b3aver Posted 10 October , 2018 Share Posted 10 October , 2018 Can anyone help me to locate the whereabouts of 183 Labour coy in August of 1918 please. i am trying to attach some soldier graffiti to a location but cant find the history/diary of this company which is the closest match I have to the individual. thanks in anticipation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 11 October , 2018 Share Posted 11 October , 2018 The best I can give you is that they came under the command of Third Army, where they had been since at least July 1917. You MIGHT find some relevant material in this War Diary: WO 95/384 Assistant Director Labour 1917 Jan. - 1918 Dec. It can be downloaded from the Kew website, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk for about £3.50. You may need to add a suffix such as /1, /2 etc as there are four diaries in the file. I don't think that is available on Ancestry. There are no other diaries for 1918 for labour groups or companies with Third Army. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew pugh Posted 11 October , 2018 Share Posted 11 October , 2018 Hi Ron Any idea where the the 182nd Labour Corps were in October 1918, and who were they made up of, Irish, Chinese or other nationalities. Regards Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 12 October , 2018 Share Posted 12 October , 2018 Hello Andy 182 Labour Company were under First Army from May to November 1918. I don't have any more detail on their location than that. The men would not have been Chinese, as the Chinese Labour Corps was a separate body. They could well have been Irish, as both 182 and 183 Companies were originally labour companies of the Royal Irish Regiment, but an Irish composition, though likely, is not 100% certain. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3aver Posted 12 October , 2018 Author Share Posted 12 October , 2018 Thanks Ron. I'll check those out. The man I believe it to be was DLI but transferred to 183 Lab Coy.( older and not A1) Looking at his number it does fall into the 14th Durhams Irish inf. as his previous numbers prove. Sadly there is a total lack of info for the labour Coys. It amazed me to find that those who died in france were also buried under their old regimental badges rather than give them the labour coy tag, I don't understand why that was done. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew pugh Posted 12 October , 2018 Share Posted 12 October , 2018 Hi Ron Thanks for your reply. I was informed by the C W G C that the 182 Labour Corps were responsible for recovering 22 sets of remains from 57c.I.32.c.8.0 in late October 1919. Also according to the C W G C these casualties were more than likely originally buried by the Germans.They were all more than likely killed during the German Spring Offensive in that area, probably between the 22/03/18- 25/03/1918. Regards Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themonsstar Posted 14 October , 2018 Share Posted 14 October , 2018 182 Coy Formed as 1st Infantry Labour Company Royal Irish Regiment 12 Feb 17 Arrived France 3 Officers & 493 ORs 19 Feb 17 1 Coy Royal Irish (182 Coy) – tos MONDICOURT – Corps roads, quarry work and unloading trains – VII Corps Diary 14 May 17 Tos ARRAS (38 Gp) 3rd Army – 38 Gp Diary 26 May 17 1 wounded 6 Jun 17 Task – road maintenance – 38 Gp Diary 18 Jun 17 109023 Pte Simpson – killed – 38 Gp Diary 27 Jun 17 60 ORs – tos 38 Gp Diary 2 Jul 17 1 wounded 7 Jun 17 Sgt Hill – wounded – 38 Gp Diary 16 Jul 17 Location TILLOT – 38 Gp Diary 27 Aug 17 410 men examined and only 32 found fit – 38 Gp Diary 19 Sep 17 13 Gp – 39, 137, 180 & 182 Coys – 3rd Army Diary 3 Jan 18 182 Coy – 1 OR wounded – shrapnel – XVII Corps Diary 12 Feb 18 72, 82 & 171 Coys – tos – VII Corps Diary 21 Mar 18 182 Coy – 3 wounded – XVII Corps Diary 23 Mar 18 182 Coy – move from TILLOY to WAILLEY – XVII Corps Diary 7 May 18 182 Coy – DCM 477018 Pte J Brazil & 477020 Pte E Hunter – XVII Corps Diary 28 May 18 182 Coy – move from 51/R.4.a to 51B/G.7.d.0.9 – 1st Army Diary 10 Jun 18 182 Coy – 1 OR wounded by shrapnel – XVII Corps Diary 15 Jun 18 182 Coy – 1 OR wounded by shrapnel – XVII Corps Diary 31 Jul 18 Det 182 Coy – (1 & 112) move from DIEVAL to LIGNY ST FLOCHEL – 1st Army Diary 6 Jul 18 182 Coy – moves from ST VAAST to LIGNY ST FLOCHEL – XVII Corps Diary 6 Jul 18 182 Coy – move from ST VAAST to LINGNY ST FLOCHEL – 1st Army Diary 31 Jul 18 182 Coy – congratulated on the ‘good work’ on DIEVAL Gun Park extension working for 8 (Railway) Coy RE – GHQ Diary 11 Jul 18 182, 192 & 727 Coys and 117 Coy CLC and 255, 288, 777 & 827 Area Coys – sos from 71 Gp tos 26 Gp – 1st Army Diary 26 Aug 18 1 pl 182 Coy – move from LIGNY ST FLOCHEL to SAVY – 1st Army Diary 5 Sep 18 Det 182 Coy – (1 & 74) move from SAVY to LIGNY ST FLOCHEL – 1st Army Diary 8 Sep 18 182 Coy – move from LIGNY ST FLOCHEL to MAISONCELLE – 1st Army Diary 29 Sep 18 182 Coy – move from MAISONCELLE to QUEANT – 1st Army Diary 30 Sep 18 182 Coy – tos QUEANT (26 Gp) – railhead – Canadian Corps Diary SITREP – Canadian Corps Diary Railheads – 1 pl 115, 137, 152, ½ 182 & 1 pl 717 Coy and 28 Coy CLC Burials – ½ 182 Coy 1 Oct 18 182 Coy – move from QUEANT to INCHY – 1st Army Diary 1 Oct 18 ½ 182 Coy – moves from QUEANT to INCHY – burials – Canadian Corps Diary SITREP Railheads – ½ 118, ½ 152, 137 & ½ 182 Coys and 58 Coy CLC Burials – ½ 182 Coy 10 Oct 18 Following sos to XXII Corps – Canadian Corps Diary Railheads – 152, 137 & ½ 182 Coys and ½ 58 Coy CLC and 1 pl 2 Canadian Coy Burials – ½ 182 Coy 12 Oct 18 182 Coy move from QUEANT to SAINS-LES-MARQUION – 1st Army Diary 24 Oct 18 Regrouping: - 1st Army Diary XXII Corps – 21 & 55 Gps - 43, 47, 55, 108, 112, 180, 182 & 1001 Coys and 58, 80 & 99 Coys CLC 182 Coy – move from SAINS-LES-MARQUION to AVESNES-LE SEC 30 Oct 18 Reorganisation as follows: - 1st Army Diary XXII Corps – 21 & 55 Gps - 3, 45, 47, 55, 112, 152, 159, 180, 182 & 1001 Coys and 80 Coy CLC 6 Nov 18 HQ 88 Gp – formed ANICHE – Canadian Corps Diary Units 18, 20, 39, 127, 182 & 192 Coys 6 Nov 18 182 Coy – move from AVENNES-LE-SEC to SAULTAIN – 1st Army Diary 2 Dec 18 Following units tos VIII Corps from XXII Corps – VIII Corps Diary 182 Coy – SAULTAIN – roads 27 Dec 18 Det 182 Coy – (1 & 60) move from SAULTAIN to SOMAIN for sanitary work in Corps Concentration Camp. – VIII Corps Diary 3 Jan 19 182 Coy – move from SAULTAIN to ANZIN – 1st Army Diary 15 Mar 19 39, 45, 54, 80, 89, 170, 178, 182 & 195 Coys – to cadre (1st Army) – GHQ Diary 20 Jun 19 182 (Nucleus) Coy – (9 ORs) move from VALENCIENNES to BAPAUME – 1st Army Diary 30 Jun 19 182 Coy – 482 reinforcements tos BAPAUME from UK – 1st Army Diary 183 Coy Formed as 2nd Infantry Labour Company Royal Irish Regiment 3 Mar 17 Arrived France 3 Officers & 480 ORs 5 Mar 17 2 Coy Royal Irish (183 Coy) – tos GOUY – VII Corps Diary 20 Mar 17 2 Coy Royal Irish (183 Coy) – GOUY – roads and PW cage construction – VII Corps Diary 1 May 17 2 Coy Royal Irish (183 Coy) – move from GOUY to BEAURAINS – VII Corps Diary 12 May 17 Det 183 Coy – 50 men to VII Corps laundry at 42 RUE DOYLLENS, ARRAS. All units East of the line BEAUSAIMES – BAYELLES are to move back by 6 p.m. 14 May 17 due to enemy shelling. – VII Corps Diary 14 May 17 183 Coy – move from BEAURAIMS to 51B/M.9.b – VII Corps Diary 18 May 17 33 Gp – (less 183 Coy) sos to VI Corps – VII Corps Diary 6 Aug 17 Serving 45 Gp (3rd Army) – 45 Gp Diary 2 Sep 17 Cpl Wilson FGCM – 45 Gp Diary 10 Nov 17 183 Coy – Congratulated on roadwork in VII Corps – work is better than that of Road Construction Coys. – GHQ Diary 23 Mar 18 Forward ammo dumps and railheads parties worked until dumps evacuated and then parties then formed for defence work within Divisions. Groups re-concentrated as follows: 45 Gp – Gp HQ and 11, 76, 115, 125, 183 & 722 Coys at BRETENCOURT 18 Coy at BEAUMETZ – VI Corps Diary 26 Mar 18 45 Group. Defences BRETENCOURT to LA HERLIERE – VI Corps Diary 11, 76, 78, 125, 183, 702 & 722 Coys 7 Jun 18 183 Coy – No 5 RE Park WARLINCOURT – VI Corps Diary 24 Jul 18 183 Coy – move to 27ASE/Q.12.c.9.9 (12 Gp) from 27/N.35.b.2.5 (26 Gp) – for ARQUES defence line – 2nd Army Diary 25 Aug 18 62 Gp - 18, 75, 101, 115, 183, 200 & 717 Coys and 279 Area Coy – tos from VI Corps – XVII Corps Diary 3 Sep 18 183 Coy – sos from 51B/S.14.a. to 51B/S.28.d. – VI Corps – XVII Corps Diary 5 Sep 18 183 Coy – moves from 51B/S.14.a to 57C/C.6.c.3.3 – BG rail – XVII Corps Diary 10 Oct 18 Following sos to XXII Corps – Canadian Corps Diary Roads – ½ 47, 108, 159, ½ 170, ½ 181 & 183 Coys 13 Oct 18 183 Coy – moves from 57C/C.2.c.2.3 to 57C/C.5.d.cent – roads – XVII Corps Diary 14 Oct 18 Location NOREUIL (XVII Corps) working on BG railways. Due to move to RCE (V) soon – 3rd Army Diary Notes 19 Oct 18 183 & 704 Coys – tos from 3rd Army – BG rail – Canadian Corps Diary 20 Oct 18 136 & 183 Coys – sos to 1st Army – XVII Corps Diary 21 Oct 18 183 Coy – sos from QUEANT to 1st Army – 3rd Army Diary 21 Oct 18 183 Coy – tos 51B/R.19.d. from QUEANT (52 Gp – 3rd Army) – BG rail – Canadian Corps Diary 21 Oct 18 183 Coy – move from QUEANT