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Details of Arrival at Gallipoli


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I am hoping to find some further details (ship name, date he sailed, port he sailed from, etc.) about my grandfather's arrival in Gallipoli in June/July 1915.  He arrived in July 1915 as part of a draft of reinforcements for the 1/9th Manchester Regiment.

 

B103:
Jul 5th      Taken on strength of Batt'n, Dardanelles.
Jul 23rd    Joined Battalion. Nom Roll, Dardanelles.

 

Based on his B103, can I assume that he arrived at Lemnos (Mudros) on July 5, 1915 but then did not arrive at Cape Helles until the 23rd?

 

1/9th Battalion War Diary for July 23rd says:
5 Officers and 222 other ranks from 2/9th Bn. Manch. R. Capt. D. B. STEPHENSON, 2/Lt. W. M. BARRATT, Lt. S. W. RUTTENAU, 2/Lt. H. INGHAM, 2/Lt. W. G. GREENWOOD.

 

His personal diary says:
"I was one of a draft of reinforcements sent to Gallipoli in June 1915. I recall our arrival at Lemnos and our transfer there from troopship to lighters, our journey thence under cover of darkness, packed as we were, shoulder to shoulder, and as we eased into the shore, seeing the hull of SS River Clyde in the light of Very Lights and exploding gunfire, what an awesome welcome."

 

The war diary for the Embarkation Officer at Mudros is here on Ancestry but does not obviously (at least to me) call out their arrival/departure there.
 

Any help or direction is appreciated.

Peter

 

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I pulled the following list of O.R.s from the Ashton Pals web site that lists them as arriving in Gallipoli on July 23, 1915. I added two additional men and sorted the list by Service No.

 

I'm now thinking that the B.103 entry: "Jul 5th      Taken on strength of Batt'n, Dardanelles."  actually means that they sailed from the UK on July 5th, 1915.

 

