Skipman Posted 21 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 21 July , 2018 I'm sure there are threads on this. Which software would I need to overlay maps on google earth. Would a map moron of my level manage it? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Feledziak Posted 21 July , 2018 Share Posted 21 July , 2018 Here is a handy youtube video which is fairly good. It is done with a mac but the presentation is OK. It will give you a good idea of how to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 21 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 21 July , 2018 Thanks Martin, will check it out. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 23 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 23 July , 2018 I don't suppose you guys have a map that gives location Jonchery-Sur-Vesle 1:20,000 220.4x 267.8 do you? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOVE23 Posted 23 July , 2018 Share Posted 23 July , 2018 Hello Skip et al: Life Lesson #1: Lambert maps are an absolute b*stard. I've spoken with a gentleman who I suspect to be an expert on the subject and he provided me the following information. If anyone who is smarter than me wants to try to run this through a GIS program they're more than welcome to it. I've used the Nord de Guerre projection but it seems to be off. Quote The système Lambert projection is a Lambert Conformal Conic with standard parallels at 47.7° N and 52.3° N, central meridian at 7.737229° E, latitude of origin 49.5° N, false easting 500000, and false northing 300000. I got these values from the French survey reports published just after the war (and converting French grades to degrees). I see you've previously received a copy of a Jonchery map, but what it didn't include (at least publicly) was the edges that would give the base coordinates to do a plot. If you can send that to me, I can put you on the right track and double check the work Howard did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOVE23 Posted 23 July , 2018 Share Posted 23 July , 2018 Fun homework assignment! Here's a trig list the French used for their maps. Maybe a map fiend can cross reference WGS84 lat longs to this madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 23 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 23 July , 2018 By Jove23, I need a map, I'm lost The only map I have is the one from the brigade diary Click Howard is the man with the French maps. At a guess, how far out is our mark in post #16 likely to be? Thanks for your input, appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOVE23 Posted 23 July , 2018 Share Posted 23 July , 2018 As far as the first set of coordinates, I'd say it's bang on. I've marked the area in a red halo, as I believe these coordinates are on a grid system and not an exact coordinate system, so anything in that ring would most likely be "snapped" to those coordinates. Here's the Jonchery-sur-Vesle map. I cannot read the side coordinates so i can't give you a good fix yet. Maybe Howard can dig up a better version? Best, Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 23 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 23 July , 2018 (edited) Merci beaucoup monsieur Justin. Mike Edited 23 July , 2018 by Skipman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.m.willis Posted 20 November , 2018 Share Posted 20 November , 2018 This is the wood which was taken on 1st August from both sides, as part of the capture of the ridge above BEUGNEUX. it's only when you stand on top of the hill above Beugneux, do you really appreciate how strategically significant it was to the Germans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 12 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 12 April , 2019 Been studying this in a bit more detail recently and it is now blindingly obvious to me that this feature is "Hill 158" the very one that the 1/5th A & SH took on 1/8/1918 Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.m.willis Posted 27 April , 2019 Share Posted 27 April , 2019 On 12/04/2019 at 10:51, Skipman said: Been studying this in a bit more detail recently and it is now blindingly obvious to me that this feature is "Hill 158" the very one that the 1/5th A & SH took on 1/8/1918 Mike Exactly correct. I walked this last year and it is a small hill just south of Beugneux that was flanked on both sides. It held multiple German MG nests and overlooked the whole advance. It is thickly wooded these days and there was a rather large bull protecting the entrance. But you can still see shell holes and slit trenches on the ground. Although the hill isn’t very high (only a couple a metres above surrounding area) it does afford excellent views of the advance since the approach is entirely flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 27 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 27 April , 2019 Excellent r.m.willis, thanks for the confirmation. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.m.willis Posted 27 April , 2019 Share Posted 27 April , 2019 Just now, Skipman said: Excellent r.m.willis, thanks for the confirmation. Mike You’re welcome. i just looked through my photos from 2018 & the only one I have is of the very large & imposing bull! I am there again next month so will take some more snaps and post them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 27 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 27 April , 2019 2 minutes ago, r.m.willis said: the only one I have is of the very large & imposing bull! He'll be a big pussycat I am there again next month so will take some more snaps and post them. That would be great. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 27 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 27 April , 2019 Does anyone know how to pronounce Beugneux? My guess Bo-nyu (U as in luck) Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.m.willis Posted 27 April , 2019 Share Posted 27 April , 2019 15 minutes ago, Skipman said: Does anyone know how to pronounce Beugneux? My guess Bo-nyu (U as in luck) Mike I go with Ber Ner or bern yer depending on my mood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 27 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 27 April , 2019 1 hour ago, r.m.willis said: I go with Ber Ner or bern yer depending on my mood Ask the locals when you're there. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Regiano Posted 27 April , 2019 Share Posted 27 April , 2019 3 hours ago, Skipman said: Ask the locals when you're there. Mike I tried that to obtain a definitive answer for Mametz. The first I got was Ma-metz; the second was Ma-may. So no nearer finding out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 27 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 27 April , 2019 6 minutes ago, Don Regiano said: I tried that to obtain a definitive answer for Mametz. The first I got was Ma-metz; the second was Ma-may. So no nearer finding out! I think Ma-may is correct. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Regiano Posted 27 April , 2019 Share Posted 27 April , 2019 9 hours ago, Skipman said: I think Ma-may is correct. Mike That was my original thought Mike but then I was reminded of the pronunciation of the town (city?) of Metz. Reg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHB Posted 28 November , 2019 Share Posted 28 November , 2019 (edited) Hi, hope it is ok to resurrect this old discussion however it is quite relevant to my research. My great uncle (Pte C.F. Briggs) was killed on 24 Jul 1918 as part of attack with the 1/1 Herefords. He was re-buried at the Raperie British cemetery which I will hopefully visit next year. From what I have read they came under extreme MG fire in corn fields near Tigny. I would like to identify an approximate location of his original burial site which is shown in the "Concentration" document below. Any insight appreciated, or perhaps a similar map extract to #11 above covering the nearby coordinates required. Thank-you JB Edited 28 November , 2019 by JHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 28 November , 2019 Author Share Posted 28 November , 2019 JB it wouuld be worth sending a private message to some of the extremely knowledeagble and helpful members who helped so readily on this thread. Might also be best to start a new thread, specific to your soldier. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHB Posted 28 November , 2019 Share Posted 28 November , 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Skipman said: JB it wouuld be worth sending a private message to some of the extremely knowledeagble and helpful members who helped so readily on this thread. Might also be best to start a new thread, specific to your soldier. Mike Thanks for your suggestion Mike. I have started a new thread. (not sure how to link to it) Cheers JB Edited 28 November , 2019 by JHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay dubaya Posted 29 November , 2019 Share Posted 29 November , 2019 On 27/04/2019 at 09:07, Skipman said: Does anyone know how to pronounce Beugneux? My guess Bo-nyu (U as in luck) Mike Badmenil-aux-Bois (bad may nil' loh bwah), I-42 Badonviller (ba dong vi yay'), p-40 Badonvilliers (ba dong vi li ehr'), c-39 Bagneux (ba nyiih'), f-39 Baignes (ben'), g-53 Bailleul (ba i yuhl'), C-9 and I'm sure it was you that pointed me in the direction of this little gem... selfpronouncing900rand.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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