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Can anyone help me to locate the whereabouts of 183 Labour coy in August of 1918 please.

i am trying to attach some soldier graffiti to a location but cant find the history/diary of this company which is the closest match I have to the individual.

thanks in anticipation 

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The best I can give you is that they came under the command of Third Army, where they had been since at least July 1917.

 

You MIGHT find some relevant material in this War Diary:

WO 95/384 Assistant Director Labour 1917 Jan. - 1918 Dec.  

It can be downloaded from the Kew website, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk for about £3.50. You may need to add a suffix such as /1, /2 etc as there are four diaries in the file. I don't think that is available on Ancestry. There are no other diaries for 1918 for labour groups or companies with Third Army.

 

Ron

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Hi Ron

Any idea where the the 182nd Labour Corps were in October 1918, and who were they made up of, Irish, Chinese or other nationalities.

Regards

Andy  

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Hello Andy

 

182 Labour Company were under First Army from May to November 1918. I don't have any more detail on their location than that.

 

The men would not have been Chinese, as the Chinese Labour Corps was a separate body. They could well have been Irish, as both 182 and 183 Companies were originally labour companies of the Royal Irish Regiment, but an Irish composition, though likely, is not 100% certain.

 

Ron

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Thanks Ron. I'll check those out. The man I believe it to be was DLI but transferred to 183 Lab Coy.( older and not A1) Looking at his number it does fall into the 14th Durhams Irish inf. as his previous numbers prove. Sadly there is a total lack of info for the labour Coys. It amazed me to find that those who died in france were also buried under their old regimental badges rather than give them the labour coy tag, I don't understand why that was done.

 

David

 

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Hi Ron

Thanks for your reply. I was informed by the C W G C that the 182 Labour Corps were responsible for recovering 22 sets of remains from 57c.I.32.c.8.0 in late October 1919. Also according to the C W G C these casualties were more than likely originally buried by the Germans.They were all more than likely killed during the German Spring Offensive in that area, probably between the 22/03/18- 25/03/1918.

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Andy 

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182 Coy

 

 

Formed as 1st Infantry Labour Company Royal Irish Regiment

12 Feb 17

Arrived France 3 Officers & 493 ORs

19 Feb 17

1 Coy Royal Irish (182 Coy) – tos MONDICOURT – Corps roads, quarry work and unloading trains – VII Corps Diary

14 May 17

Tos ARRAS (38 Gp) 3rd Army – 38 Gp Diary

26 May 17

1 wounded

6 Jun 17

Task – road maintenance – 38 Gp Diary

18 Jun 17

109023 Pte Simpson – killed – 38 Gp Diary

27 Jun 17

60 ORs – tos 38 Gp Diary

2 Jul 17

1 wounded

7 Jun 17

Sgt Hill – wounded – 38 Gp Diary

16 Jul 17

Location TILLOT – 38 Gp Diary

27 Aug 17

410 men examined and only 32 found fit – 38 Gp Diary

19 Sep 17

13 Gp – 39, 137, 180 & 182 Coys – 3rd Army Diary

3 Jan 18

182 Coy – 1 OR wounded – shrapnel – XVII Corps Diary

12 Feb 18

72, 82 & 171 Coys – tos – VII Corps Diary

21 Mar 18

182 Coy – 3 wounded – XVII Corps Diary

23 Mar 18

182 Coy – move from TILLOY to WAILLEY – XVII Corps Diary

7 May 18

182 Coy – DCM 477018 Pte J Brazil & 477020 Pte E Hunter  – XVII Corps Diary

28 May 18

182 Coy – move from 51/R.4.a to 51B/G.7.d.0.9 – 1st Army Diary

10 Jun 18

182 Coy – 1 OR wounded by shrapnel – XVII Corps Diary

15 Jun 18

182 Coy – 1 OR wounded by shrapnel – XVII Corps Diary

31 Jul 18

Det 182 Coy – (1 & 112) move from DIEVAL to LIGNY ST FLOCHEL – 1st Army Diary

6 Jul 18

182 Coy – moves from ST VAAST to LIGNY ST FLOCHEL – XVII Corps Diary

6 Jul 18

182 Coy – move from ST VAAST to LINGNY ST FLOCHEL – 1st Army Diary

31 Jul 18

182 Coy – congratulated on the ‘good work’ on DIEVAL Gun Park extension working for 8 (Railway) Coy RE – GHQ Diary

11 Jul 18

182, 192 & 727 Coys and 117 Coy CLC and 255, 288, 777 & 827 Area Coys – sos from 71 Gp tos 26 Gp – 1st Army Diary

26 Aug 18

1 pl 182 Coy – move from LIGNY ST FLOCHEL to SAVY – 1st Army Diary

5 Sep 18

Det 182 Coy – (1 & 74) move from SAVY to LIGNY ST FLOCHEL – 1st Army Diary

8 Sep 18

182 Coy – move from LIGNY ST FLOCHEL to MAISONCELLE – 1st Army Diary

29 Sep 18

182 Coy – move from MAISONCELLE to QUEANT – 1st Army Diary

30 Sep 18

182 Coy – tos QUEANT (26 Gp) – railhead – Canadian Corps Diary

SITREP – Canadian Corps Diary

Railheads – 1 pl 115, 137, 152, ½ 182 & 1 pl 717 Coy and 28 Coy CLC

Burials – ½ 182 Coy

1 Oct 18

182 Coy – move from QUEANT to INCHY – 1st Army Diary

1 Oct 18

½ 182 Coy – moves from QUEANT to INCHY – burials – Canadian Corps Diary

SITREP

Railheads – ½ 118, ½ 152, 137 & ½ 182 Coys and 58 Coy CLC

Burials – ½ 182 Coy

10 Oct 18

Following sos to XXII Corps – Canadian Corps Diary

Railheads – 152, 137 & ½ 182 Coys and ½ 58 Coy CLC and 1 pl 2 Canadian Coy

Burials – ½ 182 Coy

12 Oct 18

182 Coy move from QUEANT to SAINS-LES-MARQUION – 1st Army Diary

24 Oct 18

Regrouping: - 1st Army Diary

XXII Corps – 21 & 55 Gps - 43, 47, 55, 108, 112, 180, 182 & 1001 Coys and 58, 80 & 99 Coys CLC

182 Coy – move from SAINS-LES-MARQUION to AVESNES-LE SEC

30 Oct 18

Reorganisation as follows: - 1st Army Diary

XXII Corps – 21 & 55 Gps - 3, 45, 47, 55, 112, 152, 159, 180, 182 & 1001 Coys and 80 Coy CLC

6 Nov 18

HQ 88 Gp – formed ANICHE – Canadian Corps Diary

                    Units 18, 20, 39, 127, 182 & 192 Coys

6 Nov 18

182 Coy – move from AVENNES-LE-SEC to SAULTAIN – 1st Army Diary

2 Dec 18

Following units tos VIII Corps from XXII Corps – VIII Corps Diary

182 Coy – SAULTAIN – roads

27 Dec 18

Det 182 Coy – (1 & 60) move from SAULTAIN to SOMAIN for sanitary work in Corps Concentration Camp. – VIII Corps Diary

3 Jan 19

182 Coy – move from SAULTAIN to ANZIN – 1st Army Diary

15 Mar 19

39, 45, 54, 80, 89, 170, 178, 182 & 195 Coys – to cadre (1st Army) – GHQ Diary

20 Jun 19

182 (Nucleus) Coy – (9 ORs) move from VALENCIENNES to BAPAUME – 1st Army Diary

30 Jun 19

182 Coy – 482 reinforcements tos BAPAUME from UK – 1st Army Diary

 

 

 

183 Coy

 

 

Formed as 2nd Infantry Labour Company Royal Irish Regiment

3 Mar 17

Arrived France 3 Officers & 480 ORs

5 Mar 17

2 Coy Royal Irish (183 Coy) – tos GOUY – VII Corps Diary

20 Mar 17

2 Coy Royal Irish (183 Coy) – GOUY – roads and PW cage construction – VII Corps Diary

1 May 17

2 Coy Royal Irish (183 Coy) – move from GOUY to BEAURAINS – VII Corps Diary

12 May 17

Det 183 Coy – 50 men to VII Corps laundry at 42 RUE DOYLLENS, ARRAS.

All units East of the line BEAUSAIMES – BAYELLES are to move back by 6 p.m. 14 May 17 due to enemy shelling. – VII Corps Diary

14 May 17

183 Coy – move from BEAURAIMS to 51B/M.9.b – VII Corps Diary

18 May 17

33 Gp – (less 183 Coy) sos to VI Corps – VII Corps Diary

6 Aug 17

Serving 45 Gp (3rd Army) – 45 Gp Diary

2 Sep 17

Cpl Wilson FGCM – 45 Gp Diary

10 Nov 17

183 Coy – Congratulated on roadwork in VII Corps – work is better than that of Road Construction Coys. – GHQ Diary

23 Mar 18

Forward ammo dumps and railheads parties worked until dumps evacuated and then parties then formed for defence work within Divisions.  Groups re-concentrated as follows:

45 Gp – Gp HQ and  11, 76, 115, 125, 183 & 722 Coys at BRETENCOURT

              18 Coy at BEAUMETZ – VI Corps Diary

26 Mar 18

45 Group.  Defences BRETENCOURT to LA HERLIERE – VI Corps Diary

                  11, 76, 78, 125, 183, 702 & 722 Coys

7 Jun 18

183 Coy – No 5 RE Park WARLINCOURT – VI Corps Diary

24 Jul 18

183 Coy – move to 27ASE/Q.12.c.9.9 (12 Gp) from 27/N.35.b.2.5 (26 Gp) – for ARQUES defence line – 2nd Army Diary

25 Aug 18

62 Gp - 18, 75, 101, 115, 183, 200 & 717 Coys and 279 Area Coy – tos from VI Corps – XVII Corps Diary

3 Sep 18

183 Coy – sos from 51B/S.14.a. to 51B/S.28.d. – VI Corps – XVII Corps Diary

5 Sep 18

183 Coy – moves from 51B/S.14.a to 57C/C.6.c.3.3 – BG rail – XVII Corps Diary

10 Oct 18

Following sos to XXII Corps – Canadian Corps Diary

Roads – ½ 47, 108, 159, ½ 170, ½ 181 & 183 Coys

13 Oct 18

183 Coy – moves from 57C/C.2.c.2.3 to 57C/C.5.d.cent – roads – XVII Corps Diary

14 Oct 18

Location NOREUIL (XVII Corps) working on BG railways.  Due to move to RCE (V) soon – 3rd Army Diary Notes

19 Oct 18

183 & 704 Coys – tos from 3rd Army – BG rail – Canadian Corps Diary

20 Oct 18

136 & 183 Coys – sos to 1st Army – XVII Corps Diary

21 Oct 18

183 Coy – sos from QUEANT to 1st Army – 3rd Army Diary

21 Oct 18

183 Coy – tos 51B/R.19.d. from QUEANT (52 Gp – 3rd Army) – BG rail – Canadian Corps Diary

21 Oct 18

183 Coy – move from QUEANT to 51B/R.19.d – 1st Army Diary

24 Oct 18

Regrouping: - 1st Army Diary

Regrouping:

Regrouping: - 1st Army Diary

Canadian Corps – Canadian Gp

                    18, 20, 127, 135, 138, 150, 163, 164, 181, 183 & 704 Coys

                    1, 2, 3 & 4 Canadian Coys and 7 & 9 Canadian Area Coy

27 Oct 18

183 Coy – sos to OISY LES VERGER – BG rail – Canadian Corps Diary

27 Oct 18

183 Coy – move from OISY-LE-VERGER to PLOUVAIN – 1st Army Diary

30 Oct 18

Reorganisation as follows: - 1st Army Diary

Army Area - 71 Gp – 2, 37, 39, 51, 89, 108, 127, 137, 169, 183, 733 & 735 Coys

                    58, 99, 121 & 167 Coys CLC

16 Nov 18

183 Coy – move from ROEUX to ST AMAND – 1st Army Diary

16 Nov 18

183 Coy – tos ST AMAND from ROEUX (71 Gp Army Area) – BG rail – VIII Corps Diary

6 Jan 19

183 Coy – moved from ST AMAND to ARRAS – 1st Army Diary

11 May 19

183 & 1001 Coys and 314 PW Coy and 122, 128, 131, 162 & 175 Coys CLC – sos 69 Gp tos 10 Gp – 1st Army Diary

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On 14/10/2018 at 13:55, themonsstar said:

182 Coy

 

 

Formed as 1st Infantry Labour Company Royal Irish Regiment

12 Feb 17

Arrived France 3 Officers & 493 ORs

19 Feb 17

1 Coy Royal Irish (182 Coy) – tos MONDICOURT – Corps roads, quarry work and unloading trains – VII Corps Diary

14 May 17

Tos ARRAS (38 Gp) 3rd Army – 38 Gp Diary

26 May 17

1 wounded

6 Jun 17

Task – road maintenance – 38 Gp Diary

18 Jun 17

109023 Pte Simpson – killed – 38 Gp Diary

27 Jun 17

60 ORs – tos 38 Gp Diary

2 Jul 17

1 wounded

7 Jun 17

Sgt Hill – wounded – 38 Gp Diary

16 Jul 17

Location TILLOT – 38 Gp Diary

27 Aug 17

410 men examined and only 32 found fit – 38 Gp Diary

19 Sep 17

13 Gp – 39, 137, 180 & 182 Coys – 3rd Army Diary

3 Jan 18

182 Coy – 1 OR wounded – shrapnel – XVII Corps Diary

12 Feb 18

72, 82 & 171 Coys – tos – VII Corps Diary

21 Mar 18

182 Coy – 3 wounded – XVII Corps Diary

23 Mar 18

182 Coy – move from TILLOY to WAILLEY – XVII Corps Diary

7 May 18

182 Coy – DCM 477018 Pte J Brazil & 477020 Pte E Hunter  – XVII Corps Diary

28 May 18

182 Coy – move from 51/R.4.a to 51B/G.7.d.0.9 – 1st Army Diary

10 Jun 18

182 Coy – 1 OR wounded by shrapnel – XVII Corps Diary

15 Jun 18

182 Coy – 1 OR wounded by shrapnel – XVII Corps Diary

31 Jul 18

Det 182 Coy – (1 & 112) move from DIEVAL to LIGNY ST FLOCHEL – 1st Army Diary

6 Jul 18

182 Coy – moves from ST VAAST to LIGNY ST FLOCHEL – XVII Corps Diary

6 Jul 18

182 Coy – move from ST VAAST to LINGNY ST FLOCHEL – 1st Army Diary

31 Jul 18

182 Coy – congratulated on the ‘good work’ on DIEVAL Gun Park extension working for 8 (Railway) Coy RE – GHQ Diary

11 Jul 18

182, 192 & 727 Coys and 117 Coy CLC and 255, 288, 777 & 827 Area Coys – sos from 71 Gp tos 26 Gp – 1st Army Diary

