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Index No

Regt/Bn/Corps

Sqdn/Bty/Co

Regtl No

Rank/Name

Diseases/

Wounds/Injuries

Admission

Discharge

Entrained

Detrained

21389

1/3 London

C

4691

Pte Price, M

Diarrhoea

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21390

9 London

C

6486

Pte Leon, C

Influenza

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21391

RFA

B

57707

Cpl Moore, C

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21392

RE

285

107752

Spr Mills, F

Tonsillitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21393

13 Lond

HQ

2800

Pte Coles, V

ICT toe R

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21394

8 Somerset

C

29977

Pte Tann, J

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21395

5 Lon

C

2820

L/Cpl Munden, W

Ac bronchitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21396

RFA

52

21015

Bdr Haldenby, G

Syn knee R

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21397

13 R Fus

3

24213

Pte Frew, E

Trench feet

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21398

9 Lond

D

4637

Rfn Stiles, G

GSW thigh L

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21399

8 Lincoln

C

40844

Pte Preston, J

Nephritis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21400

12 Lond

D

6530

Pte Poyntz, A

Trench feet

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21401

12 Lond

C

4662

Pte Seeley, A

GSW both shldrs

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21402

RFA

123

124746

Gnr Harrod, J

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21403

13 Lond

A

5517

Pte Bailey, C

GSW shldr L

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21404

13 R Fus

2

214059

Pte Horton, G

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21405

14 Lond

D

5752

Pte Daniels, W

Diarrhoea

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21406

2 KOSB

B

25524

Pte Wilson, R

Lac hand L

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21407

5 Lond

A

10060

Rfn Horton, J

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21408

14 Lond

A

6548

Pte Gledhill, H

Diarrhoea

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

Ward D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

21409

7 Middx

D

2753

Pte Higham, J E

ICT feet

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21410

1/13 Lond

C

6274

Pte Laker, E H

GSW leg L

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21411

4 Lond

D

7218

Pte Graig, G

GSW contusion of side

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21412

1/14 Lond

B

6275

Pte Bullivant, H H

Trench feet

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21413

13 R B

A

27419

L/Cpl Kirby, F H

Rheumatism

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21414

1 Lond

C

1644

Pte Mahoney, P

Trench feet

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21415

10 LNL

D

25344

Pte Conboy, P

Albuminuria

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21416

8 E Lancs

A

36978

Pte Emmott, W

NYD & vomiting

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21417

8 E Lancs

B

34150

Pte Douglas, R

Albuminuria

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21418

1 Leicest

B

7989

Pte Wain, J W

Bronchitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

 

 

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On 29/11/2018 at 12:40, Bardess said:

I'm really unsure where the information came from, whether it was orally from the patient or a written chart for each individual from the medic. Either way it's great that most of them have been found and thanks for your continued support

I'm assuming that however the man breaks into the medical chain of evacuation there will be some scope for human error on the paperwork. Also, even after several decades of compulsory education, illiteracy rates were still significant amongst the men being drawn into the armed forces. So lots of scope for "garbage in, garbage out".

 

Going back to the names on the list.

 

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Private 19/1839 E Tebay, West Yorkshire Regiment – at first glance it seems this is probably 15/1939 Ernest Tebay, West Yorkshire Regiment. His card is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/19/186661.

However the MiC says he was discharged medically unfit on the 29th December 1916. So unless either someone else used his name or the date on the MiC is incorrect then that would appear to rule him out.

 

Private 10589 W Mathers, Royal Field Artillery – possibly Gunner 11587 William Mathers, Royal Field Artillery. MiC held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/13/167445

First landed in France on the 5th October 1915. He qualified for the 1915 Star, the Victory Medal and the British War Medal.

 

Private 6464 H E Roberts, London Regiment – may be a total co-incidence but there is a MiC held at the National Archive under reference number WO 372/17/24432 for a Private 6462 Hubert Roberts, The Queen’s Regiment who would also serve with the 19th Battalion London Regiment. The MiC gives no clues as to the order in which he served, not even which regiment issued his Victory Medal and British War Medal. My logic for considering him being that this man suffered gun shot injuries to his mouth and nose and so might have had trouble speaking. If he still had his old unit details on him, like an old I.D. tag, or shoulder titles, depending on which way round he served with those regiments, then the two sets of details may have been conflated as the medical clerks searched for details of who he was.