to 51B/R.19.d – 1st Army Diary 24 Oct 18 Regrouping: - 1st Army Diary Regrouping: Regrouping: - 1st Army Diary Canadian Corps – Canadian Gp 18, 20, 127, 135, 138, 150, 163, 164, 181, 183 & 704 Coys 1, 2, 3 & 4 Canadian Coys and 7 & 9 Canadian Area Coy 27 Oct 18 183 Coy – sos to OISY LES VERGER – BG rail – Canadian Corps Diary 27 Oct 18 183 Coy – move from OISY-LE-VERGER to PLOUVAIN – 1st Army Diary 30 Oct 18 Reorganisation as follows: - 1st Army Diary Army Area - 71 Gp – 2, 37, 39, 51, 89, 108, 127, 137, 169, 183, 733 & 735 Coys 58, 99, 121 & 167 Coys CLC 16 Nov 18 183 Coy – move from ROEUX to ST AMAND – 1st Army Diary 16 Nov 18 183 Coy – tos ST AMAND from ROEUX (71 Gp Army Area) – BG rail – VIII Corps Diary 6 Jan 19 183 Coy – moved from ST AMAND to ARRAS – 1st Army Diary 11 May 19 183 & 1001 Coys and 314 PW Coy and 122, 128, 131, 162 & 175 Coys CLC – sos 69 Gp tos 10 Gp – 1st Army Diary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3aver Posted 24 October , 2018 Author Share Posted 24 October , 2018 On 14/10/2018 at 13:55, themonsstar said: 182 Coy Formed as 1st Infantry Labour Company Royal Irish Regiment 12 Feb 17 Arrived France 3 Officers & 493 ORs 19 Feb 17 1 Coy Royal Irish (182 Coy) – tos MONDICOURT – Corps roads, quarry work and unloading trains – VII Corps Diary 14 May 17 Tos ARRAS (38 Gp) 3rd Army – 38 Gp Diary 26 May 17 1 wounded 6 Jun 17 Task – road maintenance – 38 Gp Diary 18 Jun 17 109023 Pte Simpson – killed – 38 Gp Diary 27 Jun 17 60 ORs – tos 38 Gp Diary 2 Jul 17 1 wounded 7 Jun 17 Sgt Hill – wounded – 38 Gp Diary 16 Jul 17 Location TILLOT – 38 Gp Diary 27 Aug 17 410 men examined and only 32 found fit – 38 Gp Diary 19 Sep 17 13 Gp – 39, 137, 180 & 182 Coys – 3rd Army Diary 3 Jan 18 182 Coy – 1 OR wounded – shrapnel – XVII Corps Diary 12 Feb 18 72, 82 & 171 Coys – tos – VII Corps Diary 21 Mar 18 182 Coy – 3 wounded – XVII Corps Diary 23 Mar 18 182 Coy – move from TILLOY to WAILLEY – XVII Corps Diary 7 May 18 182 Coy – DCM 477018 Pte J Brazil & 477020 Pte E Hunter – XVII Corps Diary 28 May 18 182 Coy – move from 51/R.4.a to 51B/G.7.d.0.9 – 1st Army Diary 10 Jun 18 182 Coy – 1 OR wounded by shrapnel – XVII Corps Diary 15 Jun 18 182 Coy – 1 OR wounded by shrapnel – XVII Corps Diary 31 Jul 18 Det 182 Coy – (1 & 112) move from DIEVAL to LIGNY ST FLOCHEL – 1st Army Diary 6 Jul 18 182 Coy – moves from ST VAAST to LIGNY ST FLOCHEL – XVII Corps Diary 6 Jul 18 182 Coy – move from ST VAAST to LINGNY ST FLOCHEL – 1st Army Diary 31 Jul 18 182 Coy – congratulated on the ‘good work’ on DIEVAL Gun Park extension working for 8 (Railway) Coy RE – GHQ Diary 11 Jul 18 182, 192 & 727 Coys and 117 Coy CLC and 255, 288, 777 & 827 Area Coys – sos from 71 Gp tos 26 Gp – 1st Army Diary 26 Aug 18 1 pl 182 Coy – move from LIGNY ST FLOCHEL to SAVY – 1st Army Diary 5 Sep 18 Det 182 Coy – (1 & 74) move from SAVY to LIGNY ST FLOCHEL – 1st Army Diary 8 Sep 18 182 Coy – move from LIGNY ST FLOCHEL to MAISONCELLE – 1st Army Diary 29 Sep 18 182 Coy – move from MAISONCELLE to QUEANT – 1st Army