seaJane Posted 2 July , 2018 Share Posted 2 July , 2018 I have a stray note in my files, probably from R.S. Allison's The Surgeon Probationers, that this young man was MID for his services at Zeebrugge. However, I can't lay hands on a copy of it to determine which ship he was on - not, I think, VINDICTIVE, DAFFODIL or IRIS(II), but one of the other, less-involved, ships. I've looked in Simon Eyre's book but there's no indication. Can anyone help? Thankee sJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 2 July , 2018 Share Posted 2 July , 2018 Correct-MID for Zeebrugge-but ship not given- Cannot see a service file for him on Doscovery either. Was he is Navy List perchance, Jane-I'm sure you have them memorised The Edinburgh Gazette Publication date: 25 July 1918 Issue: 13294 Page: 2584 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 3 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 3 July , 2018 Almost certainly in the Navy List, but they stopped printing ship affiliations in ... early 1915, I think it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domwalsh Posted 3 July , 2018 Share Posted 3 July , 2018 I'll see if I can find out, Jane. In the meantime, here's a ref to du Toit that might raise an eyebrow! http://source.southdublinlibraries.ie/bitstream/10599/11412/5/19141204.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 3 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 3 July , 2018 I saw that when I was searching! Subversive, or what??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 3 July , 2018 Share Posted 3 July , 2018 (edited) He was commissioned on 31 March 1918 and appointed on the same date as surgeon (vice Surgeon FEICK) in the destroyer HMS PHOEBE, based on HMS ATTENTIVE at Dover. PHOEBE participated in the Zeebrugge raid (as escort to VINDICTIVE and saving the crew of the sinking HMS NORTH STAR), presumably with DU TOIT embarked. He was demobilised on 30 September 1918. Edited 3 July , 2018 by horatio2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 3 July , 2018 Share Posted 3 July , 2018 4 hours ago, horatio2 said: He was commissioned on 31 March 1918 and appointed on the same date as surgeon (vice Surgeon FEICK) in the destroyer HMS PHOEBE, based on HMS ATTENTIVE at Dover. PHOEBE participated in the Zeebrugge raid (as escort to VINDICTIVE and saving the crew of the sinking HMS NORTH STAR), presumably with DU TOIT embarked. He was demobilised on 30 September 1918. Excellent. Navy List 1920 (when he was SSLt) gives his date of seniroity as 4th April 1918-which suggests that was the day he joined ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 3 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 3 July , 2018 On 03/07/2018 at 15:00, horatio2 said: He was commissioned on 31 March 1918 and appointed on the same date as surgeon (vice Surgeon FEICK) in the destroyer HMS PHOEBE, based on HMS ATTENTIVE at Dover. PHOEBE participated in the Zeebrugge raid (as escort to VINDICTIVE and saving the crew of the sinking HMS NORTH STAR), presumably with DU TOIT embarked. He was demobilised on 30 September 1918. THANK YOU! Horatio. I am very much obliged. Though intrigued to see from GUEST's post that he seems to have been back in service in 1920. I now have the same problem with SBA Albert Robinson, MiD .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 3 July , 2018 Share Posted 3 July , 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, seaJane said: THANK YOU! Horatio. I am very much obliged. Though intrigued to see from M. Voltaire's post that he seems to have been back in service in 1920. As I am also!! South Africa had a strong RNVR connection and I suspect there is some mileage in the South African end of things, though,alas, the Boer lack of variety in surnames can be a problem. I suspect that he would have to complete an engagement. As a doctor, there will be an Obit. or further information about him somewhere. If he snuffed it in the UK, there should be something in the BMJ (on JSTOR). The British Library also have African newspapers on a subscripttion website similar to British Newspaper Archive. I will try to check for you in the next few days when I have to go into BL to read a book (Rather than drink coffee or post Tweets on God-Knows-What, which seems to be the main occupation there) Edited 3 July , 2018 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 3 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 3 July , 2018 Have you clicked on the link that Dom found? It's - interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 4 July , 2018 Share Posted 4 July , 2018 8 hours ago, seaJane said: Though intrigued to see from M. Voltaire's post that he seems to have been back in service in 1920. Being demobilised in September 1918 does not imply that he resigned his RNVR commission at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 4 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 4 July , 2018 Ah, I see. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 5 July , 2018 Share Posted 5 July , 2018 It may be of interest that Surg.Prob. Thomas Arnoldus du TOIT was the surgeon (ex-HMS ROSALIND) who relieved PC du TOIT in HMS PHOEBE when the latter was demobilised on 30 Sep 1918. TA du TOIT was demobilised 30 Nov 1918. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 5 July , 2018 Share Posted 5 July , 2018 1 hour ago, horatio2 said: It may be of interest that Surg.Prob. Thomas Arnoldus du TOIT was the surgeon (ex-HMS ROSALIND) who relieved PC du TOIT in HMS PHOEBE when the latter was demobilised on 30 Sep 1918. TA du TOIT was demobilised 30 Nov 1918. They appear to be brothers. There is quite a good family tree out there-which suggests they were a well-established Stellenbosch family (Although sacked British generals must have been a hazard in their youth). With 2 surgeons in the family and well-established, there is likely to be materials in the Cape newspapers,which I have yet to check online. The entry on Geni below-with Thanks to that site and to the compiler Thomas Arnoldus du Toit ‹ Back to du Toit surnameIs your surname du Toit? Research the du Toit family Thomas Arnoldus du Toit's Geni Profile Birthdate: 1872 (57) Birthplace: Waterberg Dist, South Africa Death: October 22, 1929 (57) Onlust dist Waterberg Immediate Family: Son of Francois Petrus Jacobus du Toit and Martha Catharina du Toit Husband of Louisa Johanna Wietziena du Toitand Magrieta Elisabetha Frederika du Toit Father of Francois Petrus Jacobus du Toit; Anna Helena Marta Basson; Carl Frederik Boshoff du Toit; Cornelius Johannes Jacobus du Toit; Margrieta Elisabetha Frederika du Toitand 4 others Brother of Cornelis Johannes du Toit; Willem Hendrik du Toit; Susanna Maria Hendrina Elizabeth Prinsloo; Carel Frederik du Toit; Magdalena Susanna Pienaar and 3 others Managed by: Charmaine Labuschagne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 5 July , 2018 Share Posted 5 July , 2018 And our man Cornelius Du Toit is there as well. As he lasted until 1977, then he should show up in SA records. Cornelis Johannes du Toit ‹ Back to du Toit surname Is your surname du Toit? Research the du Toit family Start your family tree now Cornelis Johannes du Toit's Geni Profile Contact profile manager View family tree Records for Cornelis Johannes du Toit Cornelis Johannes du Toit Birthdate: 1880 (77) Birthplace: Nylstroom, Bosveld, Limpopo, Suid Afrika Death: July 29, 1957 (77) Pretoria Hospitaal, Pretoria, Gauteng, Suid Afrika Immediate Family: Son of Francois Petrus Jacobus du Toit and Martha Catharina du Toit Husband of Eizabetha Francina du Toit Father of Elizabeth Francina Van Os; Susara Maria Roberts; Magdalena Susanna Clemons; Hester Christina Meyer; Marthinus Johannes Lodewicus Jesewus du Toit and 4 others Brother of Thomas Arnoldus du Toit; Willem Hendrik du Toit; Susanna Maria Hendrina Elizabeth Prinsloo; Carel Frederik du Toit; Magdalena Susanna Pienaar and 3 others Managed by: Catharina Johanna Cecilia Wolvaa... Last Updated: May 1, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 5 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 5 July , 2018 Sorry V but you seem to have slipped Corneliuses (Cornelii?). Philip Cornelius was who we started with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 5 July , 2018 Share Posted 5 July , 2018 1 hour ago, seaJane said: Sorry V but you seem to have slipped Corneliuses (Cornelii?). Philip Cornelius was who we started with. True enough. Gosh, there must be herds of Cornelius Du Toits out on the Veldt!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 6 July , 2018 Author Share Posted 6 July , 2018 Oh gno, gno, gno - oops sorry, Pavlov's earworm strikes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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