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RND Able Seaman Identified


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The remains of Able Seaman James Cameron Robertson,  Clyde Z17/27 of the Anson Battalion RND killed in action at Gavrelle on 28 April 1917 have been successfully identified through DNA testing:

 

https://stv.tv/news/north/1413469-scots-wwi-sailor-to-be-buried-101-years-after-death/

 

He is to be re-interred on 11 July next.

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Good news!! 

Thanks for sharing!! 

M.

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This also featured in Thursday's (27th April '18) Daily Telegraph which gave that the final identification had been confirmed by a DNA comparison with that of his sole surviving relative.  From reporting in Aberdeen's Evening Express

 

Mystery deepens over remains of Aberdeen WW1 soldier as EE archives reveal he died in hospital'

 

it appears that the circumstances of his death may originally have been mis-reported  by them as its archive from May 1917 gave that he'd died of wounds in a French hospital (see link above), whereas AB Robertson's remains had, at least according to the JCCC, been discovered in what had been a GW trench situation during more recent pipe laying operations.  Possibly a war diary - if available - might give some details on the circumstances of his death (maybe this is how the JCCC were able to narrow the search down to two possibilities).

 

For completeness: The Evening Express's initial reporting of the appeal for relatives:  Appeal launched to trace Aberdeen family of WW1 soldier after remains found in France

 

and further reports from BBC Scotland 100 year-old remains belong to one of two Scots soldiers  

 

Scottish sailor's remains found in France identified 100 years on

 

NigelS

 

 

 

 

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Could it be the other that was lost?

 

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1574004/irvine,-andrew-turner/

 

We would need to see the test results.

 

This puzzles me: (was it dated February 2018 beforen the DNA tests?)

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The spokeswoman added: “Even though it is looking much less likely that it is James’ remains that we have found, we will still keep searching for a next of kin, just in case.

“James was, previous to this article, our strongest candidate.”

 

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Report of 28th and 29th:

 

Ancestry war diary

 

There were 140 missing.

 

There are 31 from the Royal Naval Reserve Division missing on that date (25 Anson alone), but the CWGC would not have known the date. He must have been identified as Anson Battalion? But there were too many of them? What else did they know?

 

Anson 25:

 

Anson Bn.

ARCHER ROBERT R 21   28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
ARMSTRONG JOHN J 19   28/04/1917   Petty Officer Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve
BLACKLOCK JOSEPH J     28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn
CAYGILL RICHARD R     28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
DAVIS OWEN O     28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
DEWAR ROBERT R 21   28/04/1917   Leading Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
HITCHEN EZRA MAJOR E M 27   28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
HUGHES GEORGE HENRY WILLIAM G H W     28/04/1917   Sub-Lieutenant Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
HUGHES WILLIAM HUGH W H     28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
IRVINE ANDREW TURNER A T     28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
JACKSON WILLIAM W 23   28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
JOHNSTON JOSEPH J 33   28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
LIMB THOMAS T 21   28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn..
LOADER THOMAS HALL T H 22   28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
MOSLEY LANCELOT BROWN L B 26   28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
McALINDEN JOHN J 19   28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
McKENZIE THOMAS T 22   28/04/1917   Leading Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
PRYOR ALBERT A 24   28/04/1917   Petty Officer Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
RAINBOW WILLIE EDMUND W E 23   28/04/1917   Petty Officer Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
ROBERTSON JAMES CAMERON J C 28   28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
SINGLETON JOHN J 21   28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
SLATER CHARLES C     28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
TASKER WILLIAM W     28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.
THOMPSON WILLIAM W     28/04/1917   Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Anson Bn.

The other 5 from Howe:

 

EVANS WILLIAM JOSEPH W J   28/04/1917   Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Howe Bn.
MARSHALL JOHN J     28/04/1917   Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Howe Bn.
RAMSAY JOHN BRYCE J B 20   28/04/1917   Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Howe Bn.
STEWART ROBERT R 19   28/04/1917   Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Howe Bn.
WATSON JOHN FLEMING J F     28/04/1917   Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Howe Bn.
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