Diary 30 Sep 18 182 Coy – tos QUEANT (26 Gp) – railhead – Canadian Corps Diary SITREP – Canadian Corps Diary Railheads – 1 pl 115, 137, 152, ½ 182 & 1 pl 717 Coy and 28 Coy CLC Burials – ½ 182 Coy 1 Oct 18 182 Coy – move from QUEANT to INCHY – 1st Army Diary 1 Oct 18 ½ 182 Coy – moves from QUEANT to INCHY – burials – Canadian Corps Diary SITREP Railheads – ½ 118, ½ 152, 137 & ½ 182 Coys and 58 Coy CLC Burials – ½ 182 Coy 10 Oct 18 Following sos to XXII Corps – Canadian Corps Diary Railheads – 152, 137 & ½ 182 Coys and ½ 58 Coy CLC and 1 pl 2 Canadian Coy Burials – ½ 182 Coy 12 Oct 18 182 Coy move from QUEANT to SAINS-LES-MARQUION – 1st Army Diary 24 Oct 18 Regrouping: - 1st Army Diary XXII Corps – 21 & 55 Gps - 43, 47, 55, 108, 112, 180, 182 & 1001 Coys and 58, 80 & 99 Coys CLC 182 Coy – move from SAINS-LES-MARQUION to AVESNES-LE SEC 30 Oct 18 Reorganisation as follows: - 1st Army Diary XXII Corps – 21 & 55 Gps - 3, 45, 47, 55, 112, 152, 159, 180, 182 & 1001 Coys and 80 Coy CLC 6 Nov 18 HQ 88 Gp – formed ANICHE – Canadian Corps Diary Units 18, 20, 39, 127, 182 & 192 Coys 6 Nov 18 182 Coy – move from AVENNES-LE-SEC to SAULTAIN – 1st Army Diary 2 Dec 18 Following units tos VIII Corps from XXII Corps – VIII Corps Diary 182 Coy – SAULTAIN – roads 27 Dec 18 Det 182 Coy – (1 & 60) move from SAULTAIN to SOMAIN for sanitary work in Corps Concentration Camp. – VIII Corps Diary 3 Jan 19 182 Coy – move from SAULTAIN to ANZIN – 1st Army Diary 15 Mar 19 39, 45, 54, 80, 89, 170, 178, 182 & 195 Coys – to cadre (1st Army) – GHQ Diary 20 Jun 19 182 (Nucleus) Coy – (9 ORs) move from VALENCIENNES to BAPAUME – 1st Army Diary 30 Jun 19 182 Coy – 482 reinforcements tos BAPAUME from UK – 1st Army Diary 183 Coy Formed as 2nd Infantry Labour Company Royal Irish Regiment 3 Mar 17 Arrived France 3 Officers & 480 ORs 5 Mar 17 2 Coy Royal Irish (183 Coy) – tos GOUY – VII Corps Diary 20 Mar 17 2 Coy Royal Irish (183 Coy) – GOUY – roads and PW cage construction – VII Corps Diary 1 May 17 2 Coy Royal Irish (183 Coy) – move from GOUY to BEAURAINS – VII Corps Diary 12 May 17 Det 183 Coy – 50 men to VII Corps laundry at 42 RUE DOYLLENS, ARRAS. All units East of the line BEAUSAIMES – BAYELLES are to move back by 6 p.m. 14 May 17 due to enemy shelling. – VII Corps Diary 14 May 17 183 Coy – move from BEAURAIMS to 51B/M.9.b – VII Corps Diary 18 May 17 33 Gp – (less 183 Coy) sos to VI Corps – VII Corps Diary 6 Aug 17 Serving 45 Gp (3rd Army) – 45 Gp Diary 2 Sep 17 Cpl Wilson FGCM – 45 Gp Diary 10 Nov 17 183 Coy – Congratulated on roadwork in VII Corps – work is better than that of Road Construction Coys. – GHQ Diary 23 Mar 18 Forward ammo dumps and railheads parties worked until dumps evacuated and then parties then formed for defence work within Divisions. Groups re-concentrated as follows: 45 Gp – Gp HQ and 11, 76, 115, 125, 183 & 722 Coys at BRETENCOURT 18 Coy at BEAUMETZ – VI Corps Diary 26 Mar 18 45 Group. Defences BRETENCOURT to LA HERLIERE – VI Corps Diary 11, 76, 78, 125, 183, 702 & 722 Coys 7 Jun 18 183 Coy – No 5 RE