James A Pratt III Posted 6 December , 2019 Share Posted 6 December , 2019 There is a book "Men of Gallipoli" that has a number of French accounts of the campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted 8 December , 2019 Share Posted 8 December , 2019 Readers of this thread might be interested in the map below. It was found at a flea market in Clermont-Ferrand over 20 years ago, which combined with the hand-written annotations give it as the former property of a member of the CEO. There's no name or unit markings so unfortunately it's earlier provenance is unknown. It's a cut-down of sheet 1 of the British 1:40,000 series produced in 1915 from 1-inch sheets of 1908, which themselves were taken from a French survey made during the Crimean War in 1854. There are online copies here. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_Gallipoli_scale_1-40000_War_Office_map_683_c_1915.jpg Apart from being wonderfully worn and grubby its most interesting features are the hand drawn tactical markings in black ink, which I've tried to show in close up. I'm convinced that these were made on the spot, contemporary with events. I'm no expert whatsoever in this campaign so perhaps readers could add some insights? In the squares around 169, 170, 176 and 177 there are markings which I guess relate to the battles of Kereves Dera/Krithia. There appear to be defensive lines of some sort, a perimeter around Achi Baba, a row of 3 circles with a cross (a bit like an OS church symbol) and a gun position marked by a line with short dashes either side, like an arithmetic division sign. Around 186, 187, 194, 195 there are more defences, eg to the west of Saghon Dere. Also the words '450 teites'. I guess 450 is a height but what is a teites? To the SW of 186 there are '4 batteries de long' which I assume means the 120mm L modele 1878, of which the CEO had a unit commanded by Capitaine Delval. 'Toits retrenchements' at the top of 195. 4 more 'longs' on the left edge of 187. 'Redoutes' in square 204. The numeral 4 appears in several places, perhaps the 4th something? In square 184, two guns near point 472, in the road. And another gun in the sea, lower left? I didn't think the French sector extended this far north? More guns in 178. Anyway, lots of mysteries there, any help to put context to them would be much appreciated. Thank, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 8 December , 2019 Share Posted 8 December , 2019 Hi John, great map ! thank you for sharing it. It might belonged to a soldier of the 175ème Regiment d'Infanterie which fought in the Dardanelles. One of the bases of the regiment was at Riom, not far from Clermont-Ferrand. Who knows... Sly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted 8 December , 2019 Share Posted 8 December , 2019 Thanks for the suggestion Sly. I'll have a look in the 175's war diary. I'm wondering if the owner was an artilleryman, he marked in lots of allied guns which might have been of less interest to an infantryman. Regards, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 14 December , 2019 Share Posted 14 December , 2019 An annecdote from the diary of Joseph Murray of the RND (republished as 'Gallipoli 1915' by Cerberus in 2004 ISBN 1 84145 047 2) Monday, 21st June 1915 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 27 June , 2020 Share Posted 27 June , 2020 (edited) This thread started off with a question about the French at Gallipoli, with a particular focus on the Tirailleurs Sénégalais. Below is a list of some French soldiers that were awarded the Distinguished Conduct Medal. The source of the data is War Office List 1A. Whilst the primary source and its reference is WO 388/6/5, I have used the secondary source of Howard Williamson's book. (The Distinguished Conduct Medal Awarded to The Allied Armies by The British Government) I cannot determine the ethnicity of Calixte Dodni. Whilst the former is a popular French forename, the latter is understood to be an Indian surname. I was unable to locate a <<matricule militaire>> for him. Of the men listed below, I would guess that Baba, Piau and Suleyman were Tirailleurs Sénégalais. [content now moved to separate post] Soldat Jean Calas, 54e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Sergent Calixte Dodni, 54e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Adjudant Bonaventure Lafont, 54e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Sergent François Pietri 54e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Caporal Victor Ruellan, 54e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Soldat Jean Varengo, 54e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Soldat Makasson Baba, 56e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Sergent Ferdinand Dombel, 56e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Sergent Antoine Farges, 56e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Sergent Emile Luguern, 56e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Caporal Piau Piau, 56e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Sergent Jean Marie Suzanne, 56e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Soldat Philippe Vidal, 56e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Caporal Louis Charlet, 57e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Sergent-Major Henri Ducay, 57e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Caporal Marcel Lebrasseur, 57e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Sergent Walter Mohr, 57e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Adjudant Denis Rigoud, 57e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Sergent Lucien Roulet, 57e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Sergent Fourrier Louis Frédéric Seitz, 57e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Sergent Jules Andarelli, 58e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Soldat Germain Barrau, 58e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Soldat Henri Daudet, 58e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Sergent-Fourrier Henri Raffin, 58e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Sergent Sidibe Suleyman, 58e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Soldat Jean Pierre Tirefort, 58e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Caporal Louis Vastel, 58e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale The 54e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale, originally known as the 4e Régiment Mixte Coloniale, was 2 battalions of Tirailleurs Sénégalais and a battalion of Infanterie Coloniale, the latter being caucasian Frenchmen. It was the same for all four of these regiments listed above in this post. Edited 27 June , 2020 by Keith_history_buff content now moved to separate post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 27 June , 2020 Share Posted 27 June , 2020 From the same source, here is a list of men from the two Metropolitan Army infantry regiments that were at Gallipoli, who arrived freshly kitted out in the new horizon blue uniform. There are some pictures of the 175e in the trenches at Gallipoli that are in the IWM collection, the troops being merely 30 yards apart from the Turkish infantry. I am a bit puzzled by their presence. I had understood these units were manned in peacetime by conscripts, and were not to serve overseas, just like the Territorial Force of the British Army. Presumably some law was passed that allowed units of France's Metropolitan Army to serve overseas during the "current" conflict. Sergent Louis Ballot, 175e Régiment d'Infanterie Adjudant Roger Barrau, 175e Régiment d'Infanterie Médécin Auxilaire Charles Chabrut, 175e Régiment d'Infanterie Sergent Louis Dillet, 175e Régiment d'Infanterie Soldat Alexandre Horrerau, 175e Régiment d'Infanterie Soldat Pascal Madray, 175e Régiment d'Infanterie Caporal Jean-Baptiste Moine, 175e Régiment d'Infanterie Sergent Jean Richard, 175e Régiment d'Infanterie Sergent Raphael Anazan, 176e Régiment d'Infanterie Adjudant Basile Casta, 176e Régiment d'Infanterie Sergent-Major Antoine Chastrusse, 176e Régiment d'Infanterie Caporal Pierre Dumartin, 176e Régiment d'Infanterie Soldat Auguste Goug, 176e Régiment d'Infanterie Soldat Maurice Hommet, 176e Régiment d'Infanterie Soldat Jean Sérandour, 176e Régiment d'Infanterie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 27 June , 2020 Share Posted 27 June , 2020 (edited) Listed below are the men of the one battalion of Foreign Legion and the five Zouave battalions, taken from the same source as earlier, who were awarded the Distinguished Conduct Medal.The Foreign Legion were classified as <<Infanterie Coloniale>> for service in the colonies, along with the other units of Infanterie Coloniale (manned by caucasian Frenchmen). (The nearest concept in the English speaking world would be the European Infantry regiments that existed prior to 1858 with the Honourable East India Company.) [Correction: Foreign Legion were classified as <<Armée d'Afrique>> and not as <<Infanterie Coloniale>>, even though their deployment was not limited to Africa] The Zouaves were primarily made up of caucasian Frenchmen too, and were part of the <<Armée D'Afrique>>, along with numerous units of Tirailleurs Indigenes. (There does seem to be a frequent misunderstanding among English speakers that <<Infanterie Coloniale>> must be locally recruited in the various colonies.) Adjudant Billarou, 1e Régiment de marche d'Afrique Sergent Major Léon Boé, 1e Régiment de marche d'Afrique Soldat Henri Bonamy, 1e Régiment de marche d'Afrique Soldat Edmond Castel, 1e Régiment de marche d'Afrique Soldat Albert Cohen, 1e Régiment de marche d'Afrique Soldat 2e Classe Jean Mangion, 1e Régiment de marche d'Afrique Sergent Louis Mayer, 1e Régiment de marche d'Afrique Soldat Antoine Siutes, 1e Régiment de marche d'Afrique Soldat Alexandre Auzeby, 2e Régiment de marche d'Afrique Sergent Louis Barbier, 2e Régiment bis de marche de Zouaves Soldat Georges Cormary, 2e Régiment de marche d'Afrique Soldat Pierre Larosa, 2e Régiment de marche d'Afrique Adjudant Chef Eugène Moris, 2e Régiment de marche d'Afrique Adjudant Chef Paul Pantin, 2e Régiment de marche d'Afrique Adjidant Chef Maurice Pommert, 2e Régiment de marche d'Afrique Caporal Georges Vincente, 2e Régiment de marche d'Afrique Edited 28 August , 2020 by Keith_history_buff strikethrough and red font to record amendment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 27 June , 2020 Share Posted 27 June , 2020 The following men are also understood to have been decorated with the Distinguished Conduct Medal for Gallipoli. (These were inadvertently posted in a prior post.) I may well be mistaken in my identification (or otherwise) of pertinent units. Sergent Ambroise Marius Bœuf, 4e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale Caporal Marie Guegou, Etat-Major du 2e Brigade Coloniale Sergent Albert Samuel Naquet, Etat-Major de la 4e Brigade Gendarme Jean Henri Ourliac, Prévôté de la 2e Division Caporal Maurice Souchet, Cie des miltraileuses de la 4e Brigade Maréchal des Logis Trémeau, Prévôté de la 1er Division Maréchal des Logis Vigier, Train de Quartier Général de la 1er Division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apwright Posted 27 June , 2020 Share Posted 27 June , 2020 2 hours ago, Keith_history_buff said: I cannot determine the ethnicity of Calixte Dodni. Whilst the former is a popular French forename, the latter is understood to be an Indian surname. I was unable to locate a <<matricule militaire>> for him. "Dodni" must be Calixte DODANE. His matricule is here:http://archives.haute-marne.fr/viewer/series/FRAD052_R1648_01?img=FRAD052_R1648_01_374.JPGhttp://archives.haute-marne.fr/viewer/series/FRAD052_R1648_01?img=FRAD052_R1648_01_375.JPG (Hit the "HD" button!) Under "Blessures, citations" it confirms that he was awarded the "Medaille de la conduite distinguée, décoration anglaise", but doesn't say when. It says he was sergent from 21.2.1915 and was with 54e RIC from 22.5.1915 to 28.2.1915 [sic, obviously an error for 1916 or '17]. Then promoted to adjudant in 1918. Hope this helps! Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 27 June , 2020 Share Posted 27 June , 2020 Thank you Adrian, much appreciated. It's always good to cross-reference names on lists, to determine that the correct spelling has been recorded. I have been struggling with the composition of the French artillery units. On 23/11/2019 at 11:45, michaeldr said: As Keith's OoB is undated, I assume that it is for April 1915 (?) Also of possible interest is that for August 1915, given below per the British Official History, Military Operations, Gallipoli Vol.II, Corps Expéditionnaire d'Orient Commander: General Bailloud 1st Division: General Brulard 6 Batteries of Artillery (75mm) 2 Batteries of Artillery (65mm) 2nd Division: 9 Batteries of Artillery (75mm) Corps Artillery: 1 Heavy Battery, 120mm, long (4.7-inch) 1 Heavy Battery, 155mm, long (6-inch) 2 Heavy Batteries, 155mm, short (6-inch) 2 Siege guns, 240mm (9.4-inch) Battery of naval guns I have the following among those nine batteries of the 2nd Divisional Artillery 1 groupe de 75 [46e batterie] du 17e régiment d'artillerie de mars 1915 à juillet 1917 1 groupe de 75 [43e batterie] du 47e régiment d'artillerie de mars 1915 à janvier 1916 1 groupe de 75 du 25e régiment d'artillerie de mars à juin 1915 1 groupe de 75 du 2e régiment d'artillerie de juin 1915 à janvier 1916 There's a medal to an Able Seaman of the Batterie de 14e de Marine which I understand to be Navy proper rather than of the <<Troupes de Marine / Coloniale>> establishment. From this body of men, there is the 3e Régiment d'Artillerie Coloniale commanded by Capitaine Marcel Charles Trocme, whose surname