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Lee Bradbury

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A postcard I picked up a while ago, sadly there isn’t any information on the man.

To me the wound stripes don’t quite look right & I wonder if one or more have been added after the photo was taken.

 

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I’d agree all look to be superimposed on the image.

 

The medal ribbon of DCM, MM & 14 Star (or 14/15 Star) also looks rather odd -it doesn’t look to be sewn on straight?

 

Steve

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46 minutes ago, tullybrone said:

I’d agree all look to be superimposed on the image.

 

The medal ribbon of DCM, MM & 14 Star (or 14/15 Star) also looks rather odd -it doesn’t look to be sewn on straight?

 

Steve

The overseas chevrons on the right arm do not look right either.

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I suspect he could be identified - look at the evidence:

 

29th Division - formation sign (with, IIRC, a Divisional Award of some sort on it)

Late war - overseas chevrons

Regular soldier - 14-15 Star and two Good Conduct Badges suggest that

MM (certain), DCM (probable, though I'd not discount a VC, actually, as the ribbon could be one colour and (again, IIRC) the miniature VC on the ribbon came in later.

 

Shoulder title could help, too. Units in the 29th Division later in the war (infantry - Corps and Services would mostly have short, straight, shoulder titles)

 

2 RF - no, shoulder title wrong (would be two letter, straight, with grenade)

1 LF - as above

1 RDF - as above (tho' three letters)

1 KOSB - no, straight, 4 letters

2 SWB - no, three letters

1 R Innis F - as for other Fusilier units

 

Other units which served in the division in the 1917/18 period which might be suitable

 

16 Middlesex (tho' less likely to have a 1915 man)

1 Border

4 Worcs (tho' a longer curved title is possible)

2 Hants 

1 Essex

2 Leinster

 

Newfoundland - no idea what their shoulder title looked like

Guernsey LI (tho' a stringed bugle would probably be involved)

2 Monmouth (Pioneers) (unlikely - no T and no pick and shovel on the collar)

 

I suggest, then, a search of multiple award-winners from the Border, Hanmpshire, Essex and possibly Worcestershire Regiments might be in order.

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Thanks Steven, I’ll see if I can find anything.

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I tried playing with photo, but could not get any more detail

 

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Kind of looks OK to me, the overseas chevrons are going with the fold of the jacket. The medal ribbons look to have been put on a bar as such, so you can  detach and put on another jacket.

The wound stripes are solid brass strips, they look polished to me and stand out on the photo, so look superimposed, the flash shadows are all different on the wound stripes also. 

Annoyingly, can't make out the shoulder title!

Just my opinion, and I'll happily stand corrected.

Hope this helps

 

Chris

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His four overseas stripes have one red so does that date the photo to 1917?

 

On closer inspection I'd say it's pukka, too.

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   Following on from Chris and Steven- a run through CWGC -based on DCM/MM, Private and regiment-as well as service chevrons- throws up only one candidate who might fit-if, indeed, our man was a casualty-  Private Albert Lee, DCM,MM- 2nd Leinsters

(But I accept it is more likely, as a statistic, that this man survived)

 

PS-  His service number with the Leinsters was 8543, which according to "Army Service Numbers" makes him a pre-war regular- 

8359 joined on 12th July 1907
8681 joined on 1st January 1908

 

But a private?????

                               
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IPT- Thanks- Couln't find a pic. with Google- May be him? Maybe not (Odds are against-but "Prince Charles Ears?). If not, then we are looking for a survivor.

  

 

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28 minutes ago, voltaire60 said:

But a private?????

 

HIs MIC shows "reduced to private" 30  Mar 1915 for "misconduct"

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My feeling is that there is a good chance that it is him, but one needs to get another photo !

 

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48 minutes ago, corisande said:

My feeling is that there is a good chance that it is him, but one needs to get another photo !

 

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Looks a good match to me  

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Well done chaps, certainly looks good, hair, ear nose and chin all look the same.

 

 

Chris

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Can we check DCM and MM dates at all?- Just to make sure he had the ribbons up before he was killed. Otherwise, everything else fits- His enlistment date in late 1907 fits exactly with KIA at 29 in 1918-that is, enlisted at 18. 

 

     The shoulder titles- close enough?

 

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19 minutes ago, voltaire60 said:

 

Can we check DCM and MM dates at all?- Just to make sure he had the ribbons up before he was killed. Otherwise, everything else fits- His enlistment date in late 1907 fits exactly with KIA at 29 in 1918-that is, enlisted at 18. 

  

     The shoulder titles- close enough?

 

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The DCM for L/Cpl A Lee was gazetted 14 Nov 16.

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Craig

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The title in the picture appears to end in R, there is a LEINSTER title....

 

Chris

 

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Well...what can I say? This people on this Forum are amazing. From me thinking this was just a postcard with some soldier that may, or may not, have been manipulated to a probable identification in a weekend is outstanding.

 

The funny thing is that his surname is that my maternal grandfather’s cousin’s surname is also Lee.

 

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I do believe this is the Divisional gallantry award he has on his patch, as mentioned by Steven.

 

Chris

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A different version...

 

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