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WW1 GERMAN BAYONETS FROM MY COLLECTION


zuluwar2006

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STEVE, THANK YOU FOR THE NICE WORDS.

YES, IF SOMEONE WNT TO PUBLISHED ANY ERSATZ BOOK, OR FOR REGIMENTAL MARKINGS, I AM WILLING TO LET HIM USE MY BAYONETS FOR PHOTOS.

NOW, ABOUT BROKEN RIBS, YOU HAVE TO STAY AT LEAST 3 WEEKS IN BED,, SO YOU WILL NOT SUFFER FROM PAIN.

IS VERY UNPLEASENT FEELING, AND YOU CANNOT GET OME DESCENT SLEEP FROM PAIN.

BE WELL...

I AM PREPARING YOUR ROOM WITH A LOT OF BAYONETS...

MANY THANKS, D.

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THANKS, it 0100 my time,it feels better sitting than lying down,got to go bed some time

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A VERY RARE TRANSITIONAL 98/05 BAYONET Na SAWBACK WITHOU FLASHGUARD.

DATE = 1915

MANUFACTURER = SIMSON SUHL

I.S.B.1160 SAME UNIT MARKING ON CROSSGUARD AND SCABBARD

I SEA BATAILLON

Seebataillon (plural Seebataillone), literally "sea battalion", is a German term for certain troops of naval infantry or marines. It was used by the Prussian Navy

The first force that could be sent to China was the Marine Expedition Corps ("Marine Expeditionskorps") made up of the complete I. and II. Seebataillone. They arrived in China in August 1900 just ahead of the full East Asian Expeditionary Corps. They were then incorporated into the 1st East Asian Infantry Brigade of the East Asian Expeditionary Corps as the Combined Marine Infantry Regiment. They were returned to Germany in 1901.

The Herero Rebellion, German South West Africa 1904-05
In January 1904 two companies each from the I. and II. Seebataillone along with additional naval artillery and medical personnel were formed into a Marine Expedition Corps under the command of Major Glasenapp for service in German South West Africa against the Herero Rebellion. Once in Africa the four companies were divided amongst Schutztruppe formations. They saw heavy action and suffered casualties in various actions against the Herero, although they also suffered just as heavily from disease and the harsh climate. In March 1905 they returned to Germany.

The Maji-Maji Rebellion, German East Africa 1905-07
In August 1905 one company each from the I. and II. Seebataillone were formed into a Marine Expedition Corps under Hauptmann von Schlichting for service in German East Africa as the Maji-Maji Rebellion spread across the colony. Once again the Seebataillon troops were split up amongst different Schutztruppe units. They did not see heavy action and returned to Germany in early 1907.

The Western Front, Flanders 1914-18
In 1914 the I. and II. Seebataillone were sent to the Western front to occupy the far Northern edge of the frontline along the Flanders coast. The I. and II. Seebataillone were each expanded with reservists to form the 1st and 2nd Marine Infantry Regiments respectively, while the remnants of the Marine Detachment Skutari (now known as the 10th Seebataillon) formed the 3rd Marine Infantry Regiment. Together they made up the Marine Infantry Brigade, as part of the Marine Infantry Division of the Marinekorps Flandern. By December 1914 the term Seebataillon was dropped from usage. The Marinekorps Flandern was involved in much heavy fighting including defending against the Zeebrugge Raid in April 1918. They continued to hold the Flanders coastline up until the armistice in November 1918. 

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A PLAIN aA 98/05 BAYONET

DATE = 1915

UNIT MARKING J.R.16.663

MANUFACTURER = G. HAENEL SUHL

16th (3rd Westphalian) Infantry "Baron Sparr"

On mobilization in August 1914 at the beginning of World War I, most divisional cavalry, including brigade headquarters, was withdrawn to form cavalry divisions or split up among divisions as reconnaissance units. Divisions received engineer companies and other support units from their higher headquarters. The 14th Division was again renamed the 14th Infantry Division and sent its 28th Infantry Brigade to the 14th Reserve Division. Its initial wartime organization was as follows:

  • 27. Infanterie-Brigade:
    • Infanterie-Regiment Freiherr von Sparr (3. Westfälisches) Nr. 16
    • 5. Westfälisches Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 53
  • 79. Infanterie-Brigade:
    • Infanterie-Regiment Vogel von Falckenstein (7. Westfälisches) Nr. 56
    • Infanterie-Regiment Herzog Ferdinand von Braunschweig (8. Westfälisches) Nr. 57
  • 3.Eskadron/Ulanen-Regiment Hennigs von Treffenfeld (Altmärkisches) Nr. 16
  • 14. Feldartillerie-Brigade:
    • 1. Westfälisches Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr. 7
    • Klevesches Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr. 43
  • 2. Kompanie/Westfälisches Pionier-Bataillon Nr. 7
  • 3. Kompanie/Westfälisches Pionier-Bataillon Nr. 7

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a fine ersatz bayonet

unit marked Rekruten Depot

shown on Roy Williams book for Ersatz bayonets

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an ersatz Greek 1904 bayonet,

one of 3.000 converted by Germans in WWI,

the hilt is modified to fit the 1898 Mauser,

usually the unmodified scabbard is marked with German inspection stamp

on this specimen, the scabbard has long time ago gonne.

a very rare ersatz bayonet, in small numbers made.

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an aA sawback 98/05 bayonet

date - 1906

manufacturer = ERFURT

G.P.4.4.

Guard Pioneer Bataillon

Very rare unit marking 

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AN aA SAWBACK 98/05 BAYONET

DATE = 1906

MANUFACTURER = ERFURT

UNIT MARKING = 14.P. 3.160

FOR THE 14TH PIONEER BATAILLON

Badisches Pionier-Bataillon Nr.14 from the Grand Duchy of Baden (Das Großherzogtum Baden).

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A RARE ERSATZ SOCKET [ERSOC, FROM THE WORDS ERSATZ AND SOCKET] BAYONET WITH ORIGINAL SCABBARD.

THE BAYONET HAS A BLADE PROBABLY FROM A RUSSIAN m 1856 BAYONET MADE IN LIEGE

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AN EXTREMELY RARE ERSATZ SOCKET BAYONET WITH 2 PIECE CAST STEEL HILT AND NINE DIAGONAL GROOVES.

VERY RARE BAYONET.

ES 9 04  ON ROY WILLIAMSN BOOK ABOUT ERSATZ BAYONETS

THE BLADE IS A BAVARIAN M 1858 SOCKET BLADE

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On 05/07/2018 at 07:44, zuluwar2006 said:

an extremely rare modification

the originality o this extremely rare convertion, is proofed by the marking on the crossguard

4.G.I I = Garde Regimetn zu Fuss, 2nd Bataillon

 

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fellow collectors

finally this bayonet was at first designed to fit the Modelo Argentino 1879 Remington Rolling-Block Infantry Rifle.

a very rare - unique bayonet, converted to fit the gewehr 88 OR 71/84 rifle.

THIS IS THE ONLY BAYONET WHICH HAVE EVER FOUND UNTIL TODAY.
It is very similar to the French Model 1866 Chassepot Bayonet - as are so many others - except that this bayonet has a straight blade where the French bayonet has a curved yataghanblade. The French bayonet also has a wider spine, usually inscribed - in French - with an arsenal name, month, and year of manufacture; the Argentine pieces do not boast this.
According to "Janzen's Notebook" these bayonets were also used by Uruguay.
These are extremely well-made German manufactured pieces. 

Overall length - out of scabbard - is ~23-1/4"; 

Hilt is ~4-3/4" in length (including crossguard thickness, but not quