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Surgeon Probationer Philip Cornelius du Toit, RNVR - ship at Zeebrugge?


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I have a stray note in my files, probably from R.S. Allison's The Surgeon Probationers, that this young man was MID for his services at Zeebrugge.

 

However, I can't lay hands on a copy of it to determine which ship he was on - not, I think, VINDICTIVE, DAFFODIL or IRIS(II), but one of the other, less-involved, ships.

 

I've looked in Simon Eyre's book but there's no indication.

 

Can anyone help?

 

Thankee :)

 

sJ

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  Correct-MID for Zeebrugge-but ship not given- Cannot see a service file for him on Doscovery either. Was he is Navy List perchance, Jane-I'm sure you have them memorised  :wub:

 

 

The Edinburgh Gazette

Publication date:

25 July 1918

Issue:

13294

Page:

2584

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Almost certainly in the Navy List, but they stopped printing ship affiliations in ... early 1915, I think it was.

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I saw that when I was searching! Subversive, or what??? :blink:

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He was commissioned on 31 March 1918 and appointed on the same date as surgeon (vice Surgeon FEICK) in the destroyer HMS PHOEBE, based on HMS ATTENTIVE at Dover. PHOEBE participated in the Zeebrugge raid (as escort to VINDICTIVE and saving the crew of the sinking HMS NORTH STAR), presumably with DU TOIT embarked. He was demobilised on 30 September 1918.

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4 hours ago, horatio2 said:

He was commissioned on 31 March 1918 and appointed on the same date as surgeon (vice Surgeon FEICK) in the destroyer HMS PHOEBE, based on HMS ATTENTIVE at Dover. PHOEBE participated in the Zeebrugge raid (as escort to VINDICTIVE and saving the crew of the sinking HMS NORTH STAR), presumably with DU TOIT embarked. He was demobilised on 30 September 1918.

 

   Excellent.  Navy List 1920 (when he was SSLt) gives his date of seniroity as 4th April 1918-which suggests that was the day he joined ship.

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On 03/07/2018 at 15:00, horatio2 said:

He was commissioned on 31 March 1918 and appointed on the same date as surgeon (vice Surgeon FEICK) in the destroyer HMS PHOEBE, based on HMS ATTENTIVE at Dover. PHOEBE participated in the Zeebrugge raid (as escort to VINDICTIVE and saving the crew of the sinking HMS NORTH STAR), presumably with DU TOIT embarked. He was demobilised on 30 September 1918.

THANK YOU! Horatio. I am very much obliged. Though intrigued to see from GUEST's post that he seems to have been back in service in 1920.

 

I now have the same problem with SBA Albert Robinson, MiD ....

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24 minutes ago, seaJane said:

THANK YOU! Horatio. I am very much obliged. Though intrigued to see from M. Voltaire's post that he seems to have been back in service in 1920.

 

      As I am also!!   South Africa had a strong RNVR connection and I suspect there is some mileage in the South African end of things, though,alas, the Boer  lack of variety in surnames can be a problem. I suspect that he would have to complete an engagement. 

    As a doctor, there will be an Obit. or further information about him somewhere. If he snuffed it in the UK, there should be something in the BMJ (on JSTOR).  The British Library also have African newspapers on a subscripttion website similar to British Newspaper Archive. I will try to check for you  in the next few days when I have  to go into BL to read a book (Rather than drink coffee or post Tweets on God-Knows-What, which seems to be the main occupation there) :wub:

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Have you clicked on the link that Dom found? It's - interesting!

 

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8 hours ago, seaJane said:

Though intrigued to see from M. Voltaire's post that he seems to have been back in service in 1920.

Being demobilised in September 1918 does not imply that he resigned his RNVR commission at the same time.

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Ah, I see. Thank you!

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It may be of interest that Surg.Prob. Thomas Arnoldus du TOIT was the surgeon (ex-HMS ROSALIND) who relieved PC du TOIT in HMS PHOEBE when the latter was demobilised on 30 Sep 1918. TA du TOIT was demobilised 30 Nov 1918.

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1 hour ago, horatio2 said:

It may be of interest that Surg.Prob. Thomas Arnoldus du TOIT was the surgeon (ex-HMS ROSALIND) who relieved PC du TOIT in HMS PHOEBE when the latter was demobilised on 30 Sep 1918. TA du TOIT was demobilised 30 Nov 1918.

 

      They appear to be brothers.  There is quite a good family tree  out there-which suggests they were a well-established Stellenbosch family (Although sacked British generals must have been a hazard in their youth).  With 2 surgeons in the family and well-established, there is likely to be materials in the Cape newspapers,which I have yet to check online.

     The entry on Geni below-with Thanks to that site and to the compiler

 

Thomas Arnoldus du Toit

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Thomas Arnoldus du Toit's Geni Profile

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   And our man Cornelius Du Toit is there as well.   As he lasted until 1977, then he should show up in SA records.

 

Cornelis Johannes du Toit

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Cornelis Johannes du Toit's Geni Profile

Records for Cornelis Johannes du Toit

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Cornelis Johannes du Toit

Birthdate: 1880 (77)
Birthplace: Nylstroom, Bosveld, Limpopo, Suid Afrika 
Death: July 29, 1957 (77) 
Pretoria Hospitaal, Pretoria, Gauteng, Suid Afrika
Immediate Family:

Son of Francois Petrus Jacobus du Toit and Martha Catharina du Toit 
Husband of Eizabetha Francina du Toit 
Father of Elizabeth Francina Van Os; Susara Maria Roberts; Magdalena Susanna Clemons; Hester Christina Meyer; Marthinus Johannes Lodewicus Jesewus du Toit and 4 others 
Brother of Thomas Arnoldus du Toit; Willem Hendrik du Toit; Susanna Maria Hendrina Elizabeth Prinsloo; Carel Frederik du Toit; Magdalena Susanna Pienaar and 3 others 

 
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Sorry V but you seem to have slipped Corneliuses (Cornelii?). Philip Cornelius was who we started with.

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1 hour ago, seaJane said:

Sorry V but you seem to have slipped Corneliuses (Cornelii?). Philip Cornelius was who we started with.

 

  True enough:wub:. Gosh, there must be herds of Cornelius Du Toits out on the Veldt!!!

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Oh gno, gno, gno - oops sorry, Pavlov's earworm strikes again.

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