appears on the artillery map plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 27 June , 2020 Share Posted 27 June , 2020 (edited) The 1st Division's artillery appears to be: The 47ème & 48ème batteries of the 2e Régiment d'Artillerie de Montagne, equipped with 65mm guns. Three batteries of 1er Régiment d'Artillerie coloniale de Campagne (31e, 32e & 33e batteries) Three batteries of 8e Régiment d'Artillerie coloniale de Campagne (also 31e, 32e & 33e batteries, confusingly) With effect from 1 April 1917, they were to become the 1er Groupe and 2e Groupe respectively of the 201e Régiment d'Artillerie coloniale de Campagne of 6 batteries. Source: trawls of francophone forum pages 14-18 by a non-native speaker of French, powered by caffeine. Edited 5 July , 2020 by Keith_history_buff Campagne and not coloniale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 28 June , 2020 Share Posted 28 June , 2020 (edited) Further information2nd Divisional Artillery1 groupe de 75 [44e & 45e & 46e batterie] du 17e régiment d'artillerie coloniale de Campagne de mars 1915 à juillet 19171 groupe de 75 [41e & 42e & 43e batterie] du 47e régiment d'artillerie coloniale de Campagne de mars 1915 à janvier 19161 groupe de 75 du 25e régiment d'artillerie de mars à juin 19151 groupe de 75 [41e & 42e & 43e batterie] du 2e régiment d'artillerie coloniale de Campagne de juin 1915 à janvier 1916 Source of above data, plus greater detail on the heavier artillery of the Corps:https://forum.pages14-18.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=51852&p=535718#p535718 Edited 5 July , 2020 by Keith_history_buff Campagne and not coloniale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 28 June , 2020 Share Posted 28 June , 2020 (edited) Some artillerymen awarded the Distinguished Conduct Medal, source is War Office List No 1A, as before. Maréchal des logis Robert Bassaget, 17e Régiment d'Artillerie 46e batterie Adjudant Louis Lombard, 17e Régiment d'Artillerie Brigadier Raymond Parisel 17e Régiment d'Artillerie 45e batterie Maréchal des Logis Henri Loir, 47e Régiment d'Artillerie Maréchal des Logis Camille Brouillet, 2e Régiment d'Artillerie coloniale de Campagne 41e batterie Adjudant Alfred Joseph Abraham, 8e Régiment d’Artillerie 31e batterie Trompette Albert Gouezou, 8e Régiment d’Artillerie 32e batterie Cannonier Oursin Orsini, 2e Régiment d'Artillerie de Montagne Maréchal des logis Jean-Baptiste Santarelli, 2e Régiment d'Artillerie de Montagne Cannonier 2e Classe Jules Gustave Verrot, 2e Régiment d'Artillerie de Montagne Adjudant Pierre Laurelli, 48e Régiment d’Artillerie 56e batterie Cannonier 1er Classe Louis Raveau, 48e Régiment d’Artillerie 56e batterie Cannonier 2e Classe Jean Clément, 10e Régiment d'Artillerie à Pied Maréchal des Logis Charles Guérin Donati, 10e Régiment d'Artillerie 51e batterie Edited 5 July , 2020 by Keith_history_buff Campagne and not coloniale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 28 June , 2020 Share Posted 28 June , 2020 To conclude, various personnel of the C.E.O. awarded the Distinguished Conduct Medal, source is War Office List No 1A, as before. Adjudant Eugène Aepidius Bellivier, Intendance du Corps Expéditionnaires Français d'Orient Adjudant André Brezillon, Escadrille MFT 98 du Corps Expéditionnaires Français d'Orient Caporal Jean-Louis Caillau, Etat-Major du Corps Expéditionnaires Français d'Orient Infirmier Henri Chevrier, Ambulance No 4 du Corps Expéditionnaires Français d'Orient Soldate de 1er Classe Gilbert Gaume, Compagnie de Miltrailleuses 3e Brigade du Corps Expéditionnaires Français d'Orient Sergent Major Eugène Giraud, Compagnie 5/15 du Génie du Corps Expéditionnaires Français d'Orient Sapeur Mineur René Granier, Compagnie 4/15 du Génie du Corps Expéditionnaires Français d'Orient Quartier-Maître de timonerie Joseph Le Boulanger, Batterie de 14e de Marine du Corps Expéditionnaires Français d'Orient [able seaman of gunnery, Navy] Sergent Louis Lefort, Ambulance No 2 du Corps Expéditionnaires Français d'Orient Maître-ouvrier Georges Charles Malbouvier, Compagnie 5/14 du Génie du Corps Expéditionnaires Français d'Orient Sergent Dominique Mattei, Génie de la 1er Division du Corps Expéditionnaires Français d'Orient Maître-pointeur Albert Payen, Batterie de canons de 58 [mortier?] du Corps Expéditionnaires Français d'Orient Sergent Jules Renon, Intendance du Corps Expéditionnaires Français d'Orient Caporal Alfred Louis Revaud, Escadrille MFT-98 du Corps Expéditionnaires Français d'Orient Sergent Thomas, Prévôté du QG du Corps Expéditionnaires Français d'Orient Infirmier Victor Vaidy, Ambulance No 1 du Corps Expéditionnaires Français d'Orient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 29 June , 2020 Share Posted 29 June , 2020 As a penultimate post, there is a similar listing of D.C.M. recipients. The same published secondary source and the same primary source are from whence the material has come. War Office List No 10 Dated 22 May 1917 Awards associated with Gallipoli BARANTON, Cannonier Servant Auguste Alexandre, 1er Régiment d'Artillerie EAUZY, Sergent Prosper, 10e Bataillon Territoriale de Zouaves FONTENELLE, Cannonier Servant Jules, 47e Régiment d'Artillerie GRANGE, Maréchal des Logis Jean-Marie, 47e Régiment d'Artillerie Coloniale 43e batterie LAIBE, Maréchal des Logis Armand, 47e Régiment d'Artillerie Coloniale 43e batterie MOUILLESSAUX, Maréchal des Logis Jules, 47e Régiment d'Artillerie Coloniale 43e batterie NAUDOT, Maréchal des Logis Adrien, 47e Régiment d'Artillerie Coloniale 43e batterie Other (included for completeness) CAUX, Brigadier Louis Léon, 11e section d'Auto-Canons de 75 (16 May 1916 0144/4390) DAGUZAN, Brigadier Louis Léon, 11e section d'Auto-Canons de 75 (16 May 1916 0144/4390) DEVALS, Soldat de 1er Classe Martial Edmond Justin, 19e Escadron de Train des Equipages Militaires ( March 1917 68/121/179) GILET, Brigadier Téléphoniste Benoît, 2e Groupe du Régiment d'Artillerie (23 Apr 1916 0144/4390) PINTO, Brigadier Interprète Carlo (4 May 1917 0137/2764) SIMON, Sergent Louis Octave, Service Aéronautique de l'Armée ( 1916 0144/4390) Williamson also mentions Second Maître de Manoeuvre GUILLAS in the other (non-Gallipoli) subcategory of the list. Also contained within War Office List No 10, there are a number of C.E.O. recipients of the Military Medal, but they specifically relate to Salonika, and are outside of the scope of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 29 June , 2020 Share Posted 29 June , 2020 To conclude, a while ago, the following English language book got a mention, following an updated edition being published in 2019 RELUCTANT PARTNER The Complete Story of the French Participation in the Dardanelles Expedition of 1915 Author : George H Cassar Hardback Helion & Company 245mm x 170mm 256 pages 24 b/w photos, 10 b/w maps https://www.helion.co.uk/military-history-books/reluctant-partner-the-complete-story-of-the-french-participation-in-the-dardanelles-expedition-of-1915.php Owing to an oversight, there was a delay in publishing the book review via Facebook, which was then done on 3 May. The book reviewer is Peter Hart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 30 June , 2020 Share Posted 30 June , 2020 Some further corrections to names, as provided by my contact on Forum PAGES 14-18. It always makes a difference when a native speaker is able to cross-reference a list, and identify corrections. 