PJS Posted 28 May , 2018 Share Posted 28 May , 2018 Hello All, I am starting to research my maternal grandfather's war history and I have very little to go on. Basically, all I know is that he lied about his age and joined young, and then served in the RAMC in Egypt and India. The only information I have is his MIC and Medal Roll shown below: Leonard John Monks was born May 7, 1898 in Warrington. I do not have any photos of him in uniform but I do have a letter he wrote home in November 1918 from Deolali, India. The letter did not mention anything about his service but did say that he saw the Pyramids at Giza. Ideally, I would like to find out: 1. How he ended up in the RAMC with no medical background? 2. What ship he may have sailed on to get to Egypt in 1915? 3. Which hospital, CSS, etc. he might have served at in Egypt? 4. How, why and when he ended up in India? 5. Which hospital, CSS, etc. he might have served at in India? 6. How and when he returned home? 7. etc. Presumably he was, at least at first, part of the Egyptian Expeditionary Force: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Expeditionary_Force Any direction or information anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 28 May , 2018 Share Posted 28 May , 2018 (edited) Peter, He seems to have had an early interest in hygiene, winning one pound along with a thousand other in 1909 (aged 11?) in this soap competition. After the war his marriage cert shows him as an Assistant Foreman, (of what I don't know). So, as you say, no evidence of medical training. Reasons for going into the RAMC ? Apart from concientious objectors and others who may have done it as a matter of priniple it might be because it was a unit that was recruiting locally, eg Territorials. Or perhaps a friend joining at the same time. Medical knowledge was not the foremost requirement. Stretcher bearers would ideally be able to provide first aid or just strong enough to do a long carry. There were a host of practical and administrative jobs that needed all sorts of skills and perhaps he was a good organiser (foreman ?). The RAMC were also responsible for hygiene matters like water purity, I think. In Egypt and such hot climates the need to limit the spread of disease and sickness was a high priority but a very difficult task. Charlie Edit- born 7/5/1898 so just cracked 17 years when he went overseas. Edited 28 May , 2018 by charlie962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 28 May , 2018 Share Posted 28 May , 2018 (edited) If he hasn't got a surviving service record, perhaps one of the others on the same page of the 14-15 star roll has ? May give some clues but doesn't g'tee they went to same unit on arrival in Egypt. For example Sgt Wm Ernest Mason has discharge papers, I think, on FMP but cannnot find them on Ancestry. Edited 28 May , 2018 by charlie962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJS Posted 28 May , 2018 Author Share Posted 28 May , 2018 Thanks Charlie. Winner of a Soap competition? He kept that quiet. 1 hour ago, charlie962 said: If he hasn't got a surviving service record, perhaps one of the others on the same page of the 14-15 star roll has ? May give some clues but doesn't g'tee they went to same unit on arrival in Egypt. For example Sgt Wm Ernest Mason has discharge papers, I think, on FMP but cannnot find them on Ancestry. I did dig into about a dozen other RAMC's with service numbers that were "close" to his but none of them went to Egypt. I did not have the star roll page you found so I will go through them all and see what I can find. Thanks again for digging this up it's given me a good lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted 29 May , 2018 Share Posted 29 May , 2018 I've had a quick look at close numbers and don't think there will be much to go on. As Charlie said far better to go by other RAMC men with 1914-15 Star and date of entry 30/5/1915. But do note that Monk's 1914-15 Star roll is arranged alphabetically by first letter of surname. So he's in piece 2908 which is K to P. I think you need to find as many men as you can find across the rolls with date of entry 30/5/1915. Then of course you may find they are all reinforcements and sent all over the place. Also, if a man had a prolonged period of illness or injury his place would be filled by another and he could be sent to another unit. TEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 29 May , 2018 Share Posted 29 May , 2018 When I tried to have a go at service records I found Ancestry absolutely hopeless to get any search results. Findmypast seems to have a good indexing system and search results very easy to get. But I don't have an FMP sub so cannot go into detail. Am I doing something wrong on Ancestry or has their search facilty gone downhill ? Sorry I can't be more help. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJS Posted 29 May , 2018 Author Share Posted 29 May , 2018 45 minutes ago, TEW said: I've had a quick look at close numbers and don't think there will be much to go on. As Charlie said far better to go by other RAMC men with 1914-15 Star and date of entry 30/5/1915. But do note that Monk's 1914-15 Star roll is arranged alphabetically by first letter of surname. So he's in piece 2908 which is K to P. I think you need to find as many men as you can find across the rolls with date of entry 30/5/1915. Then of course you may find they are all reinforcements and sent all over the place. Also, if a man had a prolonged period of illness or injury his place would be filled by another and he could be sent to another unit. TEW I've been trawling through the records and I have the following list so far: 30-5-15(3) 46841 Sgt WE Mason 30206 Sgt AE Minter 40354 Pvt GA Morgan 44376 Pvt G Mooney 43508 Pvt AC Mole 11243 Pvt G Meagher 32837 Pvt P Murphy 43268 Pvt F Mycock 11128 Pvt WF Manser 11482 Pvt J Malone 44544 Pvt HA North 35154 Pvt S Ogden 45272 Cpl AA Overton 43958 Pvt TW Padley 43523 Pvt J Peacock 45277 Pvt H Pearce 43968 Pvt R Phillipson 44551 Pvt C Pryor 45162 Cpl TE Pugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJS Posted 29 May , 2018 Author Share Posted 29 May , 2018 15 hours ago, charlie962 said: After the war his marriage cert shows him as an Assistant Foreman, (of what I don't know). So, as you say, no evidence of medical training. It occurred to me (i.e. reminded me) after looking at this that he lived on Lovely Lane. 50 Lovely Lane, Warrington is less than 1/2 mile from, what is today called Warrington & Halton Hospitals. In 1914 it was simply called Warrington General Hospital. The site used to be a workhouse. During the 1st World War, the site became home to Whitecross Military Hospital. In 1898 the workhouse infirmary became Warrington General Hospital. Source: http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Warrington/ So, perhaps the proximity of the Hospital had some bearing on him joining the RAMC. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJS Posted 30 May , 2018 Author Share Posted 30 May , 2018 On 28/05/2018 at 15:28, charlie962 said: If he hasn't got a surviving service record, perhaps one of the others on the same page of the 14-15 star roll has ? May give some clues but doesn't g'tee they went to same unit on arrival in Egypt. I have now been through all 354 pages of the 14-15 Star roll and can add the following list of men that arrived in Egypt on 30-5-1915: 43898 Pvt W McEvoy 43944 Pvt A McLean 47148 Pvt J McKenzie 11384 Pvt J McParland 45151 Cpl R Laws 44949 Pvt J Ledson 44375 Pvt SHG Lane 46937 Pvt E Leppard 33836 Pvt CF Lloyd 46575 Pvt TH Lord 43940 Pvt AW Lee 43943 Pvt J Leslie 44274 Pvt JE Killick 11121 Pvt WS Kipling So far I have not found any service records for any of the 19 men I posted yesterday. I am searching on Ancestry because I no longer have a subscription to FMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 30 May , 2018 Share Posted 30 May , 2018 8 minutes ago, PJS said: I am searching on Ancestry because I no longer have a subscription to FMP. I am in the same situation. It doesn't stop you doing the initial search on FMP though which gives you an idea if there should be a service record- eg for Sgt Mason. Very frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted 30 May , 2018 Share Posted 30 May , 2018 PJS, My opinion is that FMP has the better and more accurate search function, plus you can do one search in the service and the pension records whereas Ancestry would need 2 different searches. Having said that there are records on Ancestry that FMP don't have and vice verse. I noticed on FMP that some of the men with numbers starting 11 have had an extra 1 stuck in which then suggests there are two men with the same number so you need care to make sure the correct number is on the sheet rather than just go by the index results. I did find two (I think) from your 1st list, surnames starting with M but I saw nothing on their early service. McEvoy also has a record but that's mostly concerned with post war material as he re-enlisted 1919. Leppard also has a record, discharged from 230 Field Ambulance 1919. Oddly his B.103 has him leaving Devonport 1/6/15 and arriving Egypt 13/6/15 and initially with 17 Gen Hospital. But medal roll gives date of entry as 30/5/15. Ended up back in France. If you want to hunt for more RAMC men with medal roll stating date of entry as 30/5/1915. Head back to Monk's 1914-15 roll on ancestry. On the right hand side there should be 3 small icons towards the top. Click the middle one and make sure source is selected. You should see that his medal roll is piece 2908. Use the drop down arrow on the piece number and you can select EG Piece 2909 which starts with Purvis and ends on Walton, another 350 ish pages I'm afraid. TEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJS Posted 30 May , 2018 Author Share Posted 30 May , 2018 4 minutes ago, TEW said: If you want to hunt for more RAMC men with medal roll stating date of entry as 30/5/1915. Head back to Monk's 1914-15 roll on ancestry. On the right hand side there should be 3 small icons towards the top. Click the middle one and make sure source is selected. You should see that his medal roll is piece 2908. Use the drop down arrow on the piece number and you can select EG Piece 2909 which starts with Purvis and ends on Walton, another 350 ish pages I'm afraid. TEW TEW, Thank you very much for that, I was planning to ask how to get the other rolls but you beat me to it. I agree that FMP has a simpler and superior search function than Ancestry but it's cost prohibitive to maintain paid subscriptions to both. I also get clobbered with credit card foreign exchange fees since I pay in US dollars. I think I will build my list first and then grapple with Ancestry/FMP later ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 30 May , 2018 Share Posted 30 May , 2018 If you can find him in an Absent Voters List there is a chance it will give his unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJS Posted 30 May , 2018 Author Share Posted 30 May , 2018 28 minutes ago, Chris_Baker said: If you can find him in an Absent Voters List there is a chance it will give his unit. Thanks for the suggestion. I can't find an Absent Voters list for Warrington (which was in Lancashire in 1919) although I did get a hit for an "L. Monks" in Altrincham, Cheshire on FMP - but that can't be him. I believe that he was too young to be listed prior to May 1919 and by that time he was probably back (although he did have to get back from India and that can't have been quick). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted 31 May , 2018 Share Posted 31 May , 2018 I found 3 more in the first 100 pages of Piece 2906 ; 43202 Addinell, 44004 Arnot & 43803 Anderson, the last 2 have existing records. Combined with Mason, McEvoy & Leppard the 5 records are painting an odd picture. They are leaving different UK ports on different dates and obviously on different vessels. McEvoy's record suggests he actually arrived in Egypt 15/5/1915 but has medal entitlement date of 30/5/1915. Leppard's record suggests he left Devonport 1/6/15 and was with BSF (British Salonika Force) from 13/6/1915. Perhaps the 30/5/15 date on his MIC stems from when he left the UK which is odd. The other 3 records seem to concur with the MIC date and Theatre but they have varying service from 30/5/15. One is sent off to Salonika possibly on Hospital Ship Guildford Castle the others with General Hospitals or Field Ambulances. TEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJS Posted 31 May , 2018 Author Share Posted 31 May , 2018 Here are the rest that I found (still need to do 2906): 1914-1915 Star RAMC Piece 2909: 44078 Pvt W Schofield 46611 Pvt A Shackleton 43293 Pvt AE Smith 11265 Pvt G Smith 43732 Pvt J Smith 44175 Pvt P Smethurst 44554 Pvt F Sims 44552 Pvt JE Stainsby 45291 Cpl P Strike 43987 Pvt I Shepherd* Convicted FGCM 19/1/17 52066 Pvt AL Thompson 52066 L/Cpl AE Tipping 11270 Pvt JH Tonks 47155 Sgt W Tullett 11447 Pvt WH Tripp 57933 Pvt JH Trumshaw 44978 Pvt W Turner 45193 Cpl P Toss 11273 Pvt VW Vines 11277 Pvt WJ Vine 46561 Cpl H Whittaker 44098 Sgt AB Whale 43252 Pvt BH Wiliams 43594 Pvt GH Williams 11351 Pvt T Wilderspin 7017 Pvt W Wilkinson* (Really is 7017) 44194 L/Cpl W Wilson 11357 Pvt HA Wilson Star returned. Issued from Middx Roll. 43560 Pvt GT Walden 46579 Pvt E Watkins 45100 Pvt AW White 1914-1915 Star RAMC Piece 2907: 45130 Pvt F Edwards 11293 Pvt A Farmer 49348 Pvt GTR Francis 45402 Pvt H Firth 36851 Sgt FJ Filsell 11464 Pvt GCB Forge 47243 Cpl CL Gibbons 19009 Pvt A Gibb 46060 Pvt W Golightly 44036 Pvt R Grundy 46614 Pvt SC Greenhouse 44346 Cpl G Grierson 44992 Pvt TJ Hardwick 43928 Pvt F Hartley 47608 Pvt JT Handcock 36401 Pvt WT Hallam 43468 Cpl FH Huddlestone 43245 Pvt SW Hodson 54044 Cpl FJ Holden 43480 Pvt F Holford 51869 Pvt FJ Howe 44040 Pvt J Hoey 44431 Pvt G Holt 59919 Sgt CH Hooper 44359 Pvt JC Higdon 59802 Pvt A Hilton 11110 Pvt H Hewitt 45081 Sgt JL Jones 47186 Pvt JH Joslin 44276 Sgt H Jackson 11430 Pvt H Jackson 53143 Pvt AL Jenner 44267 Sgt E Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJS Posted 31 May , 2018 Author Share Posted 31 May , 2018 The full list from 2906 is below ... 1914-1915 Star RAMC Piece 2906: 43202 Pvt A Addinell 44004 Cpl G Arnott 43803 Pvt DW Anderson 44218 Pvt GF Butler 11178 Pvt B Brittain 10079 Bglr J Bird (Bugler?) 