BarbaraG Posted 20 June , 2018 Share Posted 20 June , 2018 Trying to find details for J BOWMER 46718 RGA (Enlisted 09 October 1914) 20138 King's Shropshire Light Infantry (Discharged 31 July 1918) Have found some details in Burnt Documents - he sustained a bullet wound of spine, 20 November 1917 Cambrai front. He died 14 February 1919. He was born in Sandiacre, Derbyshire and his family later lived in Stapleford, Nottinghamshire. Wondering whether he was awarded a SWB or if his details appear on the Soldier's Effects Register. Any help/advice appreciated Barbara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 20 June , 2018 Share Posted 20 June , 2018 Barbara He appears in the Daily Casualty Lists at least twice: 24th October 1916 wounded Shropshire LI (wounding probably a month earlier) 22nd December 1917 wounded Shropshire LI (this will be the one you referred to above) Yes he is on the SWB list here on Ancestry Discharged 31/7/18 Yes He is in Effects here on Ancestry Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbaraG Posted 20 June , 2018 Author Share Posted 20 June , 2018 Thank you Charlie. I can't find him on CWGC Database. Barbara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 21 June , 2018 Share Posted 21 June , 2018 You may have found an 'In from the cold' there Barbara! @Terry Denham is he in the pipeline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbaraG Posted 21 June , 2018 Author Share Posted 21 June , 2018 I'm gathering info. Diane - need to find his burial. Will contact Terry when I have more details if it death cert. gives more clarity. Barbara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 21 June , 2018 Share Posted 21 June , 2018 Good luck with it then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 21 June , 2018 Share Posted 21 June , 2018 The effects details would indicate that he was still a serving soldier when he died. This would explain why there would be no SWB as it was given out on discharge. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbaraG Posted 21 June , 2018 Author Share Posted 21 June , 2018 Came across Facebook ref. 'King's Shropshire Light Infantry Battlefields' November 20, 2017. Lots of interesting details about events 'The Battle of Cambria'. There is also a reference for Pte Bowmer with info. from service papers (pension) and Ludlow Adv. 05-01-18 second wound of war??? Frustratingly I can't find the newspaper reference - any advice please? Barbara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busterfield Posted 21 June , 2018 Share Posted 21 June , 2018 There is also a pension file, 16 images, for Joseph Bowmer 20138 king's Shropshire, born 1892 Sandiacre Derbyshire, on Ancestry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbaraG Posted 21 June , 2018 Author Share Posted 21 June , 2018 Thank you Busterfield - that's him. So sad to read details of his injury. Again thanks to everyone - the pieces are coming together. Barbara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 21 June , 2018 Share Posted 21 June , 2018 3 hours ago, ss002d6252 said: This would explain why there would be no SWB Craig, but there was an SWB and he was discharged- see post2 Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 21 June , 2018 Share Posted 21 June , 2018 3 minutes ago, charlie962 said: Craig, but there was an SWB and he was discharged- see post2 Charlie Somehow read straight past your post (not sure how !) - the effects entry is even odder in that respect as it is not marked up in the usual way (nor are other men on the same page). A strange anomaly. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 21 June , 2018 Share Posted 21 June , 2018 6 minutes ago, ss002d6252 said: Somehow read straight past your post Craig Pearls before swine. ,It happens to me all the time. Fortunately I am thick-skinned. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbaraG Posted 21 June , 2018 Author Share Posted 21 June , 2018 (edited) Hoping to visit the cemetery where he is buried tomorrow....more details to follow. Will be hoping to find a family headstone. Update - unable to locate a headstone but have grave reference - his sister died in 1917 and his father in 1920 - there are two family graves, sad times for this family. Now waiting to receive DC for clarification of of death for Joseph. Barbara Edited 23 June , 2018 by BarbaraG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbaraG Posted 27 June , 2018 Author Share Posted 27 June , 2018 On 20 June 2018 at 23:26, charlie962 said: Barbara He appears in the Daily Casualty Lists at least twice: 24th October 1916 wounded Shropshire LI (wounding probably a month earlier) 22nd December 1917 wounded Shropshire LI (this will be the one you referred to above) Yes he is on the SWB list here on Ancestry Discharged 31/7/18 Yes He is in Effects here on Ancestry Charlie Hello Charlie Where might I access the Daily Casualty Lists? His first wound does not appear to be recorded on his Papers. His DC gives primary cause of death as the gunshot wound received 1yr 3 months before. Barbara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 27 June , 2018 Share Posted 27 June , 2018 1 hour ago, BarbaraG said: Where might I access the Daily Casualty Lists? H That 1916 record is available on Forces War Records here You may also find it on TheGenealogist or on FindmyPast (incl local newspapers) But the Daily casualty lists do not tell you where, exactly when, and how he was wounded. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 27 June , 2018 Share Posted 27 June , 2018 (edited) I missed it previously but FWR also have a hospital admissions record- (perhaps now available on FindmyPast) showing detail of this 1916 wounding. C Company 6th Bn SLI, GSW right shoulder (slight) , Ginchy 19/9/16, discharged back to duty at Base Depot 28/12/16. How does that fit with service record ? Wound may have been slight but he was off for 3 months. Charlie Edited 27 June , 2018 by charlie962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 27 June , 2018 Share Posted 27 June , 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, BarbaraG said: His DC gives primary cause of death as the gunshot wound received 1yr 3 months before. That is inevitable when you read his Pension record. Bullet wound to spine. Paralyzed, 100% disability, muscle wasting.. They attempted unsuccessfully to remove the bullet. A long drawn out death. I see his military character on discharge was 'very good', steady, honest and trustworthy. Another good man lost. He needs to be remembered on CWGC. Did you get any response from Terry ? Charlie Edited 27 June , 2018 by charlie962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbaraG Posted 27 June , 2018 Author Share Posted 27 June , 2018 Many thanks for your replies Charlie - will put findings together to send to Terry. Wanted to wait for DC before sending details. Barbara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbaraG Posted 28 June , 2018 Author Share Posted 28 June , 2018 Update - Joseph's details now with Terry. To be continued....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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