 

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Bombardier 85257 P Byrne, Royal Field Artillery – worth considering is Acting-Bombardier 88275 Percy M Byrne, Royal Field Artillery. MiC held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/3/227483

He first landed in France on the 14th October 1915 but that MiC only shows him being issued with the 1915 Star. His Victory Medal and British War Medal are on a separate MiC,WO 372/3/148364, but his rank then is shown as Gunner.

 

Private 21035 W Watson, Warwickshire Regiment – possibly Private 21055 Walter Watson, Royal Warwickshire Regiment. The catalogue entry for his MiC at the National Archive has him as “2105” Walter Watson and their preview scan attached to the catalogue shows a fifth digit that is lost into the blackening at the edge of the image. However via my free account on Ancestry I can see it is definitely 21055.

He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal.

 

Private 7026 A Kearsey, London Regiment  – possibly worth considering is Private 7026 John Kenealy, 18th London Regiment. He would also serve as 4703 13th London Regiment. His MiC is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/11/130369

He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal.

 

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Private 4691 M Price, London Regiment  - possibly 4691 Matthew Paice, 3rd London Regiment. He was also Private 265423 East Kent Regiment – the MiC does not give a clue as to which order or which regiment issued the medals.  

His MiC is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/15/92274

He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal.

 

Private 6530 A Poyntz, London Regiment  - probably the soldier whose MiC is shown as Private 493321 London Regiment in the name of Albert William Poyntz. Reference in the catalogue is WO 372/16/67667. His unit is shown as 13th London Regiment, he enlisted on the 12th December 1915 and was discharged on the 6th September 1917 as no longer physically fit for service.

He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. He was also issued with the Silver War Badge.

The potential link to the man on the 31st Ambulance Train is on the card itself. Above the space for the Regimental Number is written “6520” preceded by a “X”. I believe the X relates to the fact that the medals were issued with this service number rather than the 493321 one.

Poyntz is indexed on both the National Archive site and Ancestry with just the regimental number 493321.

(Card attached)

 

Private 5517 C Bailey, London Regiment  - virtually the same story as Private Poyntz above. He is probably Private 492450 Charles William Bailey, 13th London Regiment whose MiC is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/1/175950

His unit is shown as 13th London Regiment, he enlisted on the 12th December 1915 and was discharged on the 26th December 1917 for a reason I don’t readily recognise.

He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. He was also issued with the Silver War Badge.

Again the link is what’s shown on the card. Above the space for the Regimental Number is written “5517” preceded by a “X”.

While the National Archive only indexes him as 492450, Ancestry indexes him with both.

(Card attached)

 

Private 214059 G Horton, Royal Fusiliers – possibly Private 24059 George W Horton whose Medal Index Card is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/10/48320

He would go on to be Private 308377 Tank Corps.

He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal which appear to have been issued by the Tank Corps.

 

Private 25524 R Wilson, Kings Own Scottish Borderers – possibly Private 25527 Robert Wilson, King’s Own Scottish Borderers whose MiC is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/22/10898

He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal.

 

Private 6274 E H Laker, London Regiment

 

I wonder if the details for Laker and “Graig” have become mixed up, if only because there is a Medal Index Card for a Private 7828 Ernest H Laker, 13th London Regiment which is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/11/223178

He also served with Regimental number 493753 in the same unit.

He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal.

 

Private 6275 H H Bullivant, London Regiment  - one to consider is a Private Hubert H Bullivant who served in the 14th London Regiment before transferring to the R.A.F. The ony service number shown for his time with the London Regiment is 512456 but as his medals were issued by the RAF, service number 318460, they may not have shown earlier service numbers on his MiC.

The card itself is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/3/165631

He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal.

As a quick check I had a look at a few of the  service numbers surrounding 512456. Most drew a blank on MiC’s

512455 14th London had previously been 6274 14th London. (Alexander R.Arnott)

512458 14th London (Montague Ewing)

512460 14th London had previously been 6280 14th London. (Murray Hamiliton).

512461 London had previously been 6281 London. (Indexed at the National Archive only as “Hearse” – there is a thumb on the scan which obscures the relevant details, although his unit is definitely the 14th. Ancestry has first names as Arthur S.)

