Guest Pete Wood Posted 7 January , 2005 Share Posted 7 January , 2005 Who am I....?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pete Wood Posted 7 January , 2005 Share Posted 7 January , 2005 Close up of front row sailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGEL Posted 7 January , 2005 Share Posted 7 January , 2005 Is it you Pete ??? Did they get your birthday age correct afterall ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broznitsky Posted 7 January , 2005 Share Posted 7 January , 2005 It's T.E. I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted 7 January , 2005 Share Posted 7 January , 2005 (edited) Lawrence of Arabia. T. E. Lawrence. Aye Malcolm beaten by Broznitsky. Edited 7 January , 2005 by Malcolm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essexboy68 Posted 7 January , 2005 Share Posted 7 January , 2005 Either he really didn't change much as he aged, or I'm getting better at this identification lark.... By the way, speaking of T E Lawrence, one of the surviving British veterans claims to have flown with him, is this possible? I know that Lawrence enlisted as an OR in the RAF after the war using the name Ross, but never heard he flew. Any information, as always, gratefully received. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hootsmon Posted 7 January , 2005 Share Posted 7 January , 2005 I knew it all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGWR Posted 7 January , 2005 Share Posted 7 January , 2005 Great picture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 8 January , 2005 Share Posted 8 January , 2005 Lawrence of Arabia. T. E. Lawrence. Aye Malcolm beaten by Broznitsky. Absolutely - super pic. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Gordon Posted 8 January , 2005 Share Posted 8 January , 2005 Essexboy68 TE served for a while with the RAF Air Sea Rescue Group in the Firth of Forth area He was nominally based at Donibristle 'Drome but spent most of his time at the "RAF Jetty" at Inverkeithing. I must have seen him there when I was a small boy swimming at the Jetty but knew nothing about him then. By coincidence my next door neighbour after I was married had been his CO and his daughter still has a letter to Bill sent to him shortly before TE was killed. Apparently TE used to appear in the local Fish & Chip Shop on Friday's according to my cousin who, being a good deal older than me, remembers him very well but he could be having me on. I knew nothing about this until I got married and was quite astonished when Bill, his CO, told me. It was not unusual for TE and him to go to the "Pictures" together in Dunfermline. The Air Sea Rescue Group left the area to cover the Schneider Trophy Race in the south of England. Regards Jim Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essexboy68 Posted 8 January , 2005 Share Posted 8 January , 2005 Jim Thanks for the info, always interesting to hear more about this man. Is anyone able to shed light on whether T E ever flew in an aircraft during WW1? Cheers Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pete Wood Posted 8 January , 2005 Share Posted 8 January , 2005 Yes, TEL flew during the war. He also flew after the war and was involved in an aeroplane crash, in a Handley Page bomber, while flying from Paris to Cairo (allegedly) - after the peace talks had ended. The flight is still surrounded in mystery, and the crash near Pisa unexplained. The pilot (died instantly) and co-pilot of the aeroplane were killed: Name: PRINCE, FREDERICK GEORGE Initials: F G Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Second Lieutenant Regiment: Royal Air Force Unit Text: 58th Sqdn. Age: 27 Date of Death: 17/05/1919 Additional information: Only son of Frederick John and Elizabeth Prince, of 47, Rosendale Rd., Dulwich, London. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: 1563. Cemetery: ROME (TESTACCIO) PROTESTANT CEMETERY Name: SPRATT, SIDNEY Initials: S Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Second Lieutenant Regiment: Royal Air Force Unit Text: 58th Sqdn. Age: 19 Date of Death: 17/05/1919 Additional information: Son of Henry and Sarah Spratt, of 217, Sea View Rd., Wallasey, Cheshire. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: 1564. Cemetery: ROME (TESTACCIO) PROTESTANT CEMETERY TEL sustained a broken collar bone, broken ribs and mild concussion. TEL also had a few lessons in a dual control Tiger Moth, in 1929, but preferred the thrill of his motorbike to flying. Who was your veteran? Perhaps we can nail down the flight concerned.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Posted 8 January , 2005 Share Posted 8 January , 2005 Is it not true that his brother was a fighter pilot during WW1, from memory I think he had 'Gone West' as it were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essexboy68 Posted 8 January , 2005 Share Posted 8 January , 2005 Rigger William Roberts, 104 Signed up aged 15 after his father was killed at the Somme in 1916, joining the Royal Flying Corps. Worked as an aircraft fitter and claims to have flown with TE Lawrence. Later became a local authority transport manager. Lives in Jacksdale, Notts. The above taken from the Observer Sunday 14th November 2004 Pete This is the veteran I am talking about, it caught my attention for obvious reasons. Hope this helps you. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Saunders Posted 8 January , 2005 Share Posted 8 January , 2005 Is it not true that his brother was a fighter pilot during WW1, from memory I think he had 'Gone West' as it were No its not true! TEL's younger brother, William, was an observer although he would almost certainly have gone on to pilot training had he survived. He was KIA with Cecil Marks (pilot) 23 Oct 1915. He is buried at St. Souplet, close to another brother of a famous WW1 hero, John Anthony McCudden MC, brother of Jimmy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pete Wood Posted 9 January , 2005 Share Posted 9 January , 2005 Rigger William Roberts, 104 Signed up aged 15 after his father was killed at the Somme in 1916, joining the Royal Flying Corps. Worked as an aircraft fitter and claims to have flown with TE Lawrence. Later became a local authority transport manager. Lives in Jacksdale, Notts. The above taken from the Observer Sunday 14th November 2004 Pete This is the veteran I am talking about, it caught my attention for obvious reasons. Hope this helps you. Mark Hmmm. Lawrence didn't have a pilot's licence. Neither, I assume, did Roberts. So, if the story is correct, they must have flown in a large(ish) aeroplane, capable of carrying at least three people. Now that doesn't leave many options (most WW1 aeroplanes were two seaters). So I am guessing that the flight was probably post-war. In the aeroplane crash (at Centocelle) I mentioned, above, the report says that TEL was in the back of the aeroplane, accompanied by two airmen..... When did Roberts leaves the RFC/RAF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essexboy68 Posted 9 January , 2005 Share Posted 9 January , 2005 Pete I am afraid that I have no other information on Mr Roberts. However, I am sure someone, somewhere will will be able to shed more light on this........... Cheers Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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