1) Soldat Auguste Alphonse Goug, 176e Régiment d'Infanterie 2) Caporal Joseph Marie Guegou, Etat-Major du 2e Brigade Coloniale 3) Caporal Edouard Piau, 56e Régiment d’Infanterie Coloniale 4) Sergent Lucien Henri Roulet, 57e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale 5) Soldat Antoine Sintes, 1e Régiment de Marche d'Afrique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 10 July , 2020 Share Posted 10 July , 2020 On 23/11/2019 at 11:45, michaeldr said: As Keith's OoB is undated, I assume that it is for April 1915 (?) Also of possible interest is that for August 1915, given below per the British Official History, Military Operations, Gallipoli Vol.II, I had put together a response to answer the very specific question on Tirailleurs Sénégalais, and was not looking to quote chapter and verse as to all and sundry of the French units. Forum pal Alantwo, who has an excellent map of French artillery in the 8th post on this thread, has put me on to the Order of Battle being within the various enclosures to the war diary. If you are interested, the order of battle as at 1 June 1915 is contained within five jpg images. The document is marked in pencil as "P.K.34" The enclosures to the war diary, including the aforementioned order of battle, are in the file 26 N 75/10 Pièces justicatives 3 avril-16 septembre 1915 Of the 213 images, it is 132 to 136 that contain the pertinent info. It provides some clarity with regard to the four squadrons of cavalry. Some of these men, with their light coloured jackets, would appear to have been misidentified as Zouaves, and not as Chasseurs d'Afrique, in IWM image Q 13231 which appears in post 65 of this thread. (Caption: 'Men ..... seen in camp at Sedd el Bahr, sorting out salvaged kit and equipment.') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 17 July , 2020 Share Posted 17 July , 2020 The original post of this thread did ask as to what happened to those men of the Tirailleurs Sénégalais after Gallipoli. The simple answer is that they all ended up in France in 1916. The explanation is somewhat more complex. 8e BTS and 12e BTS had been in the 7e Régiment Mixte Colonial. This formation was renamed on 16 August 1915 as the 57e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale. The composition of the regiment was changed on 11 December 1915, so it comprised 8e BTS and 12e BTS and a third battalion of troops from 1er BTS and 2e BTS, comprised wholly of Tirailleurs and losing its "mixte" nature. The regiment left Gallipoli for Lemnos on 12 December 1915. The regiment disembarked at Toulon on 5 May 1916. The constituent battalions were renumbered as 66e BTS, 67e BTS, 70e BTS. The regiment deployed to the western front from the 5th June 1916 to 27 October 1916. On the 10th July 1916, 70e BTS left the regiment and was replaced by 64e BTS. 7e BTS had been in the 8e Régiment Mixte Colonial. This formation was renamed on 16 August 1915 as the 58e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale. The composition of the regiment was changed on 10 December 1915, so it comprised 7e BTS and also 3e BTS and 4e BTS, comprised wholly of Tirailleurs and losing its "mixte" nature. The regiment was gradually withdrawn from Gallipoli to Lemnos from 16 December 1915 to 6 January 1916. On 22 May 1916, the constituent battalions were renumbered as 1er BTS, 68e BTS, 69 BTS. (I have an unsourced note that 7e BTS became 68e BTS.) As at 18 June 1916, the regiment left Fréjus, to join the 2e Division d'Infanterie Coloniale in the 1er Corps d'Armée Colonial. They deployed near Fontaine-lès-Cappy on 25 June 1916, and subsequently took part in the Battle of the Somme. The reconstituted 54e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale left Gallipoli for Lemnos on the night of 1-2 January 1916, and the reconstituted 56e Régiment d'Infanterie Coloniale had been at Mytilene since 1 January 1916. Both regiments would take part in the Salonika campaign. The history of the 54e makes particular reference to how the Tirailleurs were suffering during the cold spell, as mentioned in post #57 of this thread. Perhaps this explains why the regiments were reorganised in December 1915, so as to allow the practice of "wintering" to take place in future?Historique du 57e régiment d'infanterie coloniale pendant la Grande guerreHistorique du 58me regnt d'infanterie coloniale pendant la grande guerre 1914-1918Historique du 54e régiment d'infanterie coloniale : 1914-1918Historique du 56e régiment d'infanterie coloniale : présentement 6e régiment mixte d'infanterie coloniale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 5 August , 2020 Share Posted 5 August , 2020 My original intention was to look at some of the details on the Tirailleurs Sénégalais, but it is not straightforward. Given that their battalions were grouped in various régiments de marche, each of which as two names, they are associated with these, rather than being listed as Tirailleurs Sénégalais. It is probably easiest to perform searches on the MdH website, doing searches by a given nationality, for a given year or for given months, and dying in specific countries. I ended up going down a rabbit hole, by finding a similar issue with the 1er Régiment de Marche d’Afrique. For the men of the Foreign Legion battalion, I did find some clues as to these men via the mémorialgenweb domain. This is a great site, crowdsourced by volunteers, that I can tell, and in some ways superior to the MdH site. In terms of determining which men of the 1er RMA were in the Legion battalion, versus in the other two battalions that were made up of Zouaves, the one pointer is to try and determine who is not French-born. MdH has a card for each fatality. I do not know the correct designation, so I will nickname it the "mortality index card." When these MICs were completed for men of the Legion that died at Gallipoli, what I am seeing on the card is "1er Régiment de Marche d’Afrique - Bon de Légion." When I look at a card for a Zouave, it does not have the equivalent of the suffixed notation that I have marked in blue font. The bad news is that this is not recorded and indexed on the MdH site. The good news is that this does appear within the greater results set when a search is done on the mémorialgenweb domain. I was initially able to manually source some