Terry_Reeves Posted 2 April , 2021 Share Posted 2 April , 2021 On 24/03/2021 at 18:52, Pat Atkins said: List posted today (24th March 2021): 305383 Pte Haslam, C, 2/8th Sherwood Foresters is in fact Cecil Heslam, and has a MIC and Medal rolls entry (BW&VM) in that name. 512389 Spr Sadler, R is in fact James Russell Sadler (he seems to have habitually used Russell as a first name). He has a fair few papers on FMP, though many are damaged. He was a carpenter from Falmouth and enlisted aged 21 into 3rd Works Company, Cornwall (Fortress) RE on 7th December 1914. His original Territorial Force service number was 741; 512389 will be his number after the 1917 renumbering of the TF. He served with the BEF from 3rd October 1915, spending a week in hospital in May 1916 with a septic left foot. His hospitalisation in December 1917 led to him being treated in the UK; he was discharged on 23rd March 1918 "wound healed" and was back in France at the RE Base Depot on 20th May 1918, joining 427 Field Company on 8th June 1918 and quickly injuring himself on a loose duckboard (sprained ankle, found not culpable for injury) which sent him briefly to hospital again. Sapper Sadler was returned to the UK on 23rd January 1919 for demobilisation (Group 30) on 12th February. Reinforcement Company? Sounds plausible, but - can't find any reference to such a thing existing... Sorry... Pat There were 13 RE Reinforcement Companies, the first being formed in January 1917. This was in response to the shortage of tradesmen caused principally by recruiting in the early years of the war when not much consideration was given to future infrastructure projects in the BEF and, of course, the formation of new infantry battalions was paramount. These units were raised by sending men from the RE Base Depot in small parties where they would work on projects in an allocated Army area until such time as they received notice to send them to their allocated unit. It was only intended to be a temporary measure and they were disbanded before the end of the year TR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 2 April , 2021 Share Posted 2 April , 2021 That's very interesting, thanks Terry, had no idea. The Army seems to have been getting to grips with its expanded organisation in 1917. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 2 April , 2021 Share Posted 2 April , 2021 In the list posted today, 43059 Pte H. Day has some papers on Ancestry (also some on FMP, but Ancestry include these). Harold Day was a hosiery warehouseman from Bowers Avenue, Woodborough, Nottingham and attested 7/12/1915 aged 18 years and 11 months. He had 3 service numbers during his military career: 42935 (19th Sherwood Foresters), 43059 (10th Royal Irish Rifles) and M/377772 (ASC Mechanical Transport).His service was: 14/4/1916 mobilised 17/4/1916 posted to 19th Sherwood Foresters 24/7/1916 posted to 11th Sherwood Foresters in France 8/8/1917 transferred to 10th Royal Irish Rifles 17/12/1917 hospitalised and evacuated to UK, where he was in hospital for 49 days with trench feet 15/2/1918 posted 17th Royal Irish Rifles 2/3/1918 transferred to Army Service Corps (MT) as learner driver 8/3/1918 passed B2 'fit for overseas' 16/5/1918 heavy lorry driver 14/11/1919 discharged to Class Z Reserve from 18 GHQ MT Coy, ASC His records state he served 19 months in the infantry and 17 months as a lorry driver in France, Belgium and Germany (in the army of occupation). He made a disability claim for 'bad legs' as a result of heavy marching and trench feet, December 1917; examined at 31 CCS Cologne, his claim was turned down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 2 April , 2021 Share Posted 2 April , 2021 (edited) From today's list: 17112 L/Sgt E. Frost of 1st Bn Royal Scots Fusiliers has a few papers on FMP. His forename was Edward, and he seems to have had 2 RSF service numbers: 17112 and 61254. His medal rolls entries for the 1914-15 Star and BW&V Medals use this latter number, and I postulate (but this is really just a guess) that he served originally as 17112, returned to the UK with this injury and served subsequently with 201st Infantry Battalion of the Training Reserve with the number TR/2/92081 (stated in his FMP papers) and was then for some reason renumbered on returning to 1st Bn RSF. His records don't say a lot about his service generally but they do, unusually, explain his injury" "ripped open leg on enemy wire whilst on a night raid" - a look at the War Diary (available from The National Archives or via Ancestry) for 1st RSF might well be instructive. 