Richard C Posted 9 November , 2018 Share Posted 9 November , 2018 I would appreciate if anyone can help identify the cap badge that my grandfather is wearing in this photo taken in 1914. I believe at this time he was a private in the 28th London Regt ( Artists) but I can't seem to verify the cap badge. He later went to serve with the Royal Engineers on the Western Front. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 9 November , 2018 Admin Share Posted 9 November , 2018 Cap badge I would say Loyal North Lancs. This photo is of an officer, not a private soldier Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medaler Posted 9 November , 2018 Share Posted 9 November , 2018 9 minutes ago, Michelle Young said: Cap badge I would say Loyal North Lancs Michelle Yes, I agree. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard C Posted 9 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2018 (edited) Thats interesting, thank you. I'm now know that he did serve for a while as a 2nd lieutenant in the Loyal North Lancs before transferring to the Royal Engineers later in the war. Not sure why as he was from the Home counties. Edited 9 November , 2018 by Richard C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 9 November , 2018 Share Posted 9 November , 2018 15 minutes ago, Richard C said: I think he might have been a 2nd lieutenant when this photo was taken, does that fit? Maybe. If you can supply his name, and any other details that you know about him, the cross referencing wheels of the forum could grind into action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard C Posted 9 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2018 Thank you. His name was Sidney Herbert Crease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWARD1 Posted 9 November , 2018 Share Posted 9 November , 2018 (edited) MIC Sidney Herbert Crease 28th London Private 7054, 761611 then Loyal North Lancs 2nd Lt, then Royal Engineers Lt Edited 9 November , 2018 by EDWARD1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard C Posted 9 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2018 2 minutes ago, EDWARD1 said: MIC Sidney Herbert Crease 28th London Private 7054, Loyal North Lancs 71611 then 2nd Lt, then Royal Engineers Lt That's him. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard C Posted 9 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2018 Later in the war he served with the Royal Engineers and we have this photo of him ( in the white trousers) with his platoon maybe . Does his uniform/dress tell us anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWARD1 Posted 9 November , 2018 Share Posted 9 November , 2018 (edited) He was at University of London Officer Training Corps King`s College from March 16 to June 19. Gained BSc Lt in RE Edited 9 November , 2018 by EDWARD1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyH Posted 9 November , 2018 Share Posted 9 November , 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Richard C said: Later in the war he served with the Royal Engineers and we have this photo of him ( in the white trousers) with his platoon maybe . Does his uniform/dress tell us anything? Taken at the end of, or after, the war. There are several medal ribbons on show. Also the sergeant front left has 5 overseas chevrons on his right sleeve which I think would date it to 1919 - but wait for real uniform experts to come along. https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/soldiers/how-to-research-a-soldier/tips-for-interpreting-photographs-of-men-in-uniform/whats-that-on-his-sleeve-an-overseas-service-chevron/ BillyH. edit : The officer in the front centre looks a bit old for overseas service, and there is what looks like a pot of heather at his feet. Could have been taken in Scotland ? Edited 9 November , 2018 by BillyH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 9 November , 2018 Admin Share Posted 9 November , 2018 Looks like a Military Cross ribbon he's wearing Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard C Posted 9 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2018 36 minutes ago, EDWARD1 said: He was at University of London Officer Training Corps King`s College from March 16 to June 19. Gained BSc Lt in RE Thank you that's Interesting, Where did you find that information? He must have served in the RE while still studying for his BSc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggers Posted 9 November , 2018 Share Posted 9 November , 2018 I cannot see that he has collar badges. No stick and ‘excused boots’? D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 9 November , 2018 Share Posted 9 November , 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Michelle Young said: Looks like a Military Cross ribbon he's wearing Michelle I thought that but then saw that most of them, including ORs, wear the same ribbon. Edited 9 November , 2018 by PhilB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted 9 November , 2018 Share Posted 9 November , 2018 Indian General Service Medal maybe? 3rd Afghan war 1919? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyH Posted 9 November , 2018 Share Posted 9 November , 2018 (edited) Narrowing down the R.E. photo to just his feet (and his friend). It looks as though he has two odd shoes - or is it just a trick of the light? BillyH. Edited 9 November , 2018 by BillyH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 9 November , 2018 Share Posted 9 November , 2018 Several of the o.r.s have signaller brassards and I wonder if the medal is actually a War Medal or Victory medal. I can't remember which but I believe it often shows up strangely on these prints. One at least looks to have a 14 or 14-15 Star. I wonder if our man has just come from playing for the XI: he looks to have whites on under the jacket as well. Pulling on a jacket and a proper set of shoes might have been all he had time for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWARD1 Posted 9 November , 2018 Share Posted 9 November , 2018 Richard C the OTC information is available on Ancestry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard C Posted 9 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2018 46 minutes ago, EDWARD1 said: Richard C the OTC information is available on Ancestry Thanks for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard C Posted 9 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2018 1 hour ago, Steven Broomfield said: Several of the o.r.s have signaller brassards and I wonder if the medal is actually a War Medal or Victory medal. I can't remember which but I believe it often shows up strangely on these prints. One at least looks to have a 14 or 14-15 Star. I wonder if our man has just come from playing for the XI: he looks to have whites on under the jacket as well. Pulling on a jacket and a proper set of shoes might have been all he had time for. That's a possibility, we hadn't thought of that. i will make enquiries with other family about whether he might have played at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard C Posted 9 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2018 Thanks everyone for your help on this today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Upton Posted 10 November , 2018 Share Posted 10 November , 2018 10 hours ago, PhilB said: I thought that but then saw that most of them, including ORs, wear the same ribbon. 10 hours ago, Dragoon said: Indian General Service Medal maybe? 3rd Afghan war 1919? Chris British War Medal ribbon. Would be a good indicator the picture was taken up to mid/late 1919, prior to the issue of Victory Medal ribbon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 10 November , 2018 Share Posted 10 November , 2018 18 hours ago, Steven Broomfield said: Several of the o.r.s have signaller brassards and I wonder if the medal is actually a War Medal or Victory medal. I can't remember which but I believe it often shows up strangely on these prints. One at least looks to have a 14 or 14-15 Star. I wonder if our man has just come from playing for the XI: he looks to have whites on under the jacket as well. Pulling on a jacket and a proper set of shoes might have been all he had time for. Cricket whites seems a good call to me too Steven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 10 November , 2018 Share Posted 10 November , 2018 Wouldn`t a gentleman play tennis in white trousers in those days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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