interesting data from the mémorialgenweb domain. I have then gone through the MdH results, to look at not French-born fatalities, and identify more men of the legion. Below is the data that I have been able to source. I have no interest in corrections, additions etc, but hope it is of interest to forum Pals. Any mistakes are mine. The cards also record place of enlistment, year of conscription, regimental service number, place of death, nature of death. Officers of the French Foreign Legion, listing of "Monument aux Morts de la Légion Etrangère"Link to the memorial's page on mémorialgenwen Date Rank Forename Surname 21-Jun-1915 Sous-lieutenant Pierre BECK 05-Jun-1915 Sous-lieutenant Charles Pierre Léonard CAUMER 11-May-1915 Lieutenant Henri Joseph Guillaume DE BONET D'OLÉON 12-Jul-1915 Capitaine Louis Eugène DEVIRIEUX 28-Apr-1915 Sous-lieutenant Arcade Dominique DUFRENE 22-Jun-1915 Sous-lieutenant Ferdinand Auguste GRÉGOIRE 02-May-1915 Adjudant-chef Paul Eugène JACQUOT 07-May-1915 Adjudant Célestin ROUSSEAUX 21-Jun-1915 [Swiss] Lieutenant Jules Louis SEILAZ 22-Jun-1915 Sous-lieutenant Jean Baptiste TAILLANTOU French citizens in the Foreign Legion who died during the Gallipoli campaign, as sourced via mémorialgenweb Legend URL - strightforward, link to mémorialgenweb entry Date - straightforward, date of death Feuille - the page number in the matricule militaire, or livre militaire for volunteers Birth Country - where they were born Département - where they were born URL Date Feuille Birth Country Département AHMED BEN MOHAMED Arbit 01-Sep-1915 LM74 Tunisia ANOM ALBRECH Nicolas 08-May-1915 945 France 54 – Meurthe-et-Moselle ALI-BEN-MOHAMED Ben Salah Ben Menaba 26-Jul-1915 LM6 Tunisia ANOM AOUDJEHOUT Mohamed Ben Mohamed 02-Jul-1915 LM119 Algeria ANOM ARIAS Jean Marie Baptiste 14-Jul-1915 LM202 France 31 - Haute-Garonne BARBOT Jean 28-Apr-1915 956 France 16 – Charente BAUCHET Joseph Émile Louis 02-May-1915 1289 France 51 - Marne BEC Paul 02-May-1915 1109 France 11 – Aude BÉQUET Gabriel Léopold 02-May-1915 904 France 28 – Eure-et-Loir BERNARD François 04-May-1915 765 France 71 – Saône-et-Loire BESCOND Sébastien Marie 02-May-1915 3030 France 29 – Finistère BETTOLI Clément Martin 01-Jun-1915 LM780 Algeria ANOM BIZÉ Georges Armand 21-Jun-1915 694 France 75 - Paris (ex Seine) BONGRAIN Lucien Scipion Alexandre 31-May-1915 1363 France 83 – Var BOURLIER Georges Frédéric 21-Jun-1915 2980 France 25 – Doubs BOZZA Jean 22-Jun-1915 LM518 Algeria ANOM BRIAULT Georges Daniel 04-Jun-1915 47 France 86 – Vienne BRUERE Gustave Hippolyte 22-Jun-1915 LM273 France 68 – Haut-Rhin CALAME Henri Victor 23-Jun-1915 726 France 54 – Meurthe-et-Moselle CASANOVA Georges Antoine 21-Jun-1915 892 Algeria ANOM CATHELIN René Paul Émile 02-May-1915 1274 France 10 – Aube CERTAIN Pierre Marie François 12-Jul-1915 LM364 France 44 - Loire-Atlantique (ex Loire-Inférieure) CLAUDE Constant 22-Jun-1915 746 France 88 - Vosges COLOMBANI Don Charles 02-May-1915 2608 France 20 - 2B – Haute-Corse COQUELIN Charles Marie Eugène 31-May-1915 1535 France 39 – Jura CRISTOBAL Joseph Bicente 31-May-1915 LM99 France 11 – Aude CROGUENNEC Claude Marie Yves 01-Jun-1915 LM528 France 29 – Finistère DARDÉ Augustin Marius Antonin 03-May-1915 LM1643 France 81 – Tarn DAVIET Joseph Marie 13-Jul-1915 116 France 74 – Haute-Savoie DECKEUR Rémy Émile 22-Jun-1915 LM19 France 57 – Moselle DELBARRE Henri Armant Louis 21-Jun-1915 165 France 62 – Pas-de-Calais DELEURME Jean 23-Jun-1915 ST MALO France 31 - Haute-Garonne DEVERT Charlemagne 04-May-1915 1379 France 60 – Oise EMBAREK Ben Salah 28-Apr-1915 LM112 Morocco ANOM EVENO Maurice Gaston Pierre 02-May-1915 1059 France 76 - Seine-Maritime (ex Seine-Inférieure) EVRARD Joseph 02-May-1915 5048 France 59 – Nord FERRACCI Jean Baptiste 28-Apr-1915 477 France 20 - 2B – Haute-Corse FOISON Charles François Raimond 18-May-1915 916 France 14 – Calvados FONTAINE Émile Joseph Maurice 01-May-1915 LM19 France 86 – Vienne FREY Constant Arthur 05-May-1915 995 France 88 – Vosges FRIGENI André 02-May-1915 LM169 France 10 – Aube GARCIA Baptiste 28-Apr-1915 2702 Algeria ANOM GENEVAY Émile 31-May-1915 1096 France 69 – Rhône GINDRE Henri Stéphane 23-Jul-1915 LM146 France 01 – Ain GIRAUD Marcel René Gaston 28-Apr-1915 1275 France 26 – Drôme GOUET Paul François 04-Jun-1915 1041 France 14 – Calvados GUARDIOLA François 09-May-1915 LM286 Algeria ANOM GUENOUN Alfred 31-May-1915 1800 Algeria ANOM HIERF Jean Fernand 13-Jul-1915 232 France 33 – Gironde JORDANS Louis 21-Jun-1915 1005 France 54 – Meurthe-et-Moselle KNEIB Maxime 11-Jun-1915 LM156 France 54 – Meurthe-et-Moselle KOEHLER Charles 21-Jun-1915 973 France 75 - Paris (ex Seine) KOENIG Victor Henri 28-Apr-1915 LM964 Algeria ANOM KUFFLER René Célestin 02-May-1915 272 France 54 – Meurthe-et-Moselle LE BRECH Joseph Marie 24-Jun-1915 632 France 56 – Morbihan LE CORRE Maurice 02-May-1915 419 France 56 – Morbihan LE LAUSQUE Joachim Pierre Marie 03-May-1915 41 France 56 – Morbihan LEBRAT Édouard 30-Apr-1915 LM280 France 43 – Haute-Loire LEROY François Joseph 15-May-1915 134 France 56 – Morbihan LUCE Louis Gustave 28-Apr-1915 764 France 76 - Seine-Maritime (ex Seine-Inférieure) LUPINI Joseph Antoine 23-Jun-1915 LM552 France 20 - 2A – Corse-du-Sud MARCHE Maurice 26-Sep-1915 136 France 63 – Puy-de-Dôme MARTINEZ Mariano 04-Jun-1915 LM438 Algeria ANOM MARTINI Pierre Toussaint 28-Apr-1915 2125 France 201 – Corse-du-Sud MASSON Victor 22-Jun-1915 944 France 71 – Saône-et-Loire MAUJEAN Émile Célestin 06-Jun-1915 903 France 57 – Moselle MENARD Nicolas Lusignan 07-May-1915 598 France 33 – Gironde MERISKI François 06-May-1915 684 France 71 – Saône-et-Loire MEYER Louis 22-Jun-1915 1421 France 68 – Haut-Rhin MEYNARD Auguste Paul 28-Apr-1915 LM492 France 84 – Vaucluse MIESCH Auguste 28-Apr-1915 LM53 France 68 – Haut-Rhin MILON Ben Ahmed 04-Jun-1915 LM113 Morocco ANOM MOSCHT Auguste 02-May-1915 1299 France 67 – Bas-Rhin MOULIN François Joseph 28-Apr-1915 1876 France 69 – Rhône MULLER Jules Eugène 29-Jun-1915 LM1556 France 68 – Haut-Rhin NOIRET Jean Baptiste 02-May-1915 195 France 38 – Isère PAUL François Marie 28-Apr-1915 607 France 29 – Finistère PAVOINE Ernest Marie 07-May-1915 462 France 35 – Ille-et-Vilaine PELLENC Claudius Edmond 30-Apr-1915 28 France 05 – Hautes-Alpes PETERS François Xavier 31-May-1915 LM27 France 68 – Haut-Rhin PETRIMOLT Maurice Eugène Léon 06-May-1915 4322 France 91 – Essonne PIETRI Antoine Fassius 02-May-1915 1008 France 201 – Corse-du-Sud POURAGEAU Maurice 25-Aug-1915 968 France 16 – Charente REINHARDT Philippe 31-May-1915 219 France 57 – Moselle ROBERT Maxime Alexis Auguste Clément 24-Jul-1915 1778 France 37 – Indre-et-Loire RODRIGUES Joseph 22-Jun-1915 - Algeria ANOM ROGEL Joseph Marie 22-Jun-1915 949 France 56 – Morbihan ROGER Fernand Henri 03-May-1915 66 France 18 – Cher ROLLY Félix Henri Hyacinthe 02-Sep-1915 968 France 58 – Nièvre ROULER Benjamin 12-May-1915 