post all that i find

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I have found the Christmas card and it was indeed while my great granda was in France. In fact the card is dated 20th November 1918. If someone could explain how to upload an image I shall try and upload an image or two from it, lol

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Heather

If you hit the "more reply button at bottom right it, then a page will come up and bottom left attach more files, choose more files then search your folders for you photo

you want to load, you may have to downsize image somehow as you can upload up to 250KB

Hope this helps.

Walter

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being really dopey here but how do i downsize an image. ive a few id love to be able to share with you all

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Heather

David Smylie was with 5 Battalion Royal Irish Fusiliers. I have the page from the Medal Rolls and I will send it to you on receipt of your e-mail. To do that click on my name to the left of this message and you will see a Send me a Message box at top right.

There are four War Diaries for 5 RIF. The French segment was his last war zone before the end of the war,from Jun 1918 to Jun 1919,not to say that he was there right to Jun 1919 though. Diary ref in the Kew Discovery database is WO95/1975. His first war zone was at Gallipoli,then to Salonika,then to Egypt,then to France.He will have sent the card a few days after the Armistice ending the war in Nov 1918.

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My great granda fought in the great war from 1915 until 1919.   My question however is that his medal index is under another name which was then amended in 1924.  I know my gt granda was a docker in belfast, could this have been a reserved occupation so he initially gave a different name???    Hope that makes sense.  Thanks in advance. 

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Looking at Heather's previous thread

The MIC is

 

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In fact it was an alias. If you go to the actual medal roll you get

 

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This gets us no closer to seeing why he used an alias.

 

Does Heather have his date of birth and also his mother's maiden name to try to dig more?

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I have merged the two threads 

Michelle 

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