Rank No 1st Name 2nd Name Surname
Sgt 1151 JOHN   LAWLER
Pte 1213 ERNEST   HOUGH
Pte 1539 MATTHEW   SHEA
Pte 1697 ARTHUR   LATHAM
Pte 1805 JOHN F JENKINSON
Pte 2214 CHARLES   PARKER
Pte 2241 J   BARKER
Pte 2260 T   WELLINS
Pte 2265 JOHN W CAMPBELL
Pte 2275 JAMES W CHAPMAN
Pte 2293 WALTER   HARDY
Cpl 2322 E   MARLOW
Cpl. 2324 D P CHAMBERS
Pte 2330 HAROLD   CHADWICK
Pte 2337 W H CRANE
Pte 2344 JOSEPH W HARTWELL
Pte 2349 JOHN   HARGREAVES
Pte 2355 WILLIAM   WALSH
Pte 2356 FRED   SMITH
Pte 2365 GEORGE HENRY WALKER
Pte 2379 D   OGDEN
Pte 2384 SAMUEL   KENYON
Cpl 2393 FRED   HALKYARD
Pte 2399 HAROLD   CHARNLEY
Pte 2418 WILLIAM   SHAW
Pte 2423 J   McDONALD
Sgt 2425 ERNEST   BROWN
Pte 2426 ELISHA   SHELMERDINE
Pte 2427 HUGH   HARRISON
Pte 2433 SAMUEL   BUTTERWORTH
Pte 2434 REGINALD   BENNETT
Pte 2435 JOHN   HOWARD
Pte 2449 JOSEPH H ANDREW
Pte 2451 ARTHUR   HAYNES
Pte 2465 HARRY   CHAPMAN
Pte 2468 SAMUEL   TAYLOR
Pte 2472 ALLAN   MILLWARD
A/Sgt 2488 RICHARD   O’DONNELL
Pte 2499 PERCY   TAYLOR
Pte 2514 ALFRED   MOLLYNEAUX
Pte 2533 JOSEPH   CRYER
A/Cpl 2542 JAMES W BOON
Pte 2543 G   MATELY
Pte 2547 JOHN   HADFIELD
Pte 2574 HARRY   HARRISON
Sgt 2580 HERBERT   HOLDEN
Pte 2595 GEORGE H HUNT
Pte 2596 A   PEARSON
Pte 2598 JOHN   HULME
Pte 2607 JOHN WILLIAM COLLINS
Pte 2610 J   MARLAND
Pte 2614 JAMES   RIDINGS
Pte 2616 JOHN   BARDSLEY
Pte 2618 L   HEROD
Pte 2625 JAMES   WALKER
Pte 2627 WILLIAM   HAGUE
Pte 2630 W   THOMPSON
Sgt 2631 HARRY   METCALFE
Pte 2645 J   BENDALL
Pte 2646 A   ELLY
Pte 2651 WILLIAM   O’SULLIVAN
Cpl 2657 WILLIAM   TURNER
Pte 2663 S   STRUTT
Pte 2672 ARTHUR   SLATER
Pte 2673 ERNEST   LAWTON
Pte 2680 SYDNEY   CAINE
Pte 2684 N   POULSTON
Pte 2685 I   DAWSON
Pte 2691 T   WARD
Pte 2727 G   CLARKE
Pte 2731 E   HIBBERT
Pte 2734 VICTOR   HAMER
Pte 2737 REGINALD   NEEDHAM
Pte 2747 J   McKENZIE
Pte 2758 T   HORSEFIELD
Pte 2759 JACK   THOMPSON
Pte 2764 EDWIN   FITTON
Pte 2766 SAMUEL   PICKFORD
Pte 2807 WILLIAM   FIELDING
Pte 2821 R   HUNT
Pte 2827 GEORGE   WALTON
Pte 2831 WILLIAM THOMAS LOMAS
Pte 2837 FRED   OULTON
Pte 2842 SIDNEY   ROWBOTHAM
Pte 2846 VICTOR   BRAMALL
Pte 2854 FRANCIS P HAWKINS
Pte 2863 JOHN D O’BRIEN
Pte 2874 JOHN   BROOKS
Pte 2875 RICHARD   HAMPSON
Pte 2897 HARRY   CLEGG
Pte 2900 FRANK   WHITE
Pte 2902 RICHARD   GRAINGER
Pte 2904 WILLIAM   GILL
Pte 2916 T H LEE
Pte 2924 JOSEPH   DAVIES
Pte 2935 JAMES   DAVIES
Pte 2946 WILLIAM BELL FORRESTER
Pte 2949 HERBERT   BENNETT
Pte 2952 HAROLD   CARTER
Pte 2959 PERCY   BRADLEY
Pte 2965 J   THOMPSON
Pte 2968 JOSEPH   DOWNS
Pte 2971 ALBERT G HARLING
Pte 2975 FRANK   BEARD
Pte 2984 WILLIAM   STOTT
Pte 2985 ROBERT   THEWLIS
Pte 3006 ALFRED   HOBSON
Pte 3016 GEORGE   FULLARD
Pte 3017 WILLIAM   HALL
Pte 3029 TOM A CARR
Pte 3036 JOSEPH   HIBBERT
Pte 3042 W   LEACH
Sgt 3047 ROBERT   BEVAN
Pte 3048 SAMUEL   CASE
Pte 3055 JOSEPH   BARLOW
Pte 3066 WILLIAM   WALKER
Pte 3078 JOSEPH   DOLAN
Cpl 3085 LEONARD   BAILEY
Pte 3089 SAMUEL   COOKE
Pte 3094 WILLIE   CRABTREE
Pte 3097 FRED   BROMLEY
Pte 3101 ANDREW   PEMBERTON
Pte 3118 WILLIAM   BOOTH
Pte 3122 SAMUEL   BATTY
Pte 3137 JOHN   WARD
Pte 3144 D   GREAVES
Pte 3158 FRED   SPENCER
Pte 3171 SAMUEL   BLEAKLEY
Pte 3178 JOSEPH   FOULKES
Pte 3181 JOSEPH R WEST
Pte 3200 JAMES   McNEISH
Pte 3307 WALTER   BOLD
Pte 5482 A   ROBINSON
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Peter

 

The Officers mentioned in your first post and 227 men embarked on Ionian and left Devonport on 3rd July 1915, the port of destination is given as Egypt.

 

One variation in spelling Lieutenant S.W. Ruttenam.

 

I have found that the War Diary for the Embarkation Officer (Mudros) isn't 100% accurate, a number of ships arrivals and departures are missing, but it s a useful base to work from.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Regards

Alan

 

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Alan,

 

Thank you very much that is very helpful indeed. It corroborates an unsubstantiated comment I found on the Ashton Pals web site that says that Private 2499 PERCY TAYLOR, "on July 3rd left Devonport for the Dardanelles with a draft of 250."

 

What's curious is that having checked all 133 men on the list above, those that have a surviving Service Record all show the same B.103 entry:
5-7-1915      Taken on strength of Batt'n, Dardanelles.
23-7-1915    Joined Battalion. Nom Roll, Dardanelles.

 

And their Military History Sheet (Short Service) says their MEF service started on 1-7-1915.

 

So, it looks to me like 1-7-15 and 5-7-15 are both wrong and 3-7-15 is the correct date.


Also, I'm quite sure that "Lieutenant S.W. Ruttenam" is really Lieutenant Sydney William Ruttenau. See here.

 

Thanks Again

Peter

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Hi Peter

 

The embarkation sheet is typed and the original spelling was Ruttenham but the ‘h’ was crossed out. The Embarkation Officer probably should have crossed out the ‘m’ as well.

 

Alan

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