44335 Pvt CW Cavill 10994 Pvt H Clarkson 44514 Pvt SG Clarke 11091 Pvt H Clews 47010 Pvt FW Christmas 44326 Sgt G Cooke 61077 Pvt J Coady 44329 Pvt JE Cordaroy 11185 Pvt WH Cole 44017 Pvt F Cox 35209 Cpl W Cotter 45032 Cpl TJ Crawford 11190 Pvt J Caldwell 43849 Pvt C Caulton 43436 Pvt WC Davis 47112 Pvt W Davie 50375 Pvt HT Dodds 45043 Pvt AE Downes 49570 Pvt T Downing 43434 Sgt T Dixon Not clear to me why a Bugler was needed in the RAMC but he was sent to Egypt on 30-5-1915 nevertheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJS Posted 31 May , 2018 Author Share Posted 31 May , 2018 (edited) And just to round off this morning's postings, Leonard John Monks' service number was 11434 and the 4 men below are pulled from the lists above and have similar numbers (for what that's worth): 11430 Pvt H Jackson 11447 Pvt WH Tripp 11464 Pvt GCB Forge 11482 Pvt J Malone But there are no Service Records for any of these 4 men on Ancestry or FMP that I can find. Edited 31 May , 2018 by PJS Service Record Update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted 1 June , 2018 Share Posted 1 June , 2018 That's quite a list!! I think things are getter more complicated with regards to the date given for Date of Disembarkation which gives the date for the entitlement for the 1914-15 Star. Either for admin purposes they are rounding up men arriving in Egypt on different dates and assigning them the date of 30/5/1915. Or they are making a lot of mistakes. Or some men are assigned the date of 30/5/1915 when they leave a UK port. File for 61077 Coady says; enlisted 10/7/1915. Embarked 2/8/1915, disembarked Egypt 12/8/1915 but his medal roll states disembarked 30/5/1915. I don't mind going through a batch of numbers looking for files as long as we don't do the same batch. But I think the picture will become muddier as more files get found. TEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJS Posted 1 June , 2018 Author Share Posted 1 June , 2018 11 minutes ago, TEW said: That's quite a list!! I think things are getter more complicated with regards to the date given for Date of Disembarkation which gives the date for the entitlement for the 1914-15 Star. Either for admin purposes they are rounding up men arriving in Egypt on different dates and assigning them the date of 30/5/1915. Or they are making a lot of mistakes. Or some men are assigned the date of 30/5/1915 when they leave a UK port. File for 61077 Coady says; enlisted 10/7/1915. Embarked 2/8/1915, disembarked Egypt 12/8/1915 but his medal roll states disembarked 30/5/1915. I don't mind going through a batch of numbers looking for files as long as we don't do the same batch. But I think the picture will become muddier as more files get found. TEW Yes, it's a big list! I also noted a number of men with dates of 29-5-1915 arriving in Egypt. Not sure whether this means that there were two (or more) ships or whether one block of men did not disembark until the next day. Or, as you indicate, some kind of administration error. I am currently going through the entire list finding those men with Service Records. I am using the link below which allows a more rapid search. The site is owned by FMP but it's slightly cheaper to subscribe to since it's focused directly on WW1. It's free to search, free to view MiCs but you pay to see Service Records, etc. https://search.livesofthefirstworldwar.org/search/world-records/armed-forces-and-conflict?firstname=g&firstname_variants=true&lastname=holt&keywords=44431 I am almost done. Will post the revised list in about an hour - work permitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 1 June , 2018 Share Posted 1 June , 2018 It is unusual to find so many discrepencies in landing dates. Yes in the past I've found emebark date and land dates have been used but 'rounding' is new to me. Sorry not to be able to give more help in the digging! Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJS Posted 1 June , 2018 Author Share Posted 1 June , 2018 (edited) Here is what I have (excuse the formatting): Summary List of men with Service Records: 1914-1915 Star RAMC Piece 2908: 46841 Sgt WE Mason Y MiC William Ernest b.1890 40354 Pvt GA Morgan Y MiC George Albert b.1886 43968 Pvt R Phillipson Y MiC Richard 43898 Pvt W McEvoy Y MiC William 46937 Pvt E Leppard Y MiC Ernest 1914-1915 Star RAMC Piece 2909: 44078 Pvt W Schofield Y MiC William b.1884/b.1885 11270 Pvt JH Tonks Y X Joseph Henry 47155 Sgt W Tullett X MiCx2 William 11277 Pvt WJ Vine Y MiC William Joseph 43594 Pvt GH Williams Y MiC Griffiths H 7017 Pvt W Wilkinson X MiCx2 William 1914-1915 Star RAMC Piece 2907: 11293 Pvt A Farmer Y MiC Alfred 43928 Pvt F Hartley Y MiC Frederick Burnley 44431 Pvt G Holt Y MiC George, b.1894 11110 Pvt H Hewitt Y MiC Harry 1914-1915 Star RAMC Piece 2906: 44004 Cpl G Arnott Y MiC George b.1884 43803 Pvt DW Anderson Y MiC David Wilkie44335 Pvt CW Cavill Y MiC Charles William b.1890 10994 Pvt H Clarkson Y MiC Harold 11091 Pvt H Clews Y MiCx2 Harry61077 Pvt J Coady Y MiC Joseph b.189744329 Pvt JE Cordaroy Y MiC Edward Joseph b.1885 Full List of all men: 1914-1915 Star RAMC Piece 2908:46841 Sgt WE Mason Y MiC William Ernest b.1890 30206 Sgt AE Minter X MiC Albert E40354 Pvt GA Morgan Y MiC George Albert b.1886 44376 Pvt G Mooney X MiC George 43508 Pvt AC Mole X MiC Alfred C 11243 Pvt G Meagher X MiC George 32837 Pvt P Murphy X MiC Patrick 43268 Pvt F Mycock X MiC Frank 11128 Pvt WF Manser X MiC Wilson F 11482 Pvt J Malone X MiC John 44544 Pvt HA North X MiC Henry A 35154 Pvt S Ogden X MiC Sydney 45272 Cpl AA Overton X MiC Arthur A 43958 Pvt TW Padley X MiC Thomas W 43523 Pvt J Peacock X MiC John 45277 Pvt H Pearce X MiC Harry43968 Pvt R Phillipson Y MiC Richard 44551 Pvt C Pryor X MiC Charles T 45162 Cpl TE Pugh X MiC Thomas E43898 Pvt W McEvoy Y MiC William 43944 Pvt A McLean X MiC Alex 47148 Pvt J McKenzie X MiC James 11384 Pvt J McParland X MiC 45151 Cpl R Laws X MiC Robert 44949 Pvt J Ledson X MiC John 44375 Pvt SHG Lane X MiC Stephen HG46937 Pvt E Leppard Y MiC Ernest 33836 Pvt CF Lloyd X X 46575 Pvt TH Lord X MiC Thomas H 43940 Pvt AW Lee X MiC Alfred W 43943 Pvt J Leslie X MiC John 44274 Pvt JE Killick X MiC John E 11121 Pvt WS Kipling X MiC 1914-1915 Star RAMC Piece 2909:44078 Pvt W Schofield Y MiC William b.1884/b.1885 46611 Pvt A Shackleton X MiC Arnold43293 Pvt AE Smith Y MiC Arther Edward d.1917 11265 Pvt G Smith X MiCx2 George 43732 Pvt J Smith X MiCx2 James 44175 Pvt P Smethurst X MiC Percy 44554 Pvt F Sims X MiC Frederick 44552 Pvt JE Stainsby X MiC James E 45291 Cpl P Strike X MiC Phillip 43987 Pvt I Shepherd* X MiC Convicted FGCM 19/1/17 52066 Pvt AL Thompson X MiC 52066 L/Cpl AE Tipping X MiC Albert E11270 Pvt JH Tonks Y X Joseph Henry 47155 Sgt W Tullett X MiCx2 William 11447 Pvt WH Tripp X MiC Walter H 57933 Pvt JH Trumshaw X MiC 44978 Pvt W Turner X MiC William 45193 Cpl P Toss X X 11273 Pvt VW Vines X MiC11277 Pvt WJ Vine Y MiC William Joseph 46561 Cpl H Whittaker X MiC 44098 Sgt AB Whale X MiC Arthur B 43252 Pvt BH Wiliams X MiC Berwyn H43594 Pvt GH Williams Y MiC Griffiths H 11351 Pvt T Wilderspin X MiC Thomas 7017 Pvt W Wilkinson X MiCx2 William 44194 L/Cpl W Wilson X MiC William 11357 Pvt HA Wilson X MiC Henry A Star returned. Issued from Middx Roll. 43560 Pvt GT Walden X MiC George T 46579 Pvt E Watkins Y MiC Ernest b.1883 45100 Pvt AW White X MiC Alfred W 1914-1915 Star RAMC Piece 2907: 45130 Pvt F Edwards X MiC Francis11293 Pvt A Farmer Y MiC Alfred 49348 Pvt GTR Francis X MiC George TR 45402 Pvt H Firth X MiC Harry 36851 Sgt FJ Filsell X MiCx2 Frederick John 11464 Pvt GCB