charlie962 Posted 19 August , 2018 Share Posted 19 August , 2018 There have been a number of threads recently enquiring about men who at some stage have served in the MGC. There are numerous threads that touch on likely dates of issue of ranges or particular service numbers in the MGC but they are scattered across the forum.. Is there a one-stop-shop thread or site that recapitulates this information ? Ive not seen anything on eg LLT or Armynumberblogspot . Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 19 August , 2018 Share Posted 19 August , 2018 1 hour ago, charlie962 said: There have been a number of threads recently enquiring about men who at some stage have served in the MGC. There are numerous threads that touch on likely dates of issue of ranges or particular service numbers in the MGC but they are scattered across the forum.. Is there a one-stop-shop thread or site that recapitulates this information ? Ive not seen anything on eg LLT or Armynumberblogspot . Charlie Not as far as I know - it may be project to create a thread with a list of numbers and dates - There can be ambiguity over the earlier numbers in my experience (those for men moved across via the battalion MG companies etc) but in general it holds true. If you want, I might be able to put something together in my spare time and get it posted. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 19 August , 2018 Author Share Posted 19 August , 2018 Lincspoacher has a thread running but the focus is on early transfers as I understand it. I just thought it would help us to have some sort of tabulation - group effort ? 5 hours ago, ss002d6252 said: in my spare time I don't understand this expression ? I you would like to start something off that would be great Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 19 August , 2018 Share Posted 19 August , 2018 Just now, charlie962 said: I don't understand this expression ? It's a strange and convoluted concept. Quote I you would like to start something off that would be great I've got an idea or two to look at. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 19 August , 2018 Author Share Posted 19 August , 2018 Don't forget that the LLT says this: The size of the MGC A total of 170,500 officers and men served in the MGC, of which 62,049 were killed, wounded or missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin kenf48 Posted 19 August , 2018 Admin Share Posted 19 August , 2018 (edited) The FMP search facility already provides a database. For a fee researchers can access the database initiated by the MGC Old Comrades Association http://www.machine-gun-corps-database.co.uk/intro_page.html A couple of general points, on formation of the Corps the first 3000 numbers were allocated to the Motor Machine Gun Corps, most 4 digit numbers were the existing machine gunners brigaded into Companies. When Grantham first opened the School was taking 3000 recruits each week. By 1916 this had fallen to slightly less than 500 a week, far fewer than the Army required, but still a rather large ‘spare time’ activity. Ken Edited 19 August , 2018 by kenf48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 19 August , 2018 Author Share Posted 19 August , 2018 Ken, Thanks. Very useful to know and one can always point relatives etc in that direction if they want specialist detail. But I am not going to spend 10 pounds each time I want to help someone else with their research. I would like just some broad indicator. I can always go to 'close' number service files (if there is indeed a reliable pattern ?) to get more precise detail. I note that if I tap in regiment "Machine Gun Corps" under Service Records on Ancestry I get over 33,000 hits. This ought to be a good source of info on allocation dates. Medal Rolls, SWB Rolls and CWGC/SDGW wont give exact allocation dates but may sometimes provide a bracket ? Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 19 August , 2018 Share Posted 19 August , 2018 What I have in mind is not to be an absolute record but an indicative of when numbers were issued by date - if an absolute is needed then further research obviously can be made to tie it down. It will of course need member assistance to build up details but it will be fully editable. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 19 August , 2018 Author Share Posted 19 August , 2018 Would the MGC OCA be prepared to give us any clues? Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin kenf48 Posted 19 August , 2018 Admin Share Posted 19 August , 2018 1 hour ago, charlie962 said: Ken, Thanks. Very useful to know and one can always point relatives etc in that direction if they want specialist detail. But I am not going to spend 10 pounds each time I want to help someone else with their research. I would like just some broad indicator. I can always go to 'close' number service files (if there is indeed a reliable pattern ?) to get more precise detail. I note that if I tap in regiment "Machine Gun Corps" under Service Records on Ancestry I get over 33,000 hits. This ought to be a good source of info on allocation dates. Medal Rolls, SWB Rolls and CWGC/SDGW wont give exact allocation dates but may sometimes provide a bracket ? Charlie A wild card search on near numbers on FMP will identify transfers into the Corps. As there were a minimum of around 500 a week if we take the MGOCA estimate of 15 % of other ranks records survive that’s around 50+ for each batch, but of course things aren’t that simple as the records did not survive the fire in such neat order. However a search shows 20k records (no doubt not complete) for 1916 alone. Officers records (over 4000) are at TNA. Identifying date of transfer into the MGC is not that difficult. The main difficulties occur when trying to establish original enlistment date and where they served. The ‘originals’ can be identified from the Medal Rolls and are generally grouped together under their original Battalion. Later, Companies were raised at Grantham and posted together the majority however were posted to the MGC Base Depot at Camiers before being posted to an active duty unit. Unfortunately the best sources for identifying a soldier’s unit online are if the soldier was killed, captured or more recently became a casualty. Not saying it can’t be done but the effort involved in creating a database probably reflects the charge for searching the database linked above. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulianB Posted 20 August , 2018 Share Posted 20 August , 2018 (edited) OK let me provide some numbering data for the 123 coy MGC. This unit was formed in Grantham in January 1916 as 181 Coy but was renumbered 123 on 13.06.1916 as they left Gramtham though they officially 'landed' in France on the 17th - the day their WD started. I have all these men in a database but have extracted only numbers and dates of joining the MGC (often from a former unit) and then joining 123 Coy. I have added a few items that might provide a TAQ or TPQ for their presence within the ranks. Needless top say, there are quite a few other names but for which I have no numbrs - gleaned from the various WD and OOs. This is still very much a work in progress and there might be glitches ommissions etc. The blue and red numbers here are only to show ‘runs’ Bold numbers are ‘probables’ Name No join MGC join 123 Coy KIA Baxter, CQMS, WHJ 4008 Hood, Sgt JW, 4942 CQMS 28.1.18. Fenton Pte. Horace E. 9112 Pumford, L/Cpl JH, 14394 KIA 7.6.17 Cooper, L/Cpl S 14557 Avis, Sgt, WJ, 16930 Fisher, CSM EW 18187 Oates, Sgt T, 20732 forms garrison 12.3.17 Parker, Pte T, 20823 KIA 12.8.17 *Horridge, Sgt J 27427 Sears, Pte HG, 28873 KIA 7.6.17 Keane, Sgt Roland 28876 Donohoe, L/Cpl J, 28877 KIA 10.6.17 Arliss, Pte C, 28969 (Artiss in SDGW !) KIA 26.9.17 Robson, Pte W, 28971 KIA 20.2.17 Baker, Cpl Joseph 28972 forms garrison 12.3.1917 Judson, Cpl T, 28976 DoW 24.9.16 Hands, L/Cpl JH, 28981 KIA 31.7.17 Thompson, Sgt Harry 289114 forms garrison 1. 3.1917 Scottorn, CQMS, JV, 29115 left for UK as a candidate for commission, 20.1.17. Barnes, Pte C, 29117 KIA 31.5.17 Booth, Pte F, 29119 KIA 23.9.17 *Spencer, Pte WH, 29122 KIA 19.1.17. George, Cpl JT, 29401 sent on AA course 18.1.17; KIA 21.2.17. Chandler, Pte HA, 29402 KIA 29.9.16 *Staveley, Pte L, 29407 KIA 15.9.16 *Muggeridge, Pte W, 30331 KIA 24.7.16 *Pratt, Pte RE, 30334 KIA 17.1.17 Davis, Pte T, 30336 KIA 29.11.16 Wren, Pte EA, 30338 KIA 1.10.16 Fisher, Pte C, 30343 KIA 7.6.17 Curtis, Pte E. 30356 Bridgewater, Pte CT, 30359 In hosp home October 1916. Steer, Pte JT, 30363 KIA 17.9.16 Gifford, Pte WT, 30366 KIA 28.5.17 Kershaw, Pte J, 39499 KIA 16.9.17 Moore, Sjt J 42808 Adair, Pte T, 43291 KIA 20.2.17 Whife, Pte E, 45351 KIA 28.5.17 Love, Pte FC, 45486 KIA 4.3.18 Stokes, Pte R, 45760 KIA 8.10.16 Woulidge, Cpl LB 45870 17.1.17; KIA 13.10.18. Hall, L/Cpl RC 45975 KIA 26.9.17 Nash, L/Cpl HA, 46308 KIA 31.7.17 Burrill, Pte A, 46309 KIA 7.6.17 Raines, Pte AE, 53513 KIA 22.6.17 Ralston, Pte J, 53566 2.03.16 05.10.16 KIA 28.5.17 Dawes, Pte PC, 64306 KIA 27.6.17 Hardman, Pte A, 64494 KIA 30.6.17 Brady, Pte JA, 68197 28.2.17; KIA 31.7.17 Armstrong, Pte. John 70902 Lumsden, Pte RW, 71921 KIA 26.7.17 Saunders, L/Cpl AC 72100 Walker, Pte T, 72125 KIA 1.8.17 Challinger, Pte R, 72126 DoW 9.10.17 Barker, Pte L, 72130 KIA 20.2.17 Arculus, Cpl LJW, 73586 KIA 24/25.7.17 Helliwell, Pte JT, 82486 KIA 28.6.17 Payne, Pte HJ, 85422 KIA 5.8.17 Evans, Pte. A.W.J. 87829 Weir, Pte A, 87850 KIA 27.9.17 Neville, Pte HA, 89352 KIA 26.9.17 Drinkall, Pte A, 89652 KIA 31.7.17 Phelps, Pte JW, 90077 KIA 31.7.17 Hancock, Pte JA, 97755 KIA 29.6.17 Morris, Pte A, 97761 KIA 26.9.17 Slack, Pte J 97764 16.06,1917. Dudderidge, Pte HO, 99973 KIA 26.9.17 Sexton, Pte SJ, 103460 KIA 24.9.17 Keighley, Pte. John F. 104026 Waters, Pte WH, 104269 KIA 24.9.17 Eyles, Pte TF, 104352 KIA 26.9.17 Barnett, Pte H 137034 28.2.17 Edited 17 July , 2022 by JulianB 181 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neill Gilhooley Posted 20 August , 2018 Share Posted 20 August , 2018 A small number of 9th Royal Scots dates... Serial No Date 32709 16-Apr-16 66225 19-Oct-16 68608 25-Nov-16 68876 24-Oct-16 172291 30-Jul-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 20 August , 2018 Share Posted 20 August , 2018 What I have done is created an accessible, on-line, database for details to be added. I have added some details for now by way of example but I think that, if people add further details, then we can have a viable list that will, if nothing else, assist in tying down dates - even if further research is then needed it gives a starting point. Please feel free to update and/or correct existing data. https://c1abt321.caspio.com/dp/c6396000b3b2cd94454e42e39713 (If it takes you to the search screen then by clicking on search (without adding any details) it will take you to the main list where records can be added and updated) Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 20 August , 2018 Author Share Posted 20 August , 2018 Good stuff. If someone enlisted direct to MGC or were conscripted to a training Bn and then trfd to an MGC Tr Bn then that seems clear straightforward. But when someone was in an infantry unit with previous service and they are transferred to MGC should one presume that they had previous experience in their own Bn MGC Co or in their Bde MGC Co under their infantry number ? ie at what stage in their involvement with MGs would they aquire an MGC number? Are there clear rules ? Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 20 August , 2018 Share Posted 20 August , 2018 18 minutes ago, charlie962 said: But when someone was in an infantry unit with previous service and they are transferred to MGC should one presume that they had previous experience in their own Bn MGC Co or in their Bde MGC Co under their infantry number ? ie at what stage in their involvement with MGs would they aquire an MGC number? Are there clear rules ? I looked at the 151st Bde's MGC a while a go and there was a reasonable level of attachment of men from the battalions who were never renumbered but once they were transferred then a new number followed in due course. It would only be at the point of transfer that they were formally MGC men (and numbers allocated). Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 20 August , 2018 Author Share Posted 20 August , 2018 Craig, thanks for the comment on issue date. looking at your database: I'm probably a bit idle to add all the prev unit detail etc ! I was noting whether it was a 'compulsory' transfer or otherwise but does this help? It might be worth indicating source of info so that someone else can look further if they want eg difference of opinion or just greater depth. Some sort of abreviation for Service Record (SR) and what about the odd PtII orders etc that come off FMP ? It is suprisingly easy to misread a date of trf on a Service Record ! Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 20 August , 2018 Share Posted 20 August , 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, charlie962 said: Craig, thanks for the comment on issue date. looking at your database: I'm probably a bit idle to add all the prev unit detail etc ! I was noting whether it was a 'compulsory' transfer or otherwise but does this help? It might be worth indicating source of info so that someone else can look further if they want eg difference of opinion or just greater depth. Some sort of abreviation for Service Record (SR) and what about the odd PtII orders etc that come off FMP ? It is suprisingly easy to misread a date of trf on a Service Record ! Charlie I would say the key is number and date of issue to identify the date of transfer - anything else is a bonus but records can be edited at any time to add extra details. I have added a 'source' field. Craig Edited 20 August , 2018 by ss002d6252 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 20 August , 2018 Author Share Posted 20 August , 2018 1 minute ago, ss002d6252 said: key is number and date of issue Yes, you are right, that is really all I wanted. 'Mission creep' would lead to duplicating MGCOCA project without ever getting there. Just wasn't sure what pattern was going to emerge and if any vital additional note might explain oddities. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin kenf48 Posted 20 August , 2018 Admin Share Posted 20 August , 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, charlie962 said: Good stuff. If someone enlisted direct to MGC or were conscripted to a training Bn and then trfd to an MGC Tr Bn then that seems clear straightforward. But when someone was in an infantry unit with previous service and they are transferred to MGC should one presume that they had previous experience in their own Bn MGC Co or in their Bde MGC Co under their infantry number ? ie at what stage in their involvement with MGs would they aquire an MGC number? Are there clear rules ? Charlie One cannot presume men with previous infantry experience had experience in the machine gun section of their battalion, other than those like George Coppard for example who went out with the Battalion and whose service in the MGC dates from (about) October 1915 to January 1916. In 1916 and 1917 under the terms of an ACI (and apologies to whoever I grabbed it from) men were selected for the MGC from Home Service units, often reserve units of men previously repatriated as sick or wounded or those who had completed basic training. The later ACI 596 read:- '596. Transfer of Infantry Recruits to the Machine Gun Corps. 1. A.C.I. 1545 of 1916 is cancelled, and the returns therein called for will no longer be rendered. 2. Two officers of the M.G.C. will be detailed to inspect Reserve Infantry Battalions in Commands with a view to selecting sufficient men of the necessary standard required to complete the establishment of the M.G.C. (Infantry). 3. One officer will inspect the men in Reserve Infantry Battalions in the Scottish, Northern and Western Commands, and the other officer will inspect those of the Eastern and Southern Commands and London District. 4. The inspecting officers will inform the O.C. the Reserve Infantry Battalion of the number of men selected by him, and the O.C. the unit will then immediately grant the men their 4 days' Expeditionary Force leave. 5. The O.C. the Reserve Infantry Battalion will inform the G.O.C.-in-C. in whose Command the battalion is stationed by telegram of the number of men selected by the inspecting officer. 6. The G.O.C.-in-C. the Command will inform "Forcedly (A.G. 9) London" by telegram at 5 p.m. every Saturday night of the number of men selected by the inspecting officer during the previous week when further instructions will be issued regarding the number of men to be sent to the M.G.C. 7. The men ordered to be sent to Grantham will be dealt with under the conditions laid down in A.C.I. 2098 of 1916, except that para. 1 will not apply, as the men will have already received their 4 days' leave.' These men would be renumbered on arrival at Grantham, the only requirement was to be of 'the necessary standard'. As Paddy Griffith noted in 'Battle Tactics of the Western Front' this process, and the demand for recruits gave some 'substance to the claim that the MGC contained men of dubious military quality and morale.' He observes the MGC was forced, 'to draw most of its other ranks from proud infantry regiments with long histories, which were keen to unload their worst, rather than their best, onto other units... In practice therefore the MGC was never quite the elite it tried to make out". In addition the Training Reserve was organised as laid out by Frogsmile at post 2 on this previous thread Often these recruits were too young for overseas service and therefore received further training in the UK, following the losses of March 1918 they could be posted to the BEF if they were age eighteen and a half and had six months training in the UK. These men were not renumbered to the MGC until posted. If we take as an example 172412 mobilized 15 April 1918 aged 18 and posted to 85th TR Bn 20 April numbered TR/5/133018 and compulsorily transferred to the 8th Reserve Bn MGC Clipstone Camp 15 August 1918 and then numbered 172412 to the Corps, posted to BEF and Camiers 20/21 October 1918 so although a direct enlistment to the MGC via the associated Training Reserve he was not renumbered to the Corps until August 1918. (Incidentally for the database there are surviving records for half a dozen or so in this series). Ken Edited 20 August , 2018 by kenf48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmsk212 Posted 20 August , 2018 Share Posted 20 August , 2018 (edited) Hi From past experience with service numbers and transfer dates etc it works well with transfers to MGC Infantry but when you deal with the MGC Cavalry although the numbers appear to be in batches they seem to be allocated at a much slower rate . Steve Edited 20 August , 2018 by hmsk212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmsk212 Posted 20 August , 2018 Share Posted 20 August , 2018 Some dates that I have come across in my research :- Machine Gun Corps - Transfer Dates 3279 - 01/01/1916 4070 - 01/01/1916 10026 - 01/01/1916 14747 - 03/03/1916 19889 - 18/02/1916 20309 - 01/02/1916 20821 - 08/03/1916 26577 - 08/03/1916 26754 - 01/01/1916 27043 - 08/03/1916 27234 - 11/03/1916 27907 - 13/03/1916 28308 - 15/03/1916 28520 - 16/03/1916 28543 - 14/03/1916 30763 - 08/04/1916 30841 - 08/04/1916 30962 - 08/04/1916 30963 - 08/04/1916 31019 - 08/04/1916 31539 - 12/04/1916 31841 - 14/04/1916 32658 - 25/04/1916 ( Posted on enlistment ) 35136 - 09/05/1916 36106 - 13/05/1916 36309 - 13/05/1916 39445 - 29/02/1916 41575 - 27/06/1916 ( Cavalry ) 41614 - 27/06/1916 ( Cavalry ) 41905 - 27/06/1916 ( Cavalry ) (Attached 26/02/1916) 42810 - 13/06/1916 44514 - 25/07/1916 43851 - 20/07/1916 44550 - 25/07/1916 44556 - 25/07/1916 44938 - 26/07/1916 45348 - 28/07/1916 45755 - 28/07/1916 45820 - 29/07/1916 46035 - 29/07/1916 46890 - 08/08/1916 48633 - 22/05/1916 48878 - 16/05/1916 49396 - 19/05/1916 50827 - 05/02/1916 ( Cavalry ) 50830 - 05/02/1916 ( Cavalry ) 51769 - 04/07/1916 ( Cavalry ) 51864 - 04/07/1916 ( Cavalry ) 52853 - 19/02/1917 ( Cavalry ) 52981 - 10/08/1916 53284 - 14/08/1916 53868 - 01/09/1916 53946 - 01/09/1916 58751 - 23/09/1916 63520 - 10/10/1916 63544 - 10/10/1916 63705 - 12/10/1916 64091 - 10/10/1916 64948 - 16/10/1916 65067 - 17/10/1916 65095 - 18/10/1916 65284 - 21/10/1916 65692 - 12/02/1917 67615 - 07/11/1916 67832 - 14/11/1916 70516 - 30/11/1916 70911 - 02/12/1916 73332 - 05/02/1917 73650 - 10/05/1917 ( Attached 05/08/1916 ) 73873 - 12/01/1918 74123 - 11/03/1918 80196 - 20/04/1918 ( Motors ) 80286 - 14/05/1918 ( Motors ) 81331 - 28/11/1916 81422 - 28/11/1916 81541 - 30/11/1916 81551 - 30/11/1916 82466 - 12/12/1916 82618 - 19/12/1916 82665 - 19/12/1916 83251 - 09/01/1917 83302 - 09/01/1917 83381 - --/09/1916 83450 - 16/01/1917 83625 - 23/01/1917 84288 - 05/02/1917 84465 - 14/02/1917 86060 - 14/02/1917 87029 - 28/02/1917 87066 - 01/03/1917 87215 - 02/03/1917 87411 - 03/03/1917 87526 - 06/03/1917 88069 - 09/03/1917 88279 - 13/03/1917 88347 - 13/03/1917 88375 - 13/03/1917 88621 - 13/03/1917 91003 - 03/04/1917 96140 - 07/03/1917 ( Cavalry ) 96222 - 19/05/1917 ( Cavalry ) 101262 - 26/09/1917 ( Cavalry ) 104916 - 19/05/1917 106543 - 17/06/1917 107260 - 07/07/1917 109888 - 02/07/1917 (Heavy) 117714 - 01/09/1917 123320 - 15/10/1917 127355 - 10/11/1917 132464 - 25/01/1918 139278 - 10/03/1918 140154 - 11/04/1918 145061 - 12/04/1918 148765 - 09/05/1918 151415 - 07/04/1918 ( Ex - Yeomanry ) 157959 - 07/05/1918 164675 - --/04/1918 ( Ex - Hussars ) 170046 - --/04/1918 ( Cavalry - Ex Yeomanry ) 177383 - 14/09/1918 Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 20 August , 2018 Share Posted 20 August , 2018 50 minutes ago, hmsk212 said: Some dates that I have come across in my research :- Machine Gun Corps - Transfer Dates 3279 - 01/01/1916 4070 - 01/01/1916 10026 - 01/01/1916 14747 - 03/03/1916 19889 - 18/02/1916 20309 - 01/02/1916 20821 - 08/03/1916 26577 - 08/03/1916 26754 - 01/01/1916 27043 - 08/03/1916 27234 - 11/03/1916 27907 - 13/03/1916 28308 - 15/03/1916 28520 - 16/03/1916 28543 - 14/03/1916 30763 - 08/04/1916 30841 - 08/04/1916 30962 - 08/04/1916 30963 - 08/04/1916 31019 - 08/04/1916 31539 - 12/04/1916 31841 - 14/04/1916 32658 - 25/04/1916 ( Posted on enlistment ) 35136 - 09/05/1916 36106 - 13/05/1916 36309 - 13/05/1916 39445 - 29/02/1916 41575 - 27/06/1916 ( Cavalry ) 41614 - 27/06/1916 ( Cavalry ) 41905 - 27/06/1916 ( Cavalry ) (Attached 26/02/1916) 42810 - 13/06/1916 44514 - 25/07/1916 43851 - 20/07/1916 44550 - 25/07/1916 44556 - 25/07/1916 44938 - 26/07/1916 45348 - 28/07/1916 45755 - 28/07/1916 45820 - 29/07/1916 46035 - 29/07/1916 46890 - 08/08/1916 48633 - 22/05/1916 48878 - 16/05/1916 49396 - 19/05/1916 50827 - 05/02/1916 ( Cavalry ) 50830 - 05/02/1916 ( Cavalry ) 51769 - 04/07/1916 ( Cavalry ) 51864 - 04/07/1916 ( Cavalry ) 52853 - 19/02/1917 ( Cavalry ) 52981 - 10/08/1916 53284 - 14/08/1916 53868 - 01/09/1916 53946 - 01/09/1916 58751 - 23/09/1916 63520 - 10/10/1916 63544 - 10/10/1916 63705 - 12/10/1916 64091 - 10/10/1916 64948 - 16/10/1916 65067 - 17/10/1916 65095 - 18/10/1916 65284 - 21/10/1916 65692 - 12/02/1917 67615 - 07/11/1916 67832 - 14/11/1916 70516 - 30/11/1916 70911 - 02/12/1916 73332 - 05/02/1917 73650 - 10/05/1917 ( Attached 05/08/1916 ) 73873 - 12/01/1918 74123 - 11/03/1918 80196 - 20/04/1918 ( Motors ) 80286 - 14/05/1918 ( Motors ) 81331 - 28/11/1916 81422 - 28/11/1916 81541 - 30/11/1916 81551 - 30/11/1916 82466 - 12/12/1916 82618 - 19/12/1916 82665 - 19/12/1916 83251 - 09/01/1917 83302 - 09/01/1917 83381 - --/09/1916 83450 - 16/01/1917 83625 - 23/01/1917 84288 - 05/02/1917 84465 - 14/02/1917 86060 - 14/02/1917 87029 - 28/02/1917 87066 - 01/03/1917 87215 - 02/03/1917 87411 - 03/03/1917 87526 - 06/03/1917 88069 - 09/03/1917 88279 - 13/03/1917 88347 - 13/03/1917 88375 - 13/03/1917 88621 - 13/03/1917 91003 - 03/04/1917 96140 - 07/03/1917 ( Cavalry ) 96222 - 19/05/1917 ( Cavalry ) 101262 - 26/09/1917 ( Cavalry ) 104916 - 19/05/1917 106543 - 17/06/1917 107260 - 07/07/1917 109888 - 02/07/1917 (Heavy) 117714 - 01/09/1917 123320 - 15/10/1917 127355 - 10/11/1917 132464 - 25/01/1918 139278 - 10/03/1918 140154 - 11/04/1918 145061 - 12/04/1918 148765 - 09/05/1918 151415 - 07/04/1918 ( Ex - Yeomanry ) 157959 - 07/05/1918 164675 - --/04/1918 ( Ex - Hussars ) 170046 - --/04/1918 ( Cavalry - Ex Yeomanry ) 177383 - 14/09/1918 Steve Thanks Steve - I've dropped that to an xls file and imported it to the database. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 20 August , 2018 Author Share Posted 20 August , 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, ss002d6252 said: I've dropped that to an xls file and imported it to the database A useful list from Steve. clever stuff with the import bit. Presumably a similar excersise could be done using info on lincspoacher's thread if he doesn't mind ? Very helpful background from Ken. These things are never straightforward. Charlie Edited 20 August , 2018 by charlie962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Black Posted 21 August , 2018 Share Posted 21 August , 2018 I've added all the MGC transfer numbers with known dates as given on the 1914 star roll from the Black Watch. Hopefully a few more forumites will add to it from their own research already carried out to make it a handy guide. Derek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neill Gilhooley Posted 21 August , 2018 Share Posted 21 August , 2018 A little glance at progress: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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