31/1/1915 enlisted 7/7/1915 to BEF with 1st RSF 17/12/1917 hospitalised and evacuated to UK; 151 days in various hospitals 28/8/1918 returned to duty 12/1/1919 demobilised Edit: on reflection, I don't like the look of that TR number, but as it's an area I know nothing about I can't think currently of a better scenario! Edited 3 April , 2021 by Pat Atkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 2 April , 2021 Share Posted 2 April , 2021 From today's list: 351627 Pte Bell, T, Labour Corps has discharge papers on FMP and Silver War Badge entry on Ancestry. His name was Thomas Bell and he had been a coal miner; his address was 39 Oswin Avenue, Forrest Hall, near Newcastle, and he was 22 when discharged as permanently unfit (KR para 392 xvi) in June 1918. He had a curvature of the spine, not attributable to his military service, and his papers rather baldly state that on discharge he was 'no use as a soldier'. 27/2/1916 attested 1/8/1917 mobilised 3/8/1917 posted to 89th Training Reserve Bn, service number 79127 4/9/1917 transferred to 297th Reserve Labour Company, Labour Corps 7/10/1917 with BEF, 106th Labour Company 1/12/1917 reports sick (DAH) 18/12/1917 evacuated to UK for hospitalisation 29/1/1918 I think he was discharged, having been cured of his bronchitis 26/2/1918 back in hospital, bronchitis 20/4/1918 discharged from hospital to furlough 23/6/1918 discharged to Class W Army Reserve, unfit, from Eastern Command, Labour Corps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 2 April , 2021 Share Posted 2 April , 2021 From today's list: 590867 Rfn E.C. Binnington, 18th London Regiment (London Irish Rifles). He appears to be 2620 Rfn Edward C. Binnington, who was awarded the 1914-15 Star, joining the BEF in France on 10/3/1915. I'm guessing the 6-digit number was allocated to Rfn Binnington with the London Irish on the occasion of the early-1917 renumbering of the Territorial Force. He was transferred, along with other London Irish men, to the King's Royal Rifle Corps and allotted the number 56534, which is what's given on his BW&VMedal rolls entry along with his previous service with London Irish. There is some uncertainty about that 6-digit number though. FMP has a medical record from 139th Field Ambulance - the admission on 19/4/1918 of 505276 Rfn Binnington, E.C. of 18th Bn King's Royal Rifle Corps. His age is 34, and 590867 Rfn Binnington, E.C. was recorded as aged 33 in Dec 1917. I'm guessing this is the same man, and one(or both) of those 6-digit numbers are wrongly transcribed; this is, I think, plausible - but not proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 2 April , 2021 Share Posted 2 April , 2021 From today's list: 280236 Cpl Button, T.E., RGA is in fact Gunner Tutton. He was Cpl Thomas Edward Tutton, RGA; his medal index card and 1914-15 Star entry only gives the service number SR/5236 (with or without SR/ prefix), but a pension card on Ancestry and the BW&V Medal rolls entry give both numbers 5236 & 280236. His BW&V Medal rolls entry has been amended: Cpl Gnr. He seems to have joined the BEF in France on6/6/1915 or 6/11/1915 (there's discrepancy between the medal index card and the medal rolls). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 3 April , 2021 Author Share Posted 3 April , 2021 Thank you, Pat. All of these corrections are so important [and brings their names to the fore]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 19 April , 2021 Author Share Posted 19 April , 2021 Index No Regt/Bn/Corps Sqdn/Bty/Co Regtl No Rank/Name Diseases/Wounds/Injuries Admission Discharge Entrained Detrained Ward P T 7942 4 Seaforth B 203741 Pte Ross, P Corneal Ulcer L 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais T 7943 2/4 R Scots A 200259 Pte Aitken, T L Debility 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais T 7944 18 London HQ 590085 Rfn Slater, F Debility 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais T 7945 1 E Lancs D 24917 Pte Deardon, J Contus: Eyeball R 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais T 7946 M G Coy 182 67400 Pte Platten, R J Whitlow Thumb R 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais T 7947 1/9 K L Reg D 332618 Pte Wharton, J Blepharitis 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais T 7948 2/4 York & Lancs B 201385 L/Cpl Cooke, W Carbuncles Back 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais T 7949 8/9 R Dub Fus B 22156 Pte Murphy, A