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Here is a new addition to my collection. 

A new Ww1 face armor for MG machine gunner (Splitterschutz). 

An extremely rare model improvised from the previous model I have posted allready. 

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On 03/08/2019 at 12:03, zuluwar2006 said:

Here is a new addition to my collection. 

A new Ww1 face armor for MG machine gunner (Splitterschutz). 

An extremely rare model improvised from the previous model I have posted allready. 

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On 15/07/2019 at 03:37, Jools mckenna said:

I would like to get the armour expects opinion of this. I have a photo of 2 named German officers and one of which is wearing something that looks like one of the french skull caps. Is it one or is my imagination?

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A French squad demonstrates how to wear the new skull cap.  The normal kepi would then be worn over top.  

The French Army had suffered massive casualties since August.  Medical personnel noted that many of the wounded and dead showed injuries to the head.  Shrapnel balls and bursting debris could easily maim or kill a man if they hit him in the head, and the cloth caps that soldiers wore offered no protection.  Even the spiked German pickelhaube helmet was only made from leather and offered no practical protection. 

One French general, Louis Adrian, proposed a solution to reduce the amount of casualties.  Adrian had noticed that reports from the front noted that mess tins, made from metal, usually stopped shrapnel and sometimes inadvertently saved lives. He designed a  metal skullcap, or une cervelière, to offer some protection.  At first, the French supply corps argued that the war would be over before any helmet could be issued, but Adrian persisted and the design was approved in December, and the condition that it be rudimentary and easy to make.  The first skullcaps were received on the front in January.

The little metal cap was intended to be worn under the kepi, the blue French infantry hat.  However, many troops took to wearing the skullcap on top for better comfort.  The little helmet, nicknamed “the brainpan” by the troops, was made in three sizes and had holes drilled in the sides so that it could be hung from a cord. The troops found that it made an alright pan for cooking, as well as an emergency chamber pot. 

700,000 were produced and 200,000 issued by February.  It offered better protection than nothing, but Adrian knew that something more developed was required, and set to work on a new infantry helmet.

 

 

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A very interesting photo of an Austro-Hungarian armored train. Note the size of the train compared to the soldier and the cannon positioned to defend the front side. The train was also provided laterally by some loopholes for machine guns. Eastern front. 

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Saxon infantrymen from either Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 101 or Landwehr-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 101, pose outside a dugout capable of accommodating twelve soldiers. Testimony to the fact this is a frontline position are the 3 Grabenkeule (trench clubs) hanging on the walls of their trench. The prospect of hand-to-hand combat was quite real for these men.

Trench clubs were used by all sides and typically were manufactured in a regiment's Tischler Werkstattsomewhere behind the lines.

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An American soldier wearing a steel helmet with visor and a body armor. 

France, Boucq, 12 June 1918.

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A very rare photograph with a german soldier with a Trench club (grabenkeule). 

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Two Austrian officers in Caporreto, the one on the right, is holding a Trench club (grabenkeule). 

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MY NEW ADITTION ON TRENCH CLUBS [GRABENKEULE]

A VERY RARE AND ORIGINAL TYPE OF GRABENKEULE, WITH SPRING COIL AND SQUARE IRON HEAD.

NOTE THE END OF THE WOODEN HANDLE WITH THE IRON FINISH, IN WHICH THE COIL IS ATTACHED. 

REGARDS

D.

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Hey Demitrios 

You have that huge post on your rare bayonet collection

You also have a nice collection of scarce to rare trench clubs and body armor. Have you started a large post on these clubs/ armor like you have on the bayonets. It would be great to see different types, explain what is rare or not, what to look 

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Thank you Steve!!! 

More than 2 decades of collecting all over Europe!!! 

This is a rare photo of a Ww1 german or Austrian soldier, with a grabenkeule (Trench club) with coil spring. 

Regards

D. 

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On 16/07/2019 at 04:30, Dave1418 said:

An excellent image especially the pre war revolver and picklehaub plate on the front of the steel helmet 

 I was researching this particular body armor  and found this thread and the reference to this pattern as used in Weimar Germany.

 

I obtained a set of this style armor circa 1990. It is missing the lower lames. The armor is actually identified as Polish and designated WZ 16 according to some.  The only reference I have found is in the Kijak book on Polish helmets and the few other images I've found are captioned as being from Warsaw, dated 1930-1934. This photo as well as the other in this thread illustrating this armor are actually of Polish police circa 1930s. The eagle on the helmet is not a Pickelhaube plate but the large Polish state emblem (in the photos posted below, a smaller eagle is worn)  . 

 

The designation WZ 16 implies the original pattern date of 1916. So the question is, was this a WWI era issued body armor (and if so, by whom - Germany, Russia, Austria or the Poles themselves?), or designed during the war and not manufactured or, if produced and issued, not in any great numbers.  

 

I'd really like to find a photo of this armor in use during WWI and that might answer some of my questions.

 

 

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On 08/12/2020 at 17:56, PJ13 said:

 I was researching this particular body armor  and found this thread and the reference to this pattern as used in Weimar Germany.

 

I obtained a set of this style armor circa 1990. It is missing the lower lames. The armor is actually identified as Polish and designated WZ 16 according to some.  The only reference I have found is in the Kijak book on Polish helmets and the few other images I've found are captioned as being from Warsaw, dated 1930-1934. This photo as well as the other in this thread illustrating this armor are actually of Polish police circa 1930s. The eagle on the helmet is not a Pickelhaube plate but the large Polish state emblem (in the photos posted below, a smaller eagle is worn)  . 

 

The designation WZ 16 implies the original pattern date of 1916. So the question is, was this a WWI era issued body armor (and if so, by whom - Germany, Russia, Austria or the Poles themselves?), or designed during the war and not manufactured or, if produced and issued, not in any great numbers.  

 

I'd really like to find a photo of this armor in use during WWI and that might answer some of my questions.

 

 

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Dear friend, 

Excellent research you have made, I have to search deeper in my archives to see if I have anything to help you on this. 

Regards

D. 

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An extremely rare photo, which recently sold for 700 euros on eBay. 

A german soldier, posing, wearing a Grabenpanzer (Trench armor) and an elephant mask for the protection of his face. 

A very rare combination. 

The smaller colored photo is from the site of our friend, member in here, humanbonb. 

Regards

D. 

 

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A VERY RARE FRENCH TRENCH CLUB.

This ounded on Arras.

Very flexible, as you an see on photos.

it has the number 2 on the iron ball.

47 m long

1 kg weight.

diameter of the spring oil is 27 m.

very durable construction and with great flexibility.

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Hi there everyone,

 

i have this WW1 faceplate , but not sure if original, can an expert perhaps WhatsApp me ?

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thank you 

 

 

 

jens 

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A very rare ww1 photo. 

British soldiers with german trophies, bayonets, helmets and a grabenkeule. 

Regards

D. 

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Another rare photo with german soldiers with grabenkeules (trench clubs). 

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An austrian ww1 trench club. 

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Some interesting photos and schedules from the italian trench body armor and "farina" trench head shield. 

 

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Some rare photos.

ww1 soldiers with grabenkeule and trench armors. 

Regards

D. 

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