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Charles william redler 3321 241356


BIFFO

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I cannot make out what's written on MIC, don't know when/where he fought

his medal roll doesn't say when he left other than at the top of the page 1919.when record written ?

I do know where he was born. Stayed,

medal roll normally says when joined/left

this just says infantry base depot, as much use as a chocolate soldier

why would he have two service numbers when he stayed in the 5th battalion then 4th/5th battalion. have been unable to find a war diary for the 5th batt welsh reg on a well known family research site so I'm stuffed so to speak !!!

any help would be good 

:poppy:

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OOPS FORGOT TO POST MIC
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1 hour ago, BIFFO said:

cannot make out what's written on MIC,

'still no trace Star Roll'

 

the other note is 'see CW Ridler' and on that MIC, there is noted Pte 241356, 1/5th Welsh R

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I suspect he might be the Charles William Redler who was born 1881 Bristol. 1911 Census shows him living Glamorgan.

 

FMP has the following military hits worth following up ?

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41 minutes ago, charlie962 said:

'still no trace Star Roll'

 

the other note is 'see CW Ridler' and on that MIC, there is noted Pte 241356, 1/5th Welsh R

 

Both the original MIC and this one note on the rear "Organising Secretary  (org sec) British Legion Wales Area forward application for 15 Star 15/05/1928" hence the notation on the front of the MIC. Sadly the 1914-15 Star rolls are compiled by name rather than number so you can't even look at the numbers near his to see if he has a Star entry but it looks like a check was made with negative results when the inquiry was made in 1928.

 

Sam

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Thank you chaps, :thumbsup:

Charlie 962 that's my man have all his civilian details, funny thing is I cannot find him on 1901 census, have him on

1881 -1891-1911 will try and track him through his mother/father, as to war diary will use 53rd welsh division, but still unable to find when he joined/left

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18 hours ago, BIFFO said:

funny thing is I cannot find him on 1901

Thats probably because he enlisted 1900 and was possibly in South Africa ?

Charlie

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Hi Biffo,

 

On ‎16‎/‎04‎/‎2018 at 17:22, BIFFO said:

have been unable to find a war diary for the 5th batt welsh reg on a well known family research site

 

For their time in Gallipoli, the diary link is here. The diary says that they were evacuated, arriving at Mudros on 13th November 1915, before moving to Egypt - arriving at Alexandria on 18th December 1915.  I don't believe units serving in that theatre kept war diaries.

 

23 hours ago, roughdiamond said:

Sadly the 1914-15 Star rolls are compiled by name rather than number so you can't even look at the numbers near his to see if he has a Star entry but it looks like a check was made with negative results when the inquiry was made in 1928.

 

If he had been entitled to a Star, presumably it would have been issued against his (pre 1917 renumber) 3321 number. Searching the Star rolls using just the 3321 number you get these 'hits'. His name does not appear in the results.

 

Looking at his British War/Victory Medals roll it looks like the men of the 5th Bn received their 6 digit 1917 renumber, based sequentially on their previous four digit number. For example:

 

3319 became 241354

3320 became 241355

3321 became 241356

3330 became 241359

3352 became 241367

3361 became 241372

 

Looking at a few of the records for 5th Bn men with an original 4 digit 33** number you get:

 

3311 - attested 12.11.1914

3318 - attested 16.11.1914

3321 -

3325 - attested 16.11.1914

3327 - attested 17.11.1914

3328 - attested 17.11.1914

3329 - attested 17.11.1914

3335 - attested 14.01.1915

3361 - attested 04.02.1915

3386 - attested 23.02.1915

 

Regards

Chris

 

 

 

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thank you all for your help, :thumbsup:

I have found a chap in 1901 welsh census same name correct age,living with his uncle in Merthyr,an underground hauler ,same employment

Charlie what makes you think he would be in sunny south Africa ?. 

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1 hour ago, BIFFO said:

Charlie what makes you think he would be in sunny south Africa ?. 

the hits on FindmyPast in my post 4 above. Haven't got a sub so cannot see the detail.

Charlie

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