2 Brothers who fell while in the KOSB WW1

[Guest]

I'm doing research on my family members in particular 2 Great Great Uncles who fell while fighting with the KOSB. I would like to know where they fell and what actions they took place in.

There names: Corporal Samuel Nisbet

                       No 7068, 2nd Battalion KOSB, died 2.7.1917 aged 27

                      Buried in Duisans Cementery, France

 

                     Lance Corparl James Nisbet

                     No 6351, D coy, 6th Battalion KOSB, died 30.9.1918 aged 27.

                    Buried in Dadizeele Cementery, Belgium.                   

 

Both were from Prestonpans which is now in East Lothian, Scotland.

 

I don't have any photographs or information about them except what was reported in the newspapers, any help would be appreciated.

[charlie962]

Welcome to the Forum, James.

 

Samuel Nisbet is recorded on Soldiers Died in the Great War as died of wounds. So he may not have been wounded the same day he died and he may have been buried near a casualty clearing station or hospital.   Note that he had previously been wounded July 1916 (reported in Daily Casualty List 14/8/16)

 

 

James Nisbet is shown on SDGW as killed in action.

 

Charlie

Edited 15 October , 2018 by charlie962

[Pat Atkins]

A good starting point would be the Long Long Trail (second tab from the left at the top of the page) - type in KOSB and it'll provide a brief summary of each battalion's whereabouts in the war. Also, there's lots of advice about researching a soldier on there too. If you're a member of Ancestry you can access the battalions' War Diaries, which will give you an idea of what was going on around the time of their deaths. It's very unlikely they'll be named in the War Diaries, but you can pick up other information about locations, actions, casualties, etc.

 

Good luck! Pat

[charlie962]

22 minutes ago, charlie962 said:

Samuel Nisbet is recorded on Soldiers Died in the Great War as died of wounds

Soldiers Effects shows him as killed in action but I think he died of wounds as per SDGW. The Cemetery where he is buried was used extensively by No 8 Casualty Clearing Station. If you look at the Cemetery detail on CWGC site you will understand this. If you follow Pat's advice above you will better understand the references I am making if you are not familiar with them.

 

Charlie

Edited 15 October , 2018 by charlie962

[charlie962]

James Nisbet's record on CWGC has a 'Concentration' report and if you click on that you will see that he and several men from other units were exhumed and reburied in the larger cemetery at Dadizeele. The grid reference is given for the original burial site- perhaps that of a field ambulance or near where he fell at the time ?

 

Charlie

Edited 15 October , 2018 by charlie962

[clk]

Hi James,

 

Samuel has some surviving service papers. The Findmypast link is here - they should also be on Ancestry. It seems that his death was reported by 41 Casualty Clearing Station.

 

Image source: Findmypast - WW1 Service Records

 

Regards

Chris

 

Edit 1: Hyperlink inserted

Edit 2: From the National Archives the 2 Bn war diary is here, and the 13 Brigade HQ diary here

 

Edited 15 October , 2018 by clk

[charlie962]

Samuel Nisbet's Service Record on Ancestry is here

[clk]

Hi James,

 

The concentration sheet in the CWGC records for James show that he was originally buried at trench map reference (sheet 28) L.14.a.5.8 (which seems to be about 2 miles away from his currenting place). This link should open up with square L.14 in the centre. Use the transparency slider to see how it fits in to the modern landscape. The Battalion war diary is here on Ancestry, or here from the National Archives. The Division HQ diary is here and here.

 

It looks like the good folk at British War Graves would be able to send you (free of charge) a decent quality image of your relatives headstones.

 

Regards

Chris

[Neil Mackenzie]

Although he is not specifically mentioned James Nisbet was one of the men moved from the Teofani Railway Crossing cemetery to Dadizeele after the war. This thread discusses that cemetery.

 

 

[kenmorrison]

Interesting to note the comments on the CWGC Register

CorporalNISBET, SAMUEL FERGUSON

Service Number 7068

Died 02/07/1917

Aged 27

2nd Bn.
King's Own Scottish Borderers

Son of John and Mary Ferguson Nisbet, of 13, Front St., Cuthill, Prestonpans, Haddingtonshire.

One of three brothers who fell in the War.

Born at Broxburn, Linlithgowshire.

 

Ken

[clk]

Looks like the OP hasn't visited since he joined up, and posted six months ago. Oh well !

 

Regards

Chris

[kenmorrison]

Chris - well just in case!

The service record for Robert Heatly Nisbet 413939 ASC He was called up in July 1918 Discharged February 1919 No longer physically fit.

There is a copy of a letter from a doctor but it's difficult to read.

Robert Heatlie Nisbet was born 1896 in Uphall and died, age 23, on 17 November 1919 in Edinburgh Royal Infirmary – fractured spine.

 

Ken