26 Aug 18

1 pl 182 Coy – move from LIGNY ST FLOCHEL to SAVY – 1st Army Diary

5 Sep 18

Det 182 Coy – (1 & 74) move from SAVY to LIGNY ST FLOCHEL – 1st Army Diary

8 Sep 18

182 Coy – move from LIGNY ST FLOCHEL to MAISONCELLE – 1st Army Diary

29 Sep 18

182 Coy – move from MAISONCELLE to QUEANT – 1st Army Diary

30 Sep 18

182 Coy – tos QUEANT (26 Gp) – railhead – Canadian Corps Diary

SITREP – Canadian Corps Diary

Railheads – 1 pl 115, 137, 152, ½ 182 & 1 pl 717 Coy and 28 Coy CLC

Burials – ½ 182 Coy

1 Oct 18

182 Coy – move from QUEANT to INCHY – 1st Army Diary

1 Oct 18

½ 182 Coy – moves from QUEANT to INCHY – burials – Canadian Corps Diary

SITREP

Railheads – ½ 118, ½ 152, 137 & ½ 182 Coys and 58 Coy CLC

Burials – ½ 182 Coy

10 Oct 18

Following sos to XXII Corps – Canadian Corps Diary

Railheads – 152, 137 & ½ 182 Coys and ½ 58 Coy CLC and 1 pl 2 Canadian Coy

Burials – ½ 182 Coy

12 Oct 18

182 Coy move from QUEANT to SAINS-LES-MARQUION – 1st Army Diary

24 Oct 18

Regrouping: - 1st Army Diary

XXII Corps – 21 & 55 Gps - 43, 47, 55, 108, 112, 180, 182 & 1001 Coys and 58, 80 & 99 Coys CLC

182 Coy – move from SAINS-LES-MARQUION to AVESNES-LE SEC

30 Oct 18

Reorganisation as follows: - 1st Army Diary

XXII Corps – 21 & 55 Gps - 3, 45, 47, 55, 112, 152, 159, 180, 182 & 1001 Coys and 80 Coy CLC

6 Nov 18

HQ 88 Gp – formed ANICHE – Canadian Corps Diary

                    Units 18, 20, 39, 127, 182 & 192 Coys

6 Nov 18

182 Coy – move from AVENNES-LE-SEC to SAULTAIN – 1st Army Diary

2 Dec 18

Following units tos VIII Corps from XXII Corps – VIII Corps Diary

182 Coy – SAULTAIN – roads

27 Dec 18

Det 182 Coy – (1 & 60) move from SAULTAIN to SOMAIN for sanitary work in Corps Concentration Camp. – VIII Corps Diary

3 Jan 19

182 Coy – move from SAULTAIN to ANZIN – 1st Army Diary

15 Mar 19

39, 45, 54, 80, 89, 170, 178, 182 & 195 Coys – to cadre (1st Army) – GHQ Diary

20 Jun 19

182 (Nucleus) Coy – (9 ORs) move from VALENCIENNES to BAPAUME – 1st Army Diary

30 Jun 19

182 Coy – 482 reinforcements tos BAPAUME from UK – 1st Army Diary

 

 

 

183 Coy

 

 

Formed as 2nd Infantry Labour Company Royal Irish Regiment

3 Mar 17

Arrived France 3 Officers & 480 ORs

5 Mar 17

2 Coy Royal Irish (183 Coy) – tos GOUY – VII Corps Diary

20 Mar 17

2 Coy Royal Irish (183 Coy) – GOUY – roads and PW cage construction – VII Corps Diary

1 May 17

2 Coy Royal Irish (183 Coy) – move from GOUY to BEAURAINS – VII Corps Diary

12 May 17

Det 183 Coy – 50 men to VII Corps laundry at 42 RUE DOYLLENS, ARRAS.

All units East of the line BEAUSAIMES – BAYELLES are to move back by 6 p.m. 14 May 17 due to enemy shelling. – VII Corps Diary

14 May 17

183 Coy – move from BEAURAIMS to 51B/M.9.b – VII Corps Diary

18 May 17

33 Gp – (less 183 Coy) sos to VI Corps – VII Corps Diary

6 Aug 17

Serving 45 Gp (3rd Army) – 45 Gp Diary

2 Sep 17

Cpl Wilson FGCM – 45 Gp Diary

10 Nov 17

183 Coy – Congratulated on roadwork in VII Corps – work is better than that of Road Construction Coys. – GHQ Diary

23 Mar 18

Forward ammo dumps and railheads parties worked until dumps evacuated and then parties then formed for defence work within Divisions.  Groups re-concentrated as follows:

45 Gp – Gp HQ and  11, 76, 115, 125, 183 & 722 Coys at BRETENCOURT

              18 Coy at BEAUMETZ – VI Corps Diary

26 Mar 18

45 Group.  Defences BRETENCOURT to LA HERLIERE – VI Corps Diary

                  11, 76, 78, 125, 183, 702 & 722 Coys

7 Jun 18

183 Coy – No 5 RE Park WARLINCOURT – VI Corps Diary

24 Jul 18

183 Coy – move to 27ASE/Q.12.c.9.9 (12 Gp) from 27/N.35.b.2.5 (26 Gp) – for ARQUES defence line – 2nd Army Diary

25 Aug 18

62 Gp - 18, 75, 101, 115, 183, 200 & 717 Coys and 279 Area Coy – tos from VI Corps – XVII Corps Diary

3 Sep 18

183 Coy – sos from 51B/S.14.a. to 51B/S.28.d. – VI Corps – XVII Corps Diary

5 Sep 18

183 Coy – moves from 51B/S.14.a to 57C/C.6.c.3.3 – BG rail – XVII Corps Diary

10 Oct 18

Following sos to XXII Corps – Canadian Corps Diary

Roads – ½ 47, 108, 159, ½ 170, ½ 181 & 183 Coys

13 Oct 18

183 Coy – moves from 57C/C.2.c.2.3 to 57C/C.5.d.cent – roads – XVII Corps Diary

14 Oct 18

Location NOREUIL (XVII Corps) working on BG railways.  Due to move to RCE (V) soon – 3rd Army Diary Notes

19 Oct 18

183 & 704 Coys – tos from 3rd Army – BG rail – Canadian Corps Diary

20 Oct 18

136 & 183 Coys – sos to 1st Army – XVII Corps Diary

21 Oct 18

183 Coy – sos from QUEANT to 1st Army – 3rd Army Diary

21 Oct 18

183 Coy – tos 51B/R.19.d. from QUEANT (52 Gp – 3rd Army) – BG rail – Canadian Corps Diary

21 Oct 18

183 Coy – move from QUEANT to 51B/R.19.d – 1st Army Diary

24 Oct 18

Regrouping: - 1st Army Diary

Regrouping:

Regrouping: - 1st Army Diary

Canadian Corps – Canadian Gp

                    18, 20, 127, 135, 138, 150, 163, 164, 181, 183 & 704 Coys

                    1, 2, 3 & 4 Canadian Coys and 7 & 9 Canadian Area Coy

27 Oct 18

183 Coy – sos to OISY LES VERGER – BG rail – Canadian Corps Diary

27 Oct 18

183 Coy – move from OISY-LE-VERGER to PLOUVAIN – 1st Army Diary

30 Oct 18

Reorganisation as follows: - 1st Army Diary

Army Area - 71 Gp – 2, 37, 39, 51, 89, 108, 127, 137, 169, 183, 733 & 735 Coys

                    58, 99, 121 & 167 Coys CLC

16 Nov 18

183 Coy – move from ROEUX to ST AMAND – 1st Army Diary

16 Nov 18

183 Coy – tos ST AMAND from ROEUX (71 Gp Army Area) – BG rail – VIII Corps Diary

6 Jan 19

183 Coy – moved from ST AMAND to ARRAS – 1st Army Diary

11 May 19

183 & 1001 Coys and 314 PW Coy and 122, 128, 131, 162 & 175 Coys CLC – sos 69 Gp tos 10 Gp – 1st Army DiarD

That's excellent. Thank you. 

I have the name S H Allinson written in a tunnel and that is close enough for me to the location. 

Now to find his descendants :-)

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My paternal grandfather 2nd Lt Trevor Thomas Hansard received an Mention in Dispatches in March 1918 whilst serving with 183 Coy.  I would love to learn more about the deployments of the Company.  He went on to serve as a TA officer in the Welch Regiment until 1938. 

 

My father served in the South Wales Borderers 1954-60 and I served in 16/5L 1983-94.  As an interesting footnote: the last Brtish soldier to be killed due to enemy action before 11am was Pte George Ellison 5L (my Regt)!

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