Given the way the renumbering has been applied in the 14th Battalion I would have to say that Hubert Bullivant has to be a serious contender for the man on the train.

 

Hope that helps,

Peter

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Thanks, Peter, and I hope it helps those looking for rellies in the future. Only 4 more pages to go

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Apologies - forget to attach those MiCs in my haste to get to the dinner table :-)

 

 

Albert William Poyntz Medal Index Card sourced Ancestry.jpg

Charles William Bailey Medal Index Card sourced Ancestry.jpg

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Index No

Regt/Bn/Corps

Sqdn/Bty/Co

Regtl No

Rank/Name

Diseases/

Wounds/Injuries

Admission

Discharge

Entrained

Detrained

21419

ASC

491 Coy

223662

Pte Belwood, A

Pleurisy

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21420

1/13 Lond

C

4892

Pte Turbutt, F A

GSW ankle R

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21421

AOC

 

1035

S/Sgt Irwin, G

Inf stomach

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21422

13 KRR

D

5229

Rfn Watkins, C

Synov knee

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21423

2 N & D

D

50019

Pte Massey, J

Laryngitis tonsillitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21424

1 Devons

5

38056

Pte Facer, A

Supp : inflam

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21425

10 R Fus

B

52119

Pte Schule, F

ICT arm, PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21426

9 Norfolks

A

15385

Pte Seaman, F

Asthma

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21427

RFA

15 Bde

1893

Dvr Gillard, P

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21428

1 Devon

B

6815

Pte Ward, R F

Buried week ago in mine explosion

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21429

7 Northants

C

17658

Pte Pond, W

Pharyngitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21430

3 R B

D

23766

Pte Monger, F

Pyrexia NYD

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21431

1 DCLI

C

18411

L/Cpl Taylor, A

Inj ankle R

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21432

2 N & D

C

70418

Pte Gregory, F

Laryngitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21433

14 R Wark

A

15/297

L/Cpl Tierney, J

Psoriasis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21434

9 Lond

B

3757

Rfn Slough, E

GSW thigh L

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21435

2 Leins

D

4948

Pte Cronin, P

Pleurisy

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21436

12 Glos

D

27348

Pte Townsend, O

Pneumonia

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21437

13 London

B

4882

Pte Dewley, G

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21438

1 N Staff

B

26612

Pte Edinborough, H W

Nephritis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21439

11 Essex

D

40586

Pte Rycraft, J

Pyrexia

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21440

RFA

56 DAC

82484

Dvr Hursthouse, W

Abscess butt

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21441

15 DLI

B

53324

Pte Jackson, S A

Bronchitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21442

8 R W K

D

4833

L/Cpl Warnett, F

Tonsillitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21443

ASC MT

ATS Col

225993

Dvr Simcox, S H

Epilepsy

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21444

1 Buffs

C

12862

Pte Willcox, C F

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21445

8 Queens

C

21892

L/Cpl Plummer, F

Bronchitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21446

MGC

167

32958

Pte Stephens, W

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21447

11 R Warks

D

20373

Pte Willis, J H

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21448

9 R Sussex

C

16617

Cpl Talbot, C A

Pleurisy

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

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Rifleman 4637 G Stiles, London Regiment . Worth considering is Private George E Stiles whose actual Medal Index Card shows him as 9th London Regiment. Although he is shown as service number 391630, his medals were actually issued by the Labour Corps, with whom he was Private 575661. As this was only a MiC, the clerks preparing the MiC’s might not have been that bothered about earlier service numbers.

MiC is held under reference WO 372/19/60403

He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. He was also issued with the Silver War Badge.

 

Private 5752 W Daniels, London Regiment. Possibly Private 5751 William S.J. Daniel, 14th London Regiment. He subsequently served with the Labour Corps as Private 353001.

MiC is held under reference WO 372/5/160439

He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal.

 

Private 1644 P Mahoney, London Regiment. Worth considering is Private Patrick Mahoney whose actual Medal Index Card shows him as 1st London Regiment. Although he is shown as service number 200236, his medals were actually issued by the Labour Corps, with whom he was Private 665837. As that looks like a Territorial Force renumbering range for his service with the London Regiment and this was only a MiC, the clerks preparing the MiC’s might not have been that bothered about earlier service numbers.