743 France 69 – Rhône SANCHEZ Arthur Elentorio 31-May-1915 963 Algeria ANOM SANCHEZ Miguel 02-May-1915 773 Algeria ANOM SEBAN Joseph 30-Jun-1915 19 Morocco ANOM STEINMETZ Frédéric 29-Apr-1915 1360 France 67 – Bas-Rhin TESSIER Paul Joseph 09-May-1915 2184 France 30 – Gard THOMAS Henri 28-Apr-1915 83 France 58 – Nièvre TORRÈS José 08-May-1915 153 Algeria ANOM TROTOBAS Marius 31-Jul-1915 223 France 13 – Bouches-du-Rhône VEBERT Alphonse 22-Jun-1915 599 France 59 – Nord VINCENTELLI Don André 28-Apr-1915 1818 France 201 – Corse-du-Sud VOLLMER Jean Camille 16-May-1915 LM59 France 68 – Haut-Rhin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 5 August , 2020 Share Posted 5 August , 2020 Non-French citizens in the Foreign Legion who died during the Gallipoli campaign, as sourced via mémorialgenwebLegendURL - straightforward, link to mémorialgenweb entryDate - straightforward, date of deathFeuille - the page number in the matricule militaire, or livre militaire for volunteers. In many instances, the number has a "LM" prefixBirth Country - where they were bornDépartement - where they were born. Where the card indicates they have become naturalised French citizens, I have added their place of registration URL Date Feuille Birth Country Département AICH Marcel Gustave 07-Mar-1915 LM312 Tsarist Russia - ALBANTIS Anastase 11-Oct-1915 - Indéterminé - ALLARA Hugo 28-Apr-1915 LM722 Italy - ANGERETTI Livio 02-May-1915 LM146 Italy - ANZINI Domenico Francesco Guiseppe 13-Jul-1915 LM1134 Italy - ARAMINI Alexandre 20-Aug-1915 LM210 Italy - ARBONA André Henri 01-May-1915 LM540 Italy - ARICO Santo 22-Jun-1915 LM529 Italy - ATHILLYO Frescati 03-May-1915 111 Italy - AZZURINI Piétro 28-Apr-1915 LM350 Italy - BALADI Henri Ludovic 22-Jun-1915 848 Ottoman Turkey - BANCIO Georges 28-Apr-1915 LM10852 Romania - BARNER Gottlieb Henri 24-Sep-1915 2405 Germany ANOM BAZ Victor 02-May-1915 LM353 Argentina - BEGUINI Louis 22-Jun-1915 LM252 Italy - BIENKOWSKI Pierre 01-May-1915 LM498 Tsarist Russia - BLEUZE Paul 28-Apr-1915 LM115 Belgium - BOIX Vincent 02-Sep-1915 LM211 Spain - BOLDO Salvador 05-Jun-1915 LM10 Spain - BORGEAUD Charles Abram 28-Apr-1915 LM18 Switzerland - BORNSTEIN Isaac 18-Jun-1915 LM6164 Tsarist Russia - BOSETTO Antonio 01-Jun-1915 LM336 Italy - CARMONA Manuel 28-Apr-1915 LM434 Spain - CERVERA Jean Baptiste 21-Jun-1915 LM910 Italy - CHRISTODOULOS Georges 27-Jul-1915 LM513 Greece - CICALE Procolo 21-Jun-1915 LM249 Italy - CONTU Félix 21-Jun-1915 LM141 Italy - CORDEY Félix 03-May-1915 2422 Switzerland - COTROUSOS Alexandre 24-Aug-1915 LM634 Greece - DENUET Étienne 18-May-1915 LM25 Belgium - DESSI Jean 18-May-1915 LM222 Italy - DIDAY Francis Alfred 22-Jun-1915 2294 Switzerland ANOM DUBROWSKY Wassily 28-Apr-1915 LM354 Tsarist Russia - EMPERAIRE Léon Cyprien Joseph 02-May-1915 LM85 Switzerland - FARAGITIS Theophanis 07-Aug-1915 LM1032 Greece - FONT-ANGEL ? 26-Jul-1915 LM30 Spain - FOSSATI Baptiste 20-Aug-1915 LM102 Italy - GARCIA Antoine 07-Apr-1915 LM810 Spain - GATTI Adrien 09-Jun-1915 LM164 Italy - GEILER Joseph 22-Jun-1915 LM2641 Tsarist Russia - GENTA Joseph 30-Jun-1915 LM447 Italy - GLODKOVSKI Félix 29-Apr-1915 LM184 Tsarist Russia - GRANDCHAMP Paul 02-May-1915 LM58 Switzerland - GRIVET Léon 02-May-1915 LM358 Switzerland - GROSKREUR Adolphe 11-Sep-1915 LM104 Germany - HAMMEL Walter 05-Sep-1915 LM129 Belgium - HUPPERT Ernest Heinrich Karl Friedick 27-Sep-1915 2344 Germany ANOM JADOLAWSKI Creslas 22-Jun-1915 LM10626 Prussia - JONCKX Théophile 02-May-1915 LM215 Belgium - JORET Émile Élisée 31-Jul-1915 LM72 Belgium - KOTOWENKO Nicephorus 28-Apr-1915 LM1911 Tsarist Russia - KUIPERS Guillaume Théophile 20-Aug-1915 LM21 Netherlands - LAMME Gaston Adrien 12-Jul-1915 1461 Belgium 59 – Nord LEFÈVRE Henri Louis 01-Jul-1915 16 Belgium 17 - Charente-Maritime (ex Charente-Inférieure) LIST Frantz 16-Jun-1915 LM548 Tsarist Russia - LONCKE Albert Michel Alfred 30-Apr-1915 LM651 Belgium - MACCARIO Pierre 02-May-1915 LM67 Italy - MAGNANI César 13-May-1915 LM274 Italy - MAILLOT Charles Constant Antoine 12-Jun-1915 LM64 Switzerland - MATHIEU Paul Louis Isidore 21-Jun-1915 LM147 Belgium - MERLA José Charles 12-May-1915 848 Spain ANOM MONTAVA José Maria 12-May-1915 31224 Spain ANOM MORTON James 25-Apr-1915 LM129 USA - ORTIS Jean 02-May-1915 LM368 Spain - PAPPACHARALAMBOU Panaghiotis 31-Aug-1915 LM247 Greece - PASQUALINI Abramo 21-Jun-1915 1294 Italy ANOM PORQUERAS Serres 28-Apr-1915 LM286 Spain - PRYTULA Théodore 19-Aug-1915 LM112 Tsarist Russia - QUARANTA Louis Mario 22-Jun-1915 LM987 Italy - REUS Jacques 02-May-1915 LM231 Spain - ROCHE Victor 16-Jul-1915 LM87 Belgium - RODRIGUEZ Antoine 22-Jun-1915 LM79 Spain - ROHNER Antoine 22-Jun-1915 - Switzerland - ROLLET Félix 02-Sep-1915 LM23 Belgium - ROSSET Ernest 28-Apr-1915 LM110 Switzerland - ROTONDO Nicolas 03-Jul-1915 LM463 Italy - ROULIER Georges Albert 22-Jun-1915 12455 Switzerland - RUIZ Vincent 13-Jul-1915 LM646 Spain SAÏDO Badouche 06-May-1915 - Indéterminé - SAIRO Marco 31-May-1915 - Indéterminé - SANCHEZ José 02-May-1915 428 Spain - SAVAKIS Michel 20-Aug-1915 LM1159 Greece - SCHUHMACHER Nicolas 03-May-1915 2306 Germany - SEDDA Giuseppe 28-Apr-1915 637 Italy - SIEGERT Paul 31-May-1915 10 Germany - SORDO Georges 31-May-1915 LM131 Italy - STRIGINI Laurent 09-May-1915 LM114 Italy - SURGER Édouard 02-May-1915 LM142 Switzerland - THOME Louis 13-Jul-1915 2377 Germany - TISSOT Charles 05-Jun-1915 LM213 Switzerland - TOKARSKI Charles 22-Jun-1915 228 Egypt - VENACORI Joseph 28-Apr-1915 7 Spain - WOLKRITH Boyès 28-Apr-1915 LM1702 Tsarist Russia - ZAÏDMANN Georges 21-Jun-1915 LM291 Tsarist Russia - ZENOUE Jean 26-Aug-1915 407 Switzerland - Non-French citizens in the Foreign Legion who died during the Gallipoli campaign, as sourced via Mémoire des Hommes (MdH) Link to MdH https://www.memoiredeshommes.sga.defense.gouv.fr/fr/arkotheque/client/mdh/base_morts_pour_la_france_premiere_guerre/index.php LegendSurnames - straightforward Forenames - straightforwardDate - straightforward, date of deathFeuille - the page number in the matricule militaire, or livre militaire for volunteers. In many instances, the number has a "LM" prefixBirth Country - where they were bornDépartement - where they were born. Where the card indicates they have become naturalised French citizens, I have added their place of registration Surname Forenames Date Feuille Birth Country Département ABRARDI François 22-Jun-1915 LM209 Italy - Aragones Jose 31-May-1915 LM6 Spain - ARMEDEA Pierre 22-Jun-1915 6323 Spain - BARDOU Genstaitin 31-May-1915 LM821 USA - BELAZ André Emile 07-May-1915 11198 Switzerland 75 - Paris (ex Seine) BERGMAN Pascal 21-Nov-1915 LM5 Sweden - BERNASCONI Victorio 22-Jun-1915 - Switzerland - BONETTI Baptiste 13-Jul-1915 LM177 Italy - BRISSIO Oreste 29-Apr-1915 212 Italy - BURCH Joseph Michel 02-May-1915 LM406 Switzerland - BURGHGRAEVE Louis 02-May-1915 LM18 Belgium - BUSQUETS