PUO 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais T 7950 10 Queens Reg BLANK S/60284 Pte Crane, F Chr: Bronchitis 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais T 7951 1/6 B Watch A 201494 Pte Carruthers, J Keratitis Profunda 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais T 7952 2 R Scots Fus C 10241 L/Cpl Riches, G Bullet: Arm L 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais T 7953 16 Middx B 10657 Cpl Turner, H GSW Eye L 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais T 7954 HAC att GHQ 9518 Pte Ifield, H E Neurasthenia 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais T 7955 9 Welsh HQ 63074 Pte Jeans, A E Epilepsy 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais T 7956 EFC ASC att Mineral Water Factory 6855 Pte Foster, A Myalgia 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais T 7957 1 N Fus W 459 Sgt Lawrence, A T PUO 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais T 7958 RFA D/152 Bde 36056 Bdr Fit Bridson, T S Debility 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais T 7959 2/5 S Staffs B 242673 Pte Feakes, J T Dermatitis Seborrhoea 17/12/17 17/12/17 Etaples Calais Ward E Trip No 170 46758 13 R Fus 3 6578 L/Cpl Barker, W J Bronchitis 19/12/17 19/12/17 Trois Arbres Wimereux 46759 RE 175 Tunn 175851 Spr Morrell, F GSW Leg R 19/12/17 19/12/17 Trois Arbres Wimereux Ward M 46760 1 N & D BLANK 72654 Pte Smith, A Trench Fever 19/12/17 19/12/17 Trois Arbres Wimereux 46761 1/5 D W W Rid BLANK 26669 Pte Lofting, A ? Nephritis 19/12/17 19/12/17 Trois Arbres Wimereux 46762 13 R B att 130 Mobile W’shop 31648 Pte Brown, W Piles 19/12/17 19/12/17 Trois Arbres Wimereux Ward N 46763 M G Coy 3 3793 Pte Allen, C E Appendicitis [ALL STRUCK OUT] 19/12/17 19/12/17 Trois Arbres Wimereux 46764 6 DCLI Z 29627 L/Cpl Stevens, S Follicular Tonsillitis 19/12/17 19/12/17 Trois Arbres Wimereux Ward O 46765 RE 334 R C Co 260715 Pte Simpson, A PUO 19/12/17 19/12/17 Trois Arbres Wimereux 46766 ASC MT att 355 Batt 199449 Dvr Cameron, J Otitis 19/12/17 19/12/17 Trois Arbres Wimereux 46767 ASC MT att 51 Group 201443 Pte Knight, S TB Glands of Neck 19/12/17 19/12/17 Trois Arbres Wimereux 46768 ASC MT att 2 A CCS 10 Dvr Barnes, J W Rheumatism 19/12/17 19/12/17 Trois Arbres Wimereux 46769 RGA 29 Siege 101292 Cpl Chipperfield, H Injury to Knee 19/12/17 19/12/17 Trois Arbres Wimereux 46770 7 KRR 14 ? ? Batt 204276 Rfn Bennett, A F Hernia 19/12/17 19/12/17 Trois Arbres Wimereux 46771 RGA 405 Siege 26762 Sgt Nicholls, G Laryngitis 19/12/17 19/12/17 Trois Arbres Wimereux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 21 April , 2021 Share Posted 21 April , 2021 Well, I've got nowhere with this one! A. Lofting is niggling me, can't find him or anyone who might be him. Sure I'm missing something. His 1/5th West Riding Regiment number 26669 is missing on the medal rolls out of a sequence of men who moved from an infantry battalion to the Labour Corps and then to WRR. All show 1/5th and then 1/6th WRR in a (possible) chronology e.g. 26668 Pte Camlen E.C. 23119 10/R. Berks 94232 158 Labour Corps 26668 1/5 WRR 1/6 WRR The original unit varies as does the Labour Company, but the battalion-LC-1/5 WRR-1/6 WRR sequence is identical for numbers 26660-26673. There is no entry for the numbers 26666 and 26669. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 22 April , 2021 Author Share Posted 22 April , 2021 I thought there may be trouble with so many missing MICs on my first run-through but it just shows how spoilt we've become with TNA/FMP/Ancestry files to dip into whenever we want and, mainly, find what we are looking for. Thanks for having a go, Pat. Appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 26 April , 2021 Share Posted 26 April , 2021 (edited) So, the back catalogue... From list posted 09 May 2020: 266036 Dvr F. Newton, 2/1st Bucks. This is Pte Frederick Newton. 