MiC is held under reference WO 372/13/84242

He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal.

 

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Private 4882 G. Dewley, London Regiment. Almost certainly Private 4882 George Bewley, 13th London Regiment. MiC held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/2/128890

He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal.

He also served with the Royal Defence Corps but it’s unclear from the MiC in what order and which issued his medals.

 

Cheers,

Peter

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Wow. Is that the closest we've come with only one outstanding? Nice one, Peter

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Page 20

Index No

Regt/Bn/Corps

Sqdn/Bty/Co

Regtl No

Rank/Name

Diseases/

Wounds/Injuries

Admission

Discharge

Entrained

Detrained

21449

1/13 Lond

C

4738

Pte Webster, C

GSW chest wall L

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21450

13 R B

C

27468

Pte Foot, J

Bronchitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21451

14 DLI

C

26841

Pte Pearce, C

Wds to eyes

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21452

13 R B

A

203295

Rfn Richards, E

Bronchitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21453

ASC MT

 

M2/

077625

Pte Dance, F M

ICT feet

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

Ward E

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

21454

2 DLI

D

45414

Pte Harrison, G

Pyrexia

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21455

11 Essex

D

16757

Pte Moore, S

Trench feet

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21456

1 Cheshires

 

25578

Drum Parry, F

Suffering from gas NYD

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21457

ASC

2 Aut Bus Coy

6804

Cpl Hedley, F C

Bronchitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21458

11 Essex

C

6543

Sgt Tye, F

GSW arm R

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21459

1 Bedfords

D

40065

Pte Messenger, E A

Trench feet

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21460

1 Buffs

B

13353

Pte Bacon, E

NYD pyrexia

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21461

2 DLI

C

23973

Sgt Clasper, G E

GSW hand L arm L & chest

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21462

1 Beds

D

43000

Pte Baxter, A W

Trench feet

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21463

1 Beds

D

32031

Pte De Gruchy, J

Trench feet

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21464

3 R B

C

587

Cpl Lowe, S

NYD pyrexia

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21465

1 Beds

D

31113

Pte Smith, S F

Trench feet

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21466

1 E Surreys att

95 TMB

10621

L/Cpl Hagger, J

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21467

RE 11 Corps

HQ Sigs

74835

Spr Gray, A

Myalgia

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21468

12 R Fus

1

22619

Pte Tippen, B

NYD pyrexia

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21469

1 R W Kents

D

6291

Pte Knowles, E

Jaundice

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21470

1 Beds

 

33363

Pte Britton, C W

Tubercle lung

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21471

1 KOSB

D

28608

Sgt Gordon, R

Trench feet

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21472

12 London

D

4256

L/Cpl Edwards, A

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21473

9 London

D

6486

Rfn Dolbin, H R

GSW head

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21474

1 Linc

C

27038

Pte Baker, G W

Pyrexia

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

21475

13 R Fus

4

16364

Pte Lawrence, F

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21476

RFC

10 Sec 2 Coy

42236

2/AM Rouse, B T

Stric urethra

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21477

12 Lond

Sig

7541

Rfn James, T

GSW thigh L [acc]

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21478

13 L Fus

HQ

22909

Pte Towers, A E

Inflam stomach

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

 

 

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Lance Corporal 4256 A. Edwards, London Regiment (12th) – one to consider is Corporal Ailwyn Lewis Edwards, 12th London Regiment. Although his card shows his regimental number as 471502, his medals were issued by the Labour Corps with whom he served as 586875. He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal and was also issued with the Silver War Badge. I took a quick look at the surrounding London Regiment numbers to see if there was a consistant renumbering.

471494 was previously 4237 12th London

471499 was previously 4250 12th London

471500 was previously 4253 12th London

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471504 was previously 4259 12th London

471505 was previously 4260 12th London (number from card not NA catalogue)

471506 was previously 4261 12th London

 

Rifleman 6486 H R Dolbin, London Regiment (9th) – probably Private 6489 Henry R. Dollin, 9th London Regiment, later renumbered 39271 in the same unit.

He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal.

