theodore Posted 14 November , 2018 Share Posted 14 November , 2018 I have a map ref (well part but no sheet number etc.) of 28.H.11.b.9.4. I know its not much to go on but if any member can help to locate where this position actually is it would be most appreciated. Just another small piece of info is that it could be west of Ypres near a Chateau (possibly along or just off the Vlamertinghe - Ypres Road). Regards Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted 14 November , 2018 Share Posted 14 November , 2018 I think you do have the sheet number, it's sheet 28! This is more or less due west from Ypres, maybe 1000-1500 yards. There is a moated structure on the map but not named even on 1:10,000. TEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Sercu Posted 14 November , 2018 Share Posted 14 November , 2018 Theodore, A wellknown place. A while ago I wrote an article about it for our local magazine. (Because there were two Shot at Dawns there, now buried at White House cemetery, Sint-Jan near Ypres) However it is so wellknown that ... I can't remember the name. I mean : it does / did have a name, even before WW1, "Seminariekasteel", but on some trench maps it shows a name it seems. Bear with me. I'll find ... my article. :-) The postwar building is still there. As a matter of fact, the post war renovated construction. Do you want a photo of how it looked like right after WW1 ? Let me know. Aurel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Sercu Posted 14 November , 2018 Share Posted 14 November , 2018 Theodore, Found it : Bobstay Castle (but rarely mentioned I think on Trench Maps. And I don't ... remember (!) where I found that name.) Aurel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWARD1 Posted 14 November , 2018 Share Posted 14 November , 2018 Named on 28NW4 3B(local) 13/7/18. the other two moated areas above it are Crojack Farm and Scupper Farm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theodore Posted 14 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 14 November , 2018 Thank you all for your most helpful replies. Aurel does the cross on the map show the exact spot? A photo would be very much appreciated. Regards Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Sercu Posted 15 November , 2018 Share Posted 15 November , 2018 (edited) Theodore, Yes, where my two lines cross is 28.H.11.b.9.4 Mind you, this is a square of 45 metres x 45 metres.. And if my information is correct, then imagine that square as the one of which the point where the two lines cross as the bottom left corner of the square. But of course we do not know if the man who made the co-ordinates was accurate... Photo in a posting after this, soon. Edward1, Thanks. I didn't know about Crowjack and Supper. Are these respectively the moated Farm just west of Bobstay Castle (Seminariekasteel) and the one north of it ? Aurel Edited 15 November , 2018 by Aurel Sercu typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Sercu Posted 15 November , 2018 Share Posted 15 November , 2018 (edited) Postcard shortly after the war. Edited 15 November , 2018 by Aurel Sercu another typo :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWARD1 Posted 15 November , 2018 Share Posted 15 November , 2018 Aurel, the double moated area North of Bobstay is , nearest Crojack, furthest Scupper farms, the moated area West may be part of Goldfish Chateau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theodore Posted 15 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 15 November , 2018 (edited) Aurel, Many thanks for your help (map & photo). Regards Peter Edited 16 November , 2018 by theodore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertb Posted 16 November , 2018 Share Posted 16 November , 2018 Seminariekasteel - sounds like a place where priests were trained? "Bobstay" seems an unusual translation. Aurel - thanks again for the "mini tour" back in August - Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Sercu Posted 16 November , 2018 Share Posted 16 November , 2018 (edited) Edward1, Thanks, that's clear now (I should have read "above" in your posting ! :-( Rob, Correct, Property of the Ypres bishops, and where trainee priests found a place to ... well, I don't know. Come to peace and serenity ? :-) But that was before approx. 1800. Then 'cnofiscated' by the anticlerical authorities and sold to a French nobleman. But the name remained. Bobstay ... Strange name ... My English > Dutch dictionary says : Bobstay = Dutch "waterstag". But not understanding that Dutch word, I had to find it is some part of a boat ? Is there a link to "seminariekasteeltje"? And now I will try to find what "Crojack" means ... A person's name ? Aurel PS (added 5 minutes later) I found Bobstay and Crojack (Wikipedia). Both nautical terms. It was wonderful to read : Cro'jack or crossjack a square yard used to spread the foot of a topsail where no course is set, e.g. on the foremast of a topsail schooner or above the driver on the mizzen mast of a ship rigged vessel. But if you think I understand, you sure are overestimating my intellectual capacities. (No, do not even try to explain ! :-) ) Edited 16 November , 2018 by Aurel Sercu adding PS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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