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Tackler7

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Hello

 

I have researched a RAF member who died when struck by a train whilst on leave. The inquest ruled suicide through depression.

 

Would this count as a war death because he was on leave or a civilian death because of the non combat way he died?

 

He is shown on the CWG site.

 

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Hello and welcome to the forum.

Could you post the details of the individual concerned - name, number, dob, etc. as that will help folks assist you.

As a guess he may be listed as KOAS or DOAS which would be Killed On Active Service, or Died etc.

David

 

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The CWGC website lists many people whose deaths were "non combat":  from accidents, suicide and illnesses when in England. For example, most of the 636 Australian war graves recorded in Wiltshire for 1916-20 are of men (and nurses) who died of Spanish Influenza after the Armistice. I know of several people listed by the CWGC who died when on leave.

 

Moonraker

 

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19 hours ago, DavidOwen said:

Hello and welcome to the forum.

Could you post the details of the individual concerned - name, number, dob, etc. as that will help folks assist you.

As a guess he may be listed as KOAS or DOAS which would be Killed On Active Service, or Died etc.

David

 

Thank you.

 

GW Jubb, 47584, RAF. Died 5/9/18 in Wakefield. Buried in Wakefield.

 

He was a motor mechanic and joined the newly formed RAF late in the war. Any information on his RAF career would be of great interest.

 

Thank you.

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Try this link to the RAF vault http://www.rafmuseumstoryvault.org.uk/archive/jubb-g.w

 

If you have a Find My Past subscription his service records exist there https://www.findmypast.co.uk/search/results?datasetname=british+royal+air+force%2c+airmen's+service+records+1912-1939&lastname=jubb

 

No doubt others will have more detail in time.

 

David

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5 hours ago, Tackler7 said:

Thank you.

 

GW Jubb, 47584, RAF. Died 5/9/18 in Wakefield. Buried in Wakefield.

 

He was a motor mechanic and joined the newly formed RAF late in the war. Any information on his RAF career would be of great interest.

 

Thank you.

Hi

'Airmen Died in the Great War 1914-1918' (DVD-ROM) has him as George William Jubb, 47584 with the rank of Sergeant, at 42 Training Depot Station.  Died (Cause not known) on 5.9.1918.  Buried at Thornes, Yorks.  If that is of any help.

 

Mike

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  There are also 2 accounts (the same) in the Yorkshire papers online on British Newspaper Archive. Interesting as he had previously served in the Yeomanry- and is described as Sergeant-Major

 

 

SOLDIERS BODY FOUND ON THE LINE NEAR WAKEFIELD

... knocked down by or fallen from train. The body was afterwards identified that George William Jubb, aged about 38, whpse mother resides at Thorne?, not far away from the fatality. Jubb was a sergeant-major in the Yeomanry, and the outbreak the war joined the ...

Published: Thursday 05 September 1918 
Newspaper: Yorkshire Evening Post 
County: Yorkshire, England 
Type: Article | Words: 127 | Page: 3 | Tags: none
 
 

COMING MAYORS

... Thornes. near Wakefield. The body was afterwards identified that George William Jubb, aged about 38, mot her resides Thornes. How the young man to his end is at present a mystery. Jubb was formerly a sergeant-major in the Yeomanry, but joined tho Regular ...

Published: Friday 06 September 1918 
Newspaper: Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer 
County: Yorkshire, England 
Type: Article | Words: 599 | Page: 6 | Tags: none
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Cheers, I have the inquest details. Initially I was expecting him to have died on active service rather than being hit by a train whilst depressed on leave.

 

A sad tale altogether.

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A friend once owned the medals of a soldier who was killed in UK when hit by a train. The investigation had witnesses who said he was drunk & was crawling along the tracks back to his camp & never knew what hit him.

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