 

Cheers,

Peter

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Excellent research, Peter. Many thanks

 

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Index No

Regt/Bn/Corps

Sqdn/Bty/Co

Regtl No

Rank/Name

Diseases/

Wounds/Injuries

Admission

Discharge

Entrained

Detrained

21479

RE

2/2 Lond

F Coy

3130

L/Cpl Stannard, C H

GSW thigh R

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21480

1 Leicesters

B

10662

Cpl Spicer, W

Bronch pneumonia

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

21481

TMB *

71

9787

Pte Jackson, A

Influenza

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

21482

6 Beds

A

32247

Pte Pedder, H

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21483

9 London

D

7119

Rfn Rumble, C

GSW face

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21484

11 Essex

C

33957

Pte Thompson, H S M

Gas poisoning [shell]

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21485

11 Essex

B

40924

Cpl Lawson, S

ICT arms

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21486

11 Leicesters

B

23156

Pte Mould, L

Appendicitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

21487

1 N Staffs

A

25045

Pte Chambers, A

Trench foot

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

21488

13 KRR

C

10180

Rfn Phillips, R

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21489

1 R Fus

D

15504

Pte Boyd, A

GSW thigh L

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21490

1/4 London

C

3363

L/Cpl Neame, D C

Trench feet

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21491

12 London

B

C/7365

Rfn Eason, A

Trench feet

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21492

13 London

A

6506

Pte Styles, H

GSW shldr L

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21493

12 London

C

5919

Rfn Dredge, S J

GSW arm L

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21494

RFA

126 Bde

95685

Gnr Chapman, W H

Ac bronchitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21495

12 London

 

5968

Rfn Grossmith, H R W

Myalgia

23/1/17

24/1/17

Merville

Etaples

21496

6 Beds

C

28262

Pte Shaw, F H

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21497

16 L N Lancs

B

23895

Pte Greenwood, A

Myalgia

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

Ward L

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

21498

6 Beds

A

12082

Pte Austin, A

Albuminuria

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21499

8 Linc

D

14775

Sgt Beach, D

Myalgia

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21500

RE att

1 RND

5463

Spr Cassleden, A L

Bron & DAH

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21501

11 Warw

B

11564

Pte Archer, H

Myalgia

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21502

1 DCLI

B

27412

Pte Snelgrove, W

Tonsillitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21503

6 Beds

B

32006

Sgt Lawrance, F J

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21504

MGC

110

5854

Sgt Haigh, V

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21505

15 Warw

B

1644

Cpl Thompson, R

Bronchitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21506

RFC

25 Sq

5937

2/AM Fry, B

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

21507

7 Leicesters

B

36057

Pte Bamford, F

VDH

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

21508

9 KOYLI

B

43630

Pte Mills, R

Influenza

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

 

* ex Leicesters?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Private 9787 A. Jackson, Trench Mortar Battery (possibly ex Leicesters) – Private 9787 Albert Jackson, Leicestershire Regiment does seem to be the best match.

 

Private 33957 H S M Thompson, Essex Regiment – worth considering is Private Henri S.M. Thompson, Essex Regiment, although his Regimental number is shown on his MiC as 3482. He would also serve with the Middlesex Regiment as G/92578. MiC is at the National Archive under reference WO 372/19/224100

Ancestry has Pension Records in the name of Henri Stanhope Millor Thompson which might be the same man and so might resolve the Regimental number issue.

The familysearch website has a record for a Henri Stanhope Mellor Thompson who was 33956, 3rd Battalion Essex Regiment.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVBL-S76W

They also have another record for him as 33957 11th Battalion, Essex Regiment.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVB5-YJ74

 

Private 11564 H. Archer, Royal Warwickshire Regiment – the National Archive has a MiC catalogued for a “1156” Private Henry Archer, Royal Warwickshire Regiment who would go on to serve with the Labour Corps as “648277”. He qualified for the 1915 Star, as well as the Victory Medal and the British War Medal, plus was issued with the Silver War Badge. However looking at the card , despite the best effort of the penmanship of the clerk concerned to disguise it, it looks to me as though his RWK number was 11564. Ancestry seem to agree as that’s the number thay have indexed it as. Card is at the National Archive under reference  WO 372/1/107770

 

regards,

Peter

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Another great post, Peter

 

