JMB1943 Posted 8 July , 2018 Share Posted 8 July , 2018 RGJ, I am aware of that book, but have not seen it. The Author is actually a descendant of THE Wilkinson. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGJDEE Posted 8 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 8 July , 2018 Thanks again Dave happy hunting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGJDEE Posted 8 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 8 July , 2018 I ll buy it and let you know , if it’s as good as the family bayonets I ll not be disappointed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 8 July , 2018 Share Posted 8 July , 2018 1 hour ago, JMB1943 said: RGJ, I am aware of that book, but have not seen it. The Author is actually a descendant of THE Wilkinson. Regards, JMB He was quite prolific in his writing, I have one covering swords and bayonets which can be quite useful. 1 hour ago, RGJDEE said: I ll buy it and let you know , if it’s as good as the family bayonets I ll not be disappointed ! I'm sure it will be a good starting point, I always have a look in second hand bookshops and charity shops, as you never know what you'll find. regards to you both, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGJDEE Posted 8 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 8 July , 2018 Just aquired it on e bay not too expensive (£17) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 8 July , 2018 Share Posted 8 July , 2018 (edited) RGJ, We will give you a week (at most!), then Dave and I would like to know your opinion of the book. JMB Edited 8 July , 2018 by JMB1943 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 8 July , 2018 Share Posted 8 July , 2018 6 minutes ago, JMB1943 said: RGJ, We will give you a week (at most!), then Dave and I would like to know your opinion of the book. JMB Definitely, there's always room for another on the bookshelf if I move things round. Books are invaluable, and I find much better than relying on google alone, so always a worthy investment. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGJDEE Posted 9 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 9 July , 2018 Yes I have to agree good to have to hand and much more user friendly, will let you both know ASAP regards R incidentally seen a p13 Remington do either of you have one of these ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 9 July , 2018 Share Posted 9 July , 2018 I have a couple of those, nice to have one, used mainly for training during the Great War, but that and the 1917 were the iconic home guard bayonet...what scabbard is with it? Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 9 July , 2018 Share Posted 9 July , 2018 Afraid not, Mr. Dee. Now that you have the Remington version, you should keep an eye out for the Winchester-made model. Many less made by WIN, so correspondingly many more $$$ to purchase. Our friendly source (Skennerton, p.191) gives REM 1,243,000 & WIN 225,000 production of the P.1913 bayonet. Your REM above looks like a chrome- or nickel-plated parade bayonet; even the screws/nuts through the grips are bright. Or is it just highly polished ? Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGJDEE Posted 9 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 9 July , 2018 Haven’t purchased it yet but may be tempted ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 9 July , 2018 Share Posted 9 July , 2018 22 minutes ago, RGJDEE said: Haven’t purchased it yet but may be tempted ?? Looks to me, as JMB suggested, like its been chromed. Standard British scabbard which ties in, Some of these did go back to the U.S. with the British acceptance stamps then scrubbed. If it comes at the right price O.K. but there are plenty out there...not as popular as the 1907 so usually cheaper. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 9 July , 2018 Share Posted 9 July , 2018 (edited) Just noticed...the link that I posted earlier, he has one on page 2, plenty of original finish and a 39 pattern frog...might be worth looking at as a comparison. Dave. Edited 9 July , 2018 by Dave66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGJDEE Posted 9 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 9 July , 2018 Yes that one looks a better one. I was curious about the bright finish , to be honest I was only looking to buy it if it was at a v reasonable price .its for auction so will wait and see. Would rather spend on a p 1888 now you two have whet my appetite! There is a dealer up here in Newcastle who may have one or two, would also like to expand on the P 1907 with some different makers. I know , I was warned after buying the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 9 July , 2018 Share Posted 9 July , 2018 We wait with anticipation, I think in might be time to get some brownie points with Mrs Dee and prepare for the new arrivals. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGJDEE Posted 9 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 9 July , 2018 Well funny you should mention that ........... a couple of old sayings come to mind ........... ”ignorance is bliss “ “what she doesn’t know won’t hurt her” fortunately she who must be obeyed doesn’t venture into the loft at all.( I think bayonets would be ok but not the SMLE so they will remain my treasures ! In private) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 9 July , 2018 Share Posted 9 July , 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, RGJDEE said: Well funny you should mention that ........... a couple of old sayings come to mind ........... ”ignorance is bliss “ “what she doesn’t know won’t hurt her” fortunately she who must be obeyed doesn’t venture into the loft at all.( I think bayonets would be ok but not the SMLE so they will remain my treasures ! In private) I'm wondering if under the spare bed may be a better option, went in my loft today and hot as hell, wouldn't do the wood or leather any good! I am lucky, have the little room to myself, after the first twenty she didn't seem to notice the additions! Edited 9 July , 2018 by Dave66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGJDEE Posted 10 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 10 July , 2018 (edited) OH DEAR Gentlemen , on my day off today after a visit to town I find myself in a quandary ! seen a Sanderson and an Enfield both in reasonable condition also a Lithgow with frog , what to do (all P 1907) which in your learned opinions is the most desirable ?? Unfortunately finances allow only one purchase. Yours in anticipation Richard. Edited 11 July , 2018 by RGJDEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGJDEE Posted 11 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 11 July , 2018 Whilst examining the scabbard of my 1/17 Wilkinson pall mall I came across these faint marks . Is that a Canadian acceptance mark ? Not sure about the letters? If it is of Canadian issue then what about the unit markings on the pommel. Originally thought to be 2nd Kashmir Rifles. Have a look at the photos , I welcome your comments. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 11 July , 2018 Share Posted 11 July , 2018 23 hours ago, RGJDEE said: OH DEAR Gentlemen , on my day off today after a visit to town I find myself in a quandary ! seen a Sanderson and an Enfield both in reasonable condition also a Lithgow with frog , what to do (all P 1907) which in your learned opinions is the most desirable ?? Unfortunately finances allow only one purchase. Yours in anticipation Richard. Now that is a dilemma Richard.....failing using a credit card and doing a bulk deal for all three, you probably see far less of the lithgow manufactured ones, if the others had a really good unit marking that could make a difference. with regard the scabbard, I can see the EFD, but can't quite make out what may well be the Canadian acceptance stamp. It's quite common for scabbards and bayonets to become separated...in fact some of mine are odd bayonets and scabbards that have been paired up at some time. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGJDEE Posted 11 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 11 July , 2018 2 minutes ago, Dave66 said: Now that is a dilemma Richard.....failing using a credit card and doing a bulk deal for all three, you probably see far less of the lithgow manufactured ones, if the others had a really good unit marking that could make a difference. with regard the scabbard, I can see the EFD, but can't quite make out what may well be the Canadian acceptance stamp. It's quite common for scabbards and bayonets to become separated...in fact some of mine are odd bayonets and scabbards that have been paired up at some time. Dave Thanks Dave , will post on the one that comes home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 11 July , 2018 Share Posted 11 July , 2018 (edited) On 10/07/2018 at 13:32, RGJDEE said: OH DEAR Gentlemen , on my day off today after a visit to town I find myself in a quandary ! seen a Sanderson and an Enfield both in reasonable condition also a Lithgow with frog , what to do (all P 1907) which in your learned opinions is the most desirable ?? Unfortunately finances allow only one purchase. Yours in anticipation Richard. (Un)enviable position to be in. Real estate agents say Location, Location, Location. For any collectible, I would say Condition, condition, condition. But that would be with all things (grips/rust pits/ unit markings etc) being equal. If the Lithgow has an Aussie scabbard, then that has to be the one! Good Luck, JMB Edited 11 July , 2018 by JMB1943 Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGJDEE Posted 11 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 11 July , 2018 Thanks jmb how do you tell if the scabbard is lithgow /Aussie made ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 11 July , 2018 Share Posted 11 July , 2018 (edited) Richard, Damned if I know! Dave, you’re up...... Seriously, I would expect the locket & chape to have the 7-pointed star and /or MA that are present on the blade. Regards JMB Edited 11 July , 2018 by JMB1943 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 11 July , 2018 Share Posted 11 July , 2018 10 minutes ago, JMB1943 said: Richard, Damned if I know! Dave, you’re up...... Seriously, I would expect the locket & chape to have the 7-pointed star and /or MA that are present on the blade. Regards JMB Don't know I'm afraid, but there's one hear with a full description of all the relevant stamps..http://www.anzacblade.com.au/wwi-australian-lithgow-smle-pattern-1907-sword-bayonet-scabbard-unit-marked-1917.html Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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