Jacques Joseph Jean 06-May-1915 LM98 Spain - CALISSE Joseph 07-Jul-1915 LM465 Italy - CAMBY Gaston Joseph 31-May-1915 LM92 Belgium - CAPSIS Léandros 15-Jul-1915 LS156 Ottoman Turkey - CARLIER Antoine 22-Jun-1915 LM130 Belgium - CASTAGNO François Charles 31-May-1915 LM134 Italy - CATTANEO Alexandre 21-Jun-1915 LM318 Italy - CAVAGNA Michel Sylvio Sylvestre 28-Apr-1915 LM270 Italy - CIGRAND Jean Pierre 02-May-1915 2208 Germany 84 – Vaucluse CLAUSEN Jean Pierre 22-Jun-1915 LM57 Switzerland - CLEMENTI Césare 02-May-1915 LM708 Italy - CLEYMANN Aloïse Joseph Marie 02-May-1915 LM150 Belgium - COLMAIRE Marcel 21-May-1915 LM640 Belgium - CORBET Piedro Guiseppo Brigo 02-May-1915 2054 Italy ANOM CRETTAZ Pierre Joseph Jules 31-May-1915 LM488 Switzerland - CROITOR Smil Bet 28-Apr-1915 LM2682 Romania - DEFRANCESCO Daniel 20-Jun-1915 LM11219 Switzerland - DIAZ Francisco Santo 22-Jun-1915 LM727 Spain - DIMITRIOS Vloïtis 31-Aug-1915 LS1091 Ottoman Turkey - DIMITRIOU Georges 20-Aug-1915 LM1756 Greece - DOMBRET Paul 03-May-1915 LM46 Belgium - DOSSON Joseph Arthur 13-Jul-1915 3025 Switzerland 75 - Paris (ex Seine) DYSLI Otto 01-Jun-1915 LM226 Switzerland - EMO Philibert Martin 22-Jun-1915 LM249 Spain - FELIP Antoine 22-Jun-1915 LM578 Spain - FERNANDEZ Guillaume 20-May-1915 LM142 Spain - FERRON Jean Joseph 31-May-1915 1284 Germany - FURRER Hans 02-May-1915 LM151 Switzerland - GALIARDANI Lino 31-May-1915 LM167 Italy - GODEFROID Henri 28-Apr-1915 LM258 Belgium - GONCETH Charles Robert 24-Aug-1915 1354 Switzerland ANOM GRITTI Arthur Henri 21-Jun-1915 LM481 Italy - GROGNA Louis 07-May-1915 LM205 Belgium - GUFFINO Carlo 28-Apr-1915 LM56 Italy - GUILIANI Pietro Guiseppe 28-Apr-1915 LM178 Italy - HABRA Michel 21-Jun-1915 LM12 Italy - HAIM Leib 31-May-1915 LM2529 Romania - HARITAKIS Nicolas 10-Aug-1915 LM1021 Greece - HAUSNER Richard 05-Sep-1915 LM192 Germany - HEINTZ Pierre 09-Jun-1915 LM116 Luxembourg - HINKELMANN Otto 09-Aug-1915 LM152 Germany - HOFER Charles 02-May-1915 3050 Switzerland ANOM HOUBEN Romain 21-Jun-1915 LM116 Belgium - HURTER Jean Baptiste 31-Aug-1915 LM343 Switzerland - HUYBRECHTS Léopold 04-May-1915 LM321 Belgium - HUYSMANS Godfroid Jean 23-Jun-1915 LM3 Belgium 59 – Nord JEAN Albert 02-May-1915 LM1531 Ottoman Turkey - JOMINI Jean Louis Gérôme 02-May-1915 LM59 Switzerland - JON Alphonse 21-Jun-1915 LM89 Spain - JUGIEUX Jean Léon 26-Sep-1915 LM12 Belgium - KAPUSCHINSKI Joseph 26-Jul-1915 LM293 Tsarist Russia - KIPS Eugène Augustin Philippe Mathieu 04-May-1915 LM969 Belgium - KLIKA Eloi 10-Jun-1915 LM366 Czechoslovakia - KOLAR Maximilien 21-Jun-1915 LM248 Hungary - KOMISARENKO Fédor 02-May-1915 LM71 Romania - KSIBI Léon 23-Jun-1915 LM61 Italy - LABANCA François 31-May-1915 LM559 Italy - LANGER Pierre 13-Jul-1915 - Switzerland - LAVINA Candido 22-Jun-1915 LM957 Spain - LAZAROVICI Robert 22-Jun-1915 LM6010 Romania - LECERGA Joséph 02-May-1915 LM417 Spain - LECLER Honoré Jules Joseph 02-May-1915 LM537 Belgium - LECOMTE Louis 22-Jun-1915 2238 Belgium ANOM LEPEIRE Joseph 15-Jun-1915 LM52 Belgium - LETUPPE Jules 01-May-1915 LM148 Belgium - LEVERD Paul Léon 07-May-1915 LM391 Belgium - LONGHEVAL Ange 22-Jun-1915 LM204 Belgium - LORENZO Léandre 26-Aug-1915 LM51 Spain - LUDE Louis Frédéric Jules 13-Jul-1915 LM82 Switzerland - MARTINEZ François 24-Sep-1915 LM834 Spain - MATIGAKIS Joanès 07-Aug-1915 657 Greece - MATTYS Louis Felix 30-May-1915 LM19 Belgium - MELCHIOR Fernandez 13-Jul-1915 LM84 Spain - MENAZZI Charles 01-Jul-1915 LM303 Italy - MENAZZI Charles 01-Jun-1915 LM118 Italy - MONE Emile 22-Jun-1915 LM1098 Spain - MORA Camille 02-May-1915 LM924 Spain - MOUTAPHIS Antonios 11-Oct-1915 LM1019 Greece - MULLER Léopold 06-Jun-1915 LM211 Belgium - MUSSO Paul 07-May-1915 LM175 Italy - NICOLAIDI Nicolas 31-May-1915 LM735 Ottoman Turkey - NISOLI Luciano 22-Jun-1915 LM237 Italy - NOTO Edouard 08-May-1915 LM221 Italy - OPFER Friedrich 31-May-1915 2597 Germany ANOM PANI Giovanni 03-May-1915 LM638 Italy - OSCAR Pringuentini 27-Sep-1915 LM181 Austria - PAVKOVIC Spiro 17-Jun-1915 LM13 Austria ANOM PEREZ Michel 07-May-1915 LM919 Spain - PETRI Agastino Varsése Orésse 04-Jun-1915 1296 Italy ANOM PIGNOCCO Carlo 06-May-1915 LM292 Italy - PITON Alphonse 22-Jun-1915 LM300 Italy - POULALIER Alphonse 22-Jun-1915 LM956 Switzerland - PRAS Edouard dit Anillot 28-Apr-1915 LM325 Switzerland - PUCCI Carlo 06-May-1915 LM49 Italy - PUIG Jaime 04-Jun-1915 LM82 Spain - RADIN Tiziano 19-Sep-1915 LM596 Austria - RATZLAFF Robert Charles 22-Jun-1915 1466 Germany ANOM RISSOT François 22-Jun-1915 LM127 Italy - ROMANELLI Joseph 31-May-1915 LM84 Italy - ROSSI Elzerio 13-Jul-1915 LM571 Italy - SALI Joseph 31-May-1915 LM182 Italy - SALIS Antoinonio Raimondo 06-May-1915 LM90 Italy - SARTOR Piétro Antonio 22-Jun-1915 LM387 Italy - SAVIO Marco 31-May-1915 LM1519 Italy - SCHEUREN Joseph 12-Jul-1915 LM437 Luxembourg - SCHUHMACHER Trangott 22-Jun-1915 291 Switzerland - SEIBEL Joseph 31-May-1915 LM529 Switzerland - SENN Adolphe 09-May-1915 67 Switzerland - SENOR Assavis 22-Jun-1915 LM315 Italy - SERVAIS Alphonse Paul Ghislain 02-Apr-1915 LM196 Belgium - SILVIUS Louis François 20-Aug-1915 LM61 Switzerland - SORIANO Francisco Antonio 22-Jun-1915 LM210 Spain - SPERLICH François 13-Jul-1915 LM301 Tsarist Russia - SPONDA Louis 31-May-1915 LM176 Italy - STERGIOU Dinos 20-Aug-1915 - Indéterminé - TEISSON dit VALENTIN Louis Henri Valentin 08-May-1915 - Belgium - TEMPESTA Roger 31-May-1915 LM175 Italy - TENNEN Joseph 31-May-1915 LM7 Belgium - THEISEN Michel 28-Apr-1915 LM319 Luxembourg - THILL François Michel 07-May-1915 2276 Belgium ANOM TIROLO Frèderic 07-May-1915 LM401 Italy - TORAILLE Raoul 02-May-1915 LM494 Belgium - TSISTRAKIS Vasilios Basile 30-Aug-1915 LM644 Greece - TUBAU Marius 28-Apr-1915 LM51 Spain - UEHLIN Adolf 22-Jun-1915 2105 Germany ANOM VALCHET MARTINEZ Nèmésio 13-Jul-1915 2236 Spain ANOM VALLS Sebastien 04-Jun-1915 LM723 Spain - VANO Santo 02-May-1915 LM438 Italy - VERCELLI Jean 31-May-1915 LM498 Italy - VERNA François 07-Sep-1915 LM233 Italy - WODARCZAK Stéphan 07-Jun-1915 LM8394 Tsarist Russia - YAKOUBSOHN Heinrich 22-Jun-1915 LM6444 Tsarist Russia - ZAKARINK Iwan 25-Sep-1915 91 Tsarist Russia - ZARZEWSKI Abel 07-Aug-1915 LM3209 Tsarist Russia - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 8 August , 2020 Share Posted 8 August , 2020 French citizens in the Foreign Legion who died during the Gallipoli campaign, as sourced via Mémoire des Hommes (MdH) Link to MdH https://www.memoiredeshommes.sga.defense.gouv.fr/fr/arkotheque/client/mdh/base_morts_pour_la_france_premiere_guerre/index.php LegendSurnames - straightforward Forenames - straightforwardDate - straightforward, date of deathFeuille - the page number in the matricule militaire, or livre militaire for volunteers. In many instances, the number has a "LM" prefixBirth Country - where they were bornDépartement - where they were born. In addition, there is