Page 22

Index No

Regt/Bn/Corps

Sqdn/Bty/Co

Regtl No

Rank/Name

Diseases/

Wounds/Injuries

Admission

Discharge

Entrained

Detrained

21509

RFA

A/94

55332

Dvr Handley, W P

Trench fever

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

21510

RFA

D/95

46681

Gnr Morgan, J

Abscess axilla R

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

21511

RFC

25 Sqn

38994

2/AM Lawder, W

Mastoiditis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

21512

ASC att

186 S Bty

222727

Pte Armstrong, R I

Albuminuria

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

21513

15 DLI

B

318

Pte Croft, G W

Influenza

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

21514

6 Leicest

C

36034

Pte Stokes, G

Bronchitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

21515

RFC

25 Sqn

34476

2/AM Dudley, W

Tuberculosis ?

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

21516

RFA

21 DAC

64296

Cpl Wilcox, G A

Urethral fistula

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

21517

RE

129 Fld

63788

Spr Dutton, W

GSW head

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21518

1 Ches

A

49089

L/Cpl Riley, R K

Septic hd

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21519

2 Y & L

A

38086

Pte Williams, N

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21520

RFA

X 24 TMB

639

Gnr Holt, H C

Pleurisy ?

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21521

RFA

D/15

70922

Gnr Johnson, G

GSW thigh R

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21522

8 Beds

B

33255

Pte Colgan, L C

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21523

2 Y & L

D

31144

Pte Keigan, G

Incon urine

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21524

8 R W K

C

7282

Pte Boniface, B

GSW foot L

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

Ward M

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

21525

6 Beds

 

31562

Pte Hebington, W

Piles

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21526

1 Chesters

 

49367

Pte Edwards, W

Boils

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21527

15 R War

 

23448

Pte McCarthy, J

PUO

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21528

8 Buffs

 

1444

Pte Walters, W

Bomb wd acc

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21529

1 DCLI

 

18560

Pte Rogers, W

Tachycardia

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21530

15 R War

 

19227

Pte Smith, T

Lumbago

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21531

1 DCLI

 

27771

Pte Gregory, A

Hernia

23/1/17

24/1/17

St Venant

Etaples

21532

12 Glosters

 

14983

L/Cpl Hunt, H

Abscess neck

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21533

RFA

124 B

152080

Gnr Gibbons, J

ICT leg

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21534

RGA

9 HB

58859

Dvr Conley, A

NYD renal calculus

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21535

1 E Yorks

 

33296

Pte Baxter, T

NYD pyrexia

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21536

RGA

140 HB

2124

Gnr Cunnington, J

Ac conjunctivitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21537

RFA

106 B

65081

Gnr Percival, F J

Synov knee L

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21538

ASC

608

161572

Pte Newstead, F

Ischiorectal abscess

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

 

 

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Bardess

 

Do you know the route the train took?

 

I have noted some 56th Div men and know they were in the Laventie area in Jan 1917.

 

Bob

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I'm afraid not, Bob

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Corporal 64296 G A Wilcox, Royal Field Artillery – probably Corporal 64298 George Wilcox, Royal Field Artillery. The MiC is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/21/157413

First entered a Theatre of War on the 11th September 1914 so qualified for the 1914 Star as well as the Victory Medal and the British War Medal, plus he was issued with the Silver War Badge. Looks like he may have been originally with the 38th Brigade, RFA.

 

regards,

Peter

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Also came across this earlier.

 

Private 13411 Abner Holgate, North Staffs, was admitted to the 22 General Hospital, Dannes on the 20th January 1917 with 'L.Ing. Hernia Sev.' By the 24th he would be in the Norfolk War Hospital, Thorpe, Norwich. Looking on the map Dannes is the next town up the coast from Camiers. So that would be:-

 

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Excellent!