Park WARLINCOURT – VI Corps Diary 24 Jul 18 183 Coy – move to 27ASE/Q.12.c.9.9 (12 Gp) from 27/N.35.b.2.5 (26 Gp) – for ARQUES defence line – 2nd Army Diary 25 Aug 18 62 Gp - 18, 75, 101, 115, 183, 200 & 717 Coys and 279 Area Coy – tos from VI Corps – XVII Corps Diary 3 Sep 18 183 Coy – sos from 51B/S.14.a. to 51B/S.28.d. – VI Corps – XVII Corps Diary 5 Sep 18 183 Coy – moves from 51B/S.14.a to 57C/C.6.c.3.3 – BG rail – XVII Corps Diary 10 Oct 18 Following sos to XXII Corps – Canadian Corps Diary Roads – ½ 47, 108, 159, ½ 170, ½ 181 & 183 Coys 13 Oct 18 183 Coy – moves from 57C/C.2.c.2.3 to 57C/C.5.d.cent – roads – XVII Corps Diary 14 Oct 18 Location NOREUIL (XVII Corps) working on BG railways. Due to move to RCE (V) soon – 3rd Army Diary Notes 19 Oct 18 183 & 704 Coys – tos from 3rd Army – BG rail – Canadian Corps Diary 20 Oct 18 136 & 183 Coys – sos to 1st Army – XVII Corps Diary 21 Oct 18 183 Coy – sos from QUEANT to 1st Army – 3rd Army Diary 21 Oct 18 183 Coy – tos 51B/R.19.d. from QUEANT (52 Gp – 3rd Army) – BG rail – Canadian Corps Diary 21 Oct 18 183 Coy – move from QUEANT to 51B/R.19.d – 1st Army Diary 24 Oct 18 Regrouping: - 1st Army Diary Regrouping: Regrouping: - 1st Army Diary Canadian Corps – Canadian Gp 18, 20, 127, 135, 138, 150, 163, 164, 181, 183 & 704 Coys 1, 2, 3 & 4 Canadian Coys and 7 & 9 Canadian Area Coy 27 Oct 18 183 Coy – sos to OISY LES VERGER – BG rail – Canadian Corps Diary 27 Oct 18 183 Coy – move from OISY-LE-VERGER to PLOUVAIN – 1st Army Diary 30 Oct 18 Reorganisation as follows: - 1st Army Diary Army Area - 71 Gp – 2, 37, 39, 51, 89, 108, 127, 137, 169, 183, 733 & 735 Coys 58, 99, 121 & 167 Coys CLC 16 Nov 18 183 Coy – move from ROEUX to ST AMAND – 1st Army Diary 16 Nov 18 183 Coy – tos ST AMAND from ROEUX (71 Gp Army Area) – BG rail – VIII Corps Diary 6 Jan 19 183 Coy – moved from ST AMAND to ARRAS – 1st Army Diary 11 May 19 183 & 1001 Coys and 314 PW Coy and 122, 128, 131, 162 & 175 Coys CLC – sos 69 Gp tos 10 Gp – 1st Army DiarD That's excellent. Thank you. I have the name S H Allinson written in a tunnel and that is close enough for me to the location. Now to find his descendants :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 22 November , 2018 Share Posted 22 November , 2018 My paternal grandfather 2nd Lt Trevor Thomas Hansard received an Mention in Dispatches in March 1918 whilst serving with 183 Coy. I would love to learn more about the deployments of the Company. He went on to serve as a TA officer in the Welch Regiment until 1938. My father served in the South Wales Borderers 1954-60 and I served in 16/5L 1983-94. As an interesting footnote: the last Brtish soldier to be killed due to enemy action before 11am was Pte George Ellison 5L (my Regt)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew pugh Posted 22 November , 2018 Share Posted 22 November , 2018 Good Evening All Thank you all so much for the information given. Regards Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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