a Hatian and a Spaniard. Date Feuille Birth Country Département 09-May-1915 LM286 Algeria ANOM ALI BEN HASSEN Rahal 13-Jul-1915 LM15 Tunisia ANOM ARBONA André Henri 01-May-1915 LM540 Algeria ANOM AUGY Alfred 25-Aug-1915 573 France 18 – Cher BAILLEUL Victor Désiré Marius 27-May-1915 1255 France 50 - Manche BELGASSEM BEN MANSOUR ben Ali ben Smida 25-Sep-1915 LM71 Tunisia ANOM BELLA Juan 20-Aug-1915 LM269 Algeria ANOM BENITAH Moïse 22-Jun-1915 LM872 Morocco ANOM BERTSCH Georges 22-Jun-1915 LM2 France 67 – Bas-Rhin BESNIER Charles Edouard 26-May-1915 3078 France 29 – Finistère BLEUSE Auguste 28-Apr-1915 1954 France 59 – Nord BORDERIE François Damaze 28-Apr-1915 42 France 24 – Dordogne BOURGEY Louis Philippe 12-Jul-1915 LM499 France 01 – Ain BRIX Jules Henri 28-Apr-1915 503 France 86 – Vienne BROC Paul 09-Aug-1915 396 France 75 - Paris (ex Seine) BURGER Frédéric 22-Jun-1915 LM179bis France 67 – Bas-Rhin DEKYDSPOTTER Auguste Antoine 22-Jun-1915 LM42 France 75 - Paris (ex Seine) DEROUET Adolphe Eugène 02-May-1915 593 France 49 - Maine-et-Loire DOUSSET Jules Albert 31-May-1915 1425 France 10 – Aube DOZOL Joseph Louis 04-Jun-1915 2 France 06 – Alpes-Maritimes DUCOURTIOUX Lucien Emile 07-May-1915 France 75 - Paris (ex Seine) DUSSOS Gaston Auguste 31-May-1915 329 France 76 - Seine-Maritime (ex Seine-Inférieure) ECK Albert 20-May-1915 LM729 Algeria ANOM EVIN Eugène Félicien 04-Jun-1915 555 France 59 – Nord FAURE Théophile Charles Henri 14-Jul-1915 591 France 26 – Drôme FEVE Jean Baptiste 22-Jun-1915 1814 France 18 – Cher FEYCHER Georges Théodore 20-Aug-1915 478 France 76 - Seine-Maritime (ex Seine-Inférieure) FRUCTUOSO José 27-Mar-1915 636 Algeria ANOM GOULOT Henri Louis Julien 15-May-1915 570 France 02 – Aisne GUINAND Paul Louis 20-Aug-1915 LM232 France 75 - Paris (ex Seine) HEISSLER Auguste 22-Jun-1915 LM100 France 68 – Haut-Rhin JACQUOT Ernest Neil Adrien 22-Jun-1915 993 France 88 - Vosges JACQUOT Paul Eugène 02-May-1915 1015 France 70 – Haute-Saône JOVIN Guillaume Marie 02-May-1915 LM2689 France 22 - Côtes-d'Armor (ex Côtes-du-Nord) KREUTZENBERGER Auguste 22-Jun-1915 1452 France 57 – Moselle L'HOSTIS Pierre Marie 02-May-1915 2642 France 29 – Finistère LE COURTOIS Henry Toussaint 24-Jun-1915 1155 France 22 - Côtes-d'Armor (ex Côtes-du-Nord) LEVREY Adolphe Aimé 21-Jun-1915 217 France 75 - Paris (ex Seine) LOPEZ Sebastien 01-May-1915 2772 Algeria ANOM LOVERA Antonio Michel 28-Aug-1915 LM74 France 83 – Var LUCAS Francois Marie 04-Jun-1915 545 France 22 - Côtes-d'Armor (ex Côtes-du-Nord) MIEGE Hippolyte François 02-May-1915 1564 France 69 – Rhône OLLIVIER Emile Marius Fernand 28-Apr-1915 758 France 28 – Eure-et-Loir OMBREDANE Aurèle Auxile 28-Apr-1915 2100 France 45 – Loiret ORTIZ Louis 02-May-1915 LM541 Algeria ANOM PERROD Joseph Pierre 28-Apr-1915 LM12 France 73 – Savoie POCHER Jean Marie 28-Apr-1915 3753 France 29 – Finistère POISSON Louis Emile 31-May-1915 598 France 54 – Meurthe-et-Moselle PREVOST Raymond Marcel 19-May-1915 145 France 27 – Eure REGGIO Louis Dominique 13-Jul-1915 2258 France 06 - Alpes-Maritimes RIGAL Joseph Boniface 22-Jun-1915 2124 France 12 – Aveyron ROGEAT Louis Henri 11-Sep-1915 596 France 38 – Isère RUELLO Victor Marie 28-Sep-1915 619 France 56 – Morbihan SALAMONE Gaspard 06-May-1915 LM110 Tunisia ANOM TAILLANTOU Jean Baptiste 22-Jun-1915 423 France 64 - Pyrénées-Atlantiques (ex Basses-Pyrénées) TEITON René Henri 28-Apr-1915 LM526 France 87 – Haute-Vienne THAUVIN Louis Désiré 02-May-1915 202 France 45 – Loiret THIERRY Eugène Auguste 09-May-1915 LM80 France 70 – Haute-Saône TINEL Henri Gaston 22-Jun-1915 231 France 48 – Lozère TOXE Théophile Marie 28-Apr-1915 297 France 22 - Côtes-d'Armor (ex Côtes-du-Nord) VANSTEENE Victor Auguste Edouard 28-Apr-1915 597 France 59 – Nord VIROT Célestin Stephan 22-Jun-1915 183 France 39 – Jura VOGT Marcel Georges 28-Apr-1915 1064 France 72 – Sarthe LAGUERRE Théophile 01-Jun-1915 LM1436 Haiti - SALORD Salvador 24-Sep-1915 LM619 Spain - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 20 August , 2020 Share Posted 20 August , 2020 On 25/11/2019 at 19:50, michaeldr said: Phil, The British Official History, Gallipoli Vol.II gives the total French contribution as being 79,000, of whom 47,000 became casualties (killed, wounded & sick) regards Michael I keep seeing varying numbers for Gallipoli, and most of these numbers do not add up. I have seen a figure of French troop strength reaching a peak of 42,000 which sounds in line for 2 divisions of 24 battalions, four cavalry squadrons and various supporting elements of artillery and train. For a lot of the BEF infantry battalions in August 1914, they had a war establishment of 1,000 men, but you will see double that on the 1914 Star medal roll. Are there equivalent stats for the British at Gallipoli stating (i) establishment strength of unit and (ii) actual number of men who served at Gallipoli in that unit? 79,000 in two divisions sounds ludicrously high, but if you factor in those who were rotated out due to disease and wounds, it sounds plausible, as long as the ability to replenish losses is there. As I understand it, the figure of 18% of the French presence being Tirailleurs Sénégalais (seven battalions) is attributable to a calculation made in Jacques Frémeaux's 2006 book about the contribution of France's colonies during WW1. Did the revitalised book from Cassar shed any light on this? Are there french sources that corroborate what appears in English secondary sources? Thanks Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 21 August , 2020 Share Posted 21 August , 2020 Keith, Without going into this too deeply, my first impression is that the figure of 79,000 looks right, if it is for the whole campaign and not just for one specific moment in that campaign. Your figure of 42,000 is also given by Jean-Charles Jauffret in his paper (23 April 1996) reproduced in The Straits of War (Sutton Publishing Ltd., 2000: a collection of commemorative lectures given at Holy Trinity Church, Eltham). A peak of 42,000 was reached at about 4th May 1915, however, French casualties between 5th & 8th May were 246 officers & 12,632 men. 79,000 looks like the total employed during the whole campaign and I don't think that there is a suggestion that they were all there at one particular time. In the same way the figure given for the total Allied participation is 530,000. However Hamilton had no where near that number to call upon at any one specific time. ...................................................................................... This chap may well be of interest here James Waddell of Dunedin, New Zealand This article was linked to in a Kiwi newspaper and represents research by someone who was hoping to write a full biography of Waddell waddell-nz-article.pdf regards Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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