 

Final page

Index No

Regt/Bn/Corps

Sqdn/Bty/Co

Regtl No

Rank/Name

Diseases/

Wounds/Injuries

Admission

Discharge

Entrained

Detrained

21539

2 DLI

 

26873

Pte Ward, A

ICT legs

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21540

RE

254 T C

132439

Spr Dellow, F

Inf mid ear

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21541

10 KOYLI

 

1588

L/Cpl Warhurst, J

NYD pyrexia

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21542

2 N & D

 

47436

Pte Elliott, C

Laryngitis

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

21543

8 Queens

A

128

L/Cpl Cox, W

NYD pyrexia

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

21544

12 Glosters

 

16526

Pte Tugwell, A

Disloc thumb

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

21545

RE

2 Durham Fld

1778

Spr Gray, R

Stricture

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

21546

RGA

180 Siege

102934

Gnr Holt, W A

Hernia

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

21547

9 Norfolks

 

40168

Pte Chapman, S

Osteoma humerus

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

21548

ASC att

1 A Sup C

30115

Dvr Disney, W

Spr ankle

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

21549

1 Norfolks

 

40008

Pte Cousins, W H

Hernia

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

21550

1 E Surrey

 

31173

Pte Bianchi, C H

Ischiorectal abscess

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

21551

MGC

15

60230

Pte Nield, H

Haemorrhoids

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

21552

14 DLI

C

14439

Pte Todner, H

ICT groin

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

21553

RFA

94 B

34895

Gnr Nixon, R

Diarrhoea

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

21554

RE

ROD

197717

Spr Mehegan, M

ICT groin

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

21555

ASC

55

M2/

054327

Pte Hopkins, W

DAH

23/1/17

24/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

21556

7 E Surrey

 

6066

Pte Bexfield, G F

Pyrexia & NYD

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21557

1 Leicester

 

27017

Pte Burt, G W

Trench fever

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21558

1 Leicester

 

407912

Pte Hudson, E

Hammer toe

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21559

8 Queens

 

2339

L/Cpl Hardy, H J

GSW forearm L

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21560

RE

22 Special

156589

Cpl Saunders, H

GSW scalp

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21561

1 Buffs

 

37

Pte Stallwood, C

Carbuncle

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21562

2 Y & Lancs

 

1970

Pte Watts, F L

Aneurysmal varix

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21563

14 DLI

 

1537

Pte Handisides, A W

GSW heel R

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21564

8 Queens

 

7094

Pte Earl, G W

Deafness NYD

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21565

1 R W K

 

12873

L/Cpl Davis, P

Abscess Axilla

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21566

7 N F att

10 Yorks

33050

Pte Angrave, E

Myalgia

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21567

1 DCLI

 

2292

Pte Dalton, S

Epilepsy

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

21568

1 E Surrey

 

31161

Pte Nash, P J

ICT leg R

23/1/17

24/1/17

Chocques

Etaples

 

 

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Private 47436 C Elliott, Sherwood Foresters – poss Private 47434 Cyril Elliott, Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment. He would also serve as 43372 Leicestershire Regiment. although it’s not clear from the MiC in what order. The MiC is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/6/186781

He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal.

 

Private 407912 E Hudson, Leicestershire Regiment – poss Private 40712 Ernest Hudson, Leicestershire Regiment. The MiC is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/10/81830

He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. He was also issued with the Silver War Badge.

 

Cheers,

Peter

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Thank you Peter.

 

I do hope that transcribing this register is of benefit to rellies or researchers alike. Who knows, there might be another in the offing in the New Year ^_^

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On 15/11/2018 at 14:55, Bardess said:

The first of 23 pages accessed on the recent FMP free weekend. Red = MIC found

 

Index No

 

Regt/Bn/Corps

 

Sqdn/Bty/Co

 

Regtl No

 

Rank/Name

 

Diseases/

 

Wounds/Injuries

 

Admission

 

Discharge

 

Entrained

 

Detrained

 

Ward L

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Trip No 59

 

20883

 

9 Norfolks

 

C

 

40162

 

Pte Meadows, W J

 

Trench fever

 

15/1/17

 

16/1/17

 

Lapugnoy

 

Etaples

 

20884

 

9 Norfolks

 

C

 

29853

 

Pte Bond, H L

 

TB

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

 

20885

 

2 Y & L

 

A

 

20170

 

Pte Warburton, J

 

Pyrexia NYD

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

 

20886

 

1 DCLI

 

D

 

23118

 

Pte Lashbrooke, C

 

Pneumonia

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

 

20887

 

1 E Kents

 

D

 

10293

 

Pte Brown, D

 

PUO

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

 

20888

 

7 Northants

 

B

 

40053

 

Pte Gardener, J

 

GSW Leg L

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

 

20889

 

RAMC

 

72 FA

 

102976

 

Pte Hirst, J H

 

NYD Pyrexia

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

 

20890

 

8 R W Surr

 

A

 

1757

 

Pte O’Mara, J L

 

GSW Leg L [acc]

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

 

20891

 

13 Middx

 

D

 

43232

 

Pte Webb, J

 

Diarrhoea

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lapugnoy

Etaples

 

Ward M

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

20892

 

8 Buffs

 

A

 

4791

 

Pte Newman, E C

 

Ptorrhoea  [?]