Forge X MiC George CB 47243 Cpl CL Gibbons X MiC Charles L 19009 Pvt A Gibb X MiC Arhibald 46060 Pvt W Golightly X MiC William 44036 Pvt R Grundy X MiC Ralph 46614 Pvt SC Greenhouse X MiC Sydney Charles 44346 Cpl G Grierson X MiC George 44992 Pvt TJ Hardwick X MiC Thomas J43928 Pvt F Hartley Y MiC Frederick Burnley 47608 Pvt JT Handcock X MiC John T 36401 Pvt WT Hallam X MiC William T 43468 Cpl FH Huddlestone X MiC Frank H 43245 Pvt SW Hodson X MiC Samuel W 54044 Cpl FJ Holden X MiC Frederick James 43480 Pvt F Holford X MiC Frank 51869 Pvt FJ Howe X MiC Frederick J 44040 Pvt J Hoey X MiC John44431 Pvt G Holt Y MiC George, b.1894 59919 Sgt CH Hooper X MiC ? 44359 Pvt JC Higdon X MiC Joseph C 59802 Pvt A Hilton X MiCx3 Arthur11110 Pvt H Hewitt Y MiC Harry 45081 Sgt JL Jones X MiC John L 47186 Pvt JH Joslin X MiC 1914-1915 Star RAMC Piece 2906: 43202 Pvt A Addinell X MiC Arthur44004 Cpl G Arnott Y MiC George b.188443803 Pvt DW Anderson Y MiC David Wilkie 44218 Pvt GF Butler X MiC George F11178 Pvt B Brittain Y MiC Bert 10079 Bglr J Bird (Bugler?) X MiC John44335 Pvt CW Cavill Y MiC Charles William b.1890 10994 Pvt H Clarkson Y MiC Harold 44514 Pvt SG Clarke X MiC11091 Pvt H Clews Y MiCx2 Harry 47010 Pvt FW Christmas X MiC Frederick W 44326 Sgt G Cooke X MiC George61077 Pvt J Coady Y MiC Joseph b.1897 44329 Pvt JE Cordaroy Y MiC Edward Joseph b.1885 11185 Pvt WH Cole X MiC Walter H 44017 Pvt F Cox X X 35209 Cpl W Cotter X MiC William 45032 Cpl TJ Crawford X MiC Thomas J 11190 Pvt J Caldwell X MiC Joseph 43849 Pvt C Caulton X MiC Charles 43436 Pvt WC Davis X MiC William C 47112 Pvt W Davie X MiC William 50375 Pvt HT Dodds X MiC Henry T 45043 Pvt AE Downes X MiC 49570 Pvt T Downing X MiC Thomas 43434 Sgt T Dixon X MiC Edited 14 July , 2018 by PJS Added links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJS Posted 1 June , 2018 Author Share Posted 1 June , 2018 46 minutes ago, charlie962 said: It is unusual to find so many discrepencies in landing dates. Yes in the past I've found emebark date and land dates have been used but 'rounding' is new to me. Sorry not to be able to give more help in the digging! Charlie Perhaps (hopefully) some clarity will emerge if we can analyze some more records. 1 hour ago, TEW said: I don't mind going through a batch of numbers looking for files as long as we don't do the same batch. But I think the picture will become muddier as more files get found. TEW I think that I am done for the day (I really must do some work) but I will take the list from 2906 and find their Service Records. Thank you both again for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted 2 June , 2018 Share Posted 2 June , 2018 When you're faced with the issue in these two images for 61077 Coady in Piece 2906 I don't think you're going to resolve any service for Monk this way. Just because Monk's Medal Roll says he arrived in Egypt 30/5/1915 doesn't mean he did! so trying to match his service to another man's Medal Roll (EG Coady) who 'arrived' in Egypt 30/5/1915 is flawed. I have noticed a few of the men in the lists arrived in Egypt (on different dates) but came under 21 GH or 17 GH. Those diaries are not digitised but perhaps they might note something on these men. I realise that's impossible from your location, sorry. TEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 2 June , 2018 Share Posted 2 June , 2018 Thinking about it, the number of men on that RAMC roll with Egypt 30/5/15 seemed suspiciously large anyway. I agree that in this case the exercise is flawed; normally it is reasonable. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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