2/1st Bn Ox & Bucks were disbanded on 22/2/1918 and the officers and men transferred en masse to form 25th Entrenching Battalion; shortly afterwards, a draft of 200 men went to 8th Bn Royal Berkshire Regt, and Pte Newton was with them. He was renumbered on arrival as 220509, and his entry for the British War & Victory Medals is on the Berkshires roll under this number. Edit, the next man on this list followed a path from OBLI to RBR; however, according to his BW&VM rolls entry his route was slightly different: 265881 Pte A.G. White, 2/1st Bucks - 220380 Pte Albert G. White, 1st Bn Royal Berkshire Regt, also 2nd Bn RBR. Edited 27 April , 2021 by Pat Atkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 27 April , 2021 Author Share Posted 27 April , 2021 Ah, lovely. Another SN and confirming details. Thanks so much, Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 27 April , 2021 Share Posted 27 April , 2021 (edited) From the list dated 9th May 2020: 1538 Pte T. Ward, 62 Labour Company. I can't find his medal details or anything else, except FMP has his name and LC number on List HA 18180 dated 2nd January 1918, under the Cork Record Office; it states 'late South Irish Horse". His Labour Corps number was in a batch allocated on formation of the Labour Companies to what had been the 14th (Labour) Bn Scottish Rifles; 62 Labour Company was formed from the Cheshire Regt and had a different number block. Couldn't find a way to use any of this info to find T. White - but maybe someone else will. From the same list: 317S Gnr Robert Holloway, RMA has a single page of service record on FMP under this name and service number; can't find him in the medal rolls, etc., however. He enlisted 1st January 1915, served in No1 Gun Howitzer Brigade in France, and survived the war (demobilised Feb 1919). He was born 1895 and came from Bolsover, Derbyshire. Edited 27 April , 2021 by Pat Atkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 28 April , 2021 Author Share Posted 28 April , 2021 Fantastic, Pat; thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 29 April , 2021 Share Posted 29 April , 2021 No worries, Diane, it's a pleasure. From the list posted 30th April 2020: 41582 Rfn Smith, C, 11th R. Irish R. is Charles Smith, Royal Irish Rifles; Ancestry has his British War & Victory Medals rolls entry under his full service number 11/41582 (11 as in 11th Bn RIR), and states that he had previously been in 6th Northamptonshire Regt with the number 30271. A search in FMP using this regiment and number turned up his MIC, whereas I had previously got nothing other than the 31 AT record using his RIR number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 29 April , 2021 Author Share Posted 29 April , 2021 No wonder I couldn't find his MIC on TNA as they have transcribed it as 11/47582. Still can't locate it on Ancestry to have a proper look though. Brilliant; thanks Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 29 April , 2021 Share Posted 29 April , 2021 (edited) I couldn't get him at first using the number with or without 11/ prefix in Ancestry's search, and now - annoyingly - can't remember what I did which was successful. From the list posted 24th April 2020: 271055 (William)WHC Rogers, 1st/8th Royal Scots has a MIC and medal rolls entries on Ancestry and FMP, but searching with this number doesn't turn anything up. His medals entries give him as 2454, 19th London Regt; 610281 Royal Engineers; 345277 8th Royal Scots. His other RS number is a mystery to me, I'm afraid. Because of his initials and 8th Royal Scots I'm pretty confident this is the man, just can't explain the 271055 number. 203091 (Francis) F Turrell, 2/6 Royal Warwickshires, has several pages of documents in FMP but a semi-legible scrawl in the original led to them being transcribed with a final 8 rather than 1. I think his military journey was: Attested 7/12/1915, a 32-year-old wood machinist born in Aston; joined Royal Warwicks (possibly 5th Reserve Bn) 24/5/1916 Served in France 7/10/1916 - 14/1/1917 with 5th RWR (seems to say 2/5th RWR, with the number 20207) " " " late April 1917 - 14/3/1917 2/6th Bn RWR 19/3/1918 Home service 945 AE Artizan Company, Labour Corps, with number 473000 1919 transferred to 242 Artisan Works Company, Royal Engineers, with number 364017 Yet another service number is noted on one document, but without giving the unit: 19159. No idea, I'm afraid. Edited 30 April , 2021 by Pat Atkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 29 April , 2021 Share Posted 29 April , 2021 (edited) From list posted 20th April 2020: 204682 Pte W Gray, 7th Seaforth Highlanders - this is William Gray from Glasgow. His service number was 204684; he has a medal index card and a British War & Victory Medals rolls entry under this number. Sadly, William Gray died on 20/07/1918, aged just 20, and is commemorated on Ploegsteert Memorial: he has no known grave. 7th SH were involved in an attack on the 19th and it is conceivable he was wounded then. The battalion War Diary (available from The National Archives here, and also via Ancestry) doesn't name Other Ranks, so it's impossible to tell. From same list: 47890 Pte Wright, N. Labour Corps is Norman Wright who has medal entries on Ancestry and FMP and a Silver War Badge rolls entry also. He joined the King's Liverpool Regiment on 14/3/1916, served in a KLR Labour battalion, and was discharged unfit on 30/5/1918, aged 23. I think the 'Labour battalions' of KLR were 23rd and 27th Bns, which became 1st and 2nd Labour Companies on the formation of the Labour Corps; however, Norman Wright's LC number wasn't allocated at that time by either LC on their formation according to the LLT here. The British War & Victory Medals roll entry shows a large number of KLR men like Norman who are consecutively numbered, so he transferred as part of a large draft. Edited 30 April , 2021 by Pat Atkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 30 April , 2021 Author Share Posted 30 April , 2021 Outstanding, Pat. Wonderful stuff. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 30 April , 2021 Author Share Posted 30 April , 2021 Index No Regt/Bn/Corps Sqdn/Bty/Co Regtl No Rank/Name Diseases/Wounds/Injuries Admission Discharge Entrained Detrained Ward S 46772 ASC MT att RE 177 Tunn Co 148077 Pte Williams, E Clinical [Dysentery] 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46773 M G Coy 112 55830 Dvr Castle, H Clinical [Dysentery] 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46774 ASC MT att 66 Aux Petrol Coy 283552 Pte Walker, P W Clinical [Dysentery] 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46775 13 R B HQ 5281 Rfn Gallop, J J Clinical [Dysentery] 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46776 10 R Warwicks BLANK 25877 Pte Wellard, A Clinical [Dysentery] 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46777 8 Somersets A 15193 Cpl Warburton, E Clinical [Dysentery] 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46778 8 Somersets A 28831 Pte Thomas, W Clinical [Dysentery] 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46779 17 Manchrs A 42126 Pte Bryson, H Clinical [Dysentery] 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46780 10 R Warks att 9 Corps Rein Camp 25769 L/Cpl Shute, G Clinical [Dysentery] 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46781 Lab Coy 193 421389 Pte O’Brien, J Clinical [Dysentery] 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46782 10 R Warks att 9 Corps Rein Camp 27219 Pte Symonds, R C Clinical [Dysentery] 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46783 RAMC 96 F Amb 31823 Pte Hoyle, G P Clinical [Dysentery] 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46784 9 Welsh att 9 Corps Rein Camp 202732 Pte Davies, J L Clinical [Dysentery] 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46785 8 Somersets C 28407 Pte Harris, J E Dysentery [Flexner] 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46786 8 Lincs att 9 Corps Rein Camp 38271 L/Cpl Dickinson, T E Clinical Dysentery 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46787 18 K Liver Rgt C 300569 Pte Highcock, P Clinical Dysentery 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux Ward B 46788 2 R B B 4292 Cpl Evans, G Bomb Wd: Thigh R Hand R Leg R Frac: Tib [Amp] 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46789 9 Cyclist Corps 1 1023 L/Cpl Hoppitt, H VDH 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46790 RE 9 Sigs 161792 Cpl Matthews, W R PUO 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux Ward C 46791 RGA 353 SB 166872 Gnr Blacker, F Trench Fever 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46792 RGA 77 SB 164660 Gnr Cooper, W G PUO 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46793 Lab Coy 12 6781 Pte Fleming, J Tonsillitis 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46794 2 R S Fus D 34983 Pte Findlay, W Bull Wd: Forearm L ? Frac 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46795 2 R S Fus A 19640 Pte McCallum, A Chron: Bronchitis 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46796 RFA B/87 Bde 12353 Bdr Taylor, J Pleurisy 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46797 13 KRRC A 37731 Rfn James, G Trench Feet 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46798 6 Bedfords B 26781 Pte Pratt, A W SW Knee L Foot L Knee R Arm R Neck 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46799 13 KRRC B 39407 Rfn Pettit, R J Bull Wd: Leg L Synov Knee L 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46800 RE 153 Fd Coy 100655 Spr Mitchell, J Trench Fever 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46801 13 KRRC D R/31257 L/Cpl Bloss, G S Trench Feet 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46802 19 Manch Rgt D 15199 Pte Pound, H J Shell Wd: Buttock R Leg L 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46803 2 Yorks D 9423 Pte McCabe, M SW Back & Buttock L 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux 46804 8 Somersets C 28429 Pte Leaver, G Pleurisy 19/12/17 19/12/17 Bailleul Wimereux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 5 May , 2021 Share Posted 5 May , 2021 From Friday's list: 15199 Pte Pound, H.J. 19th Manchester Regiment. This is Harold John Pound, and he has a medal index card and British War & Victory Medals rolls entry under his later regiment and service number: 69614 8th Bn Royal West Surreys. He also has quite a few surviving pages of service record on FMP; a synopsis of his service is: Enlisted 7/11/1916 and then joined TR Bn 51st Manchester Regiment on 21/2/1917 aged 17 years and 364 days. He gave his occupation as timber haulier. He moved to 229th Infantry Bn, and thence to 51st (Graduated) Bn Manchester Regiment. He landed in France 2/12/1917 and joined 19th Manchesters soon afterwards. He was wounded by shrapnel in the right buttock and left knee almost immediately (about two weeks after arriving in France). Harold Pound returned to the Western Front after recovering from his wounds, first with 22nd Manchesters with a new service number 61132. He was part of a draft of men from this battalion to join 8th Bn Royal West Surreys, receiving the service number 69614. He was gassed on 15/10/1918 but recovered and served in the army of occupation after the Armistice, being transferred from 11th RWS to Class Z Reserve on 26/10/1919 - still some 4 months shy of his 21st birthday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 5 May , 2021 Share Posted 5 May , 2021 (edited) From the list posted 12th April 2020. 305270 Pte Mosedale, D. 2/8th Royal Warwickshire Regiment has a medal index card and British War & Victory Medals rolls entry under his Machine Gun Corps number of 157434. The medal rolls entry gives his original 2/8 RWR number as 2072 - the 6-digit RWR number is the one he was allocated in the renumbering of the Territorial Force in early 1917. Edited 5 May , 2021 by Pat Atkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 5 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 5 May , 2021 Remarkable details for above posts and exceptional researching skills shown. Thanks, Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 5 May , 2021 Share Posted 5 May , 2021 Fortunately, little expertise required - just a bit of spare time, of which I have a fair amount at the moment Diane. And anyway, it's a genuine pleasure. From the list posted 10th April 2020: 339187 Pte J. Brennan RAMC. This is Joseph A. Brennan of 3/2nd West Lancashire Field Ambulance; there is a pension record on Ancestry and FMP (plus an additional hospital record on FMP) searchable with his 6-digit service number. According to FMP's hospital record he was treated in France in August 1917 (No18 General Hospital) for inflamed tonsils; at this time his age was noted as 38, and he had 3 years service, and 7 months with the field force - this roughly fits the 57th (2nd West Lancs) Division arrival in France, of which 3/2nd FR was part. This would fit his medal entitlement (no Star for service overseas prior to 1916). The pension record gives a date of enlistment of 16/8/1914 and date of birth 1881 (I suspect he massaged his age by 3 years: later in this record his d.o.b. is given as 1879); he was disembodied 26/2/1919. His occupation on enlistment was sick berth attendant. His pension records relate to chronic bronchitis from 'exposure on active service'; in fact, being gassed - he was in hospital for this from 25/3/1918, which strongly suggests he was a victim of the German Spring Offensive which used gas extensively on both the frontlines and the back areas. The last date on his records I could see was 14/5/1923; the records were stamped DECEASED sometime after this date. The only other Joseph A. Brennan RAMC I could find has a medal card and rolls entry (British War & Victory Medals) under the number 1549, which is an original Territorial force number; I suspect this may be our man (middle name Andrew) prior to the early-1917 renumbering of the TF. Alas, I can't find anything to prove it either way, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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