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

20893

 

11 Essex

 

 

 

20069

 

Pte Turner, W

 

SW Chest

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

20894

 

1 R Fus

 

 

 

42498

 

Pte Francis, H

 

Rupture

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lillers

 

Etaples

 

20895

 

11 Leicester

 

 

 

22948

 

Pte Machin, G R S

 

Ing Neuralgia

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

 

20896

 

RFA

 

38/B

 

71093

 

Bdr Witherford, H

 

NYD Pyrexia

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

 

20897

 

9 R Sussex

 

 

 

7293

 

Pte Miles, J

 

GSW Hand L

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

 

20898

 

3 RB att RE

 

104 Fld

 

13518

 

Rfn Godkin, A

 

Conjunctivitis

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

 

20899

 

2 N & D

 

 

 

20384

 

Pte Ellis, A

 

Haemorrhoids

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

 

20900

 

1 Buffs

 

 

 

10422

 

Pte Thurlepy, H E

 

Old Wd. Eye

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

 

20901

 

11 Essex

 

 

 

31112

 

Pte Sapsford, A

 

Inf of Larynx

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

 

20902

 

9 R F att RE

 

170 C

 

3899

 

Pte McPhie, J

 

Wd fingers L [acc]

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

 

20903

 

1 R W K

 

 

 

7608

 

Pte Blackman, J P

 

Goitre

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

 

20904

 

2 KOSB

 

 

 

22537

 

Pte Mason, C

 

ICT fingers

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

 

20905

 

RE

 

8 Rly

 

15893

 

Spr Wood, J

 

Displaced Semilunar

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

 

20906

 

11 Essex

 

 

 

14148

 

Sgt Gray, S J

 

Inf Larynx

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Lillers

Etaples

 

20907

 

10 Y & L

 

D

 

6266

 

Pte Nicholson, B

 

ICT finger

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Merville

 

Etaples

 

20908

 

10 LNL

 

C

 

24494

 

Pte Moon, H

 

ICT ankle

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Merville

Etaples

 

20909

 

1 DCLI

 

HQ

 

6413

 

Pte Hopkins, H

 

???? sole of foot

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Merville

Etaples

 

20910

 

1 E Lancs

 

A

 

13691

 

Pte Heyes, W

 

ICT legs

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Merville

Etaples

 

20911

 

6 Beds

 

A

 

43156

 

Pte Smith, A

 

VDH

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Merville

Etaples

 

20912

 

10 LNL

 

C

 

33130

 

Pte Bartholomew, J

 

Myalgia

 

15/1/17

16/1/17

Merville

Etaples

 

 

First of an occasional series called "What happened next".

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While I can't prove that the other names on page 1 that entrained from the same location and detrained at the same location came through the same medical facitliies, it would be a reasonable working hypothesis.

 

It also puts a different slant on what actually constituted a 'blighty' !

 

Cheers,

Peter

 

(WRCCS - I believe that's the West Riding Casualty Clearing Station).

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Bardess

Nice one, Peter. Dates of movement would be great but it all adds to their stories nonetheless

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2 hours ago, Bardess said:

Nice one, Peter. Dates of movement would be great but it all adds to their stories nonetheless

 

Dates match  - I'm intending to add a comment in the notes column if there is any discrepancy. Thus for Henry Edward Thurley his Casualty Form Active Service shows a move from the WRCCS to 31 Ambulance Train on the 15th January 1917 and on the 16th he is reported at 1 Canadian General Hospital, Etaples.

 

The equivalent page for Evelyn Charles Newman, (sourced FindMyPast), is attached. It's just about possible to make out his progression through the medical evacuation chain for this period, but the dates all seem to tie up.

 

Cheers,

Peter

 

 

Evelyn Charles Newman 4791 Buffs Casualty Form Active Service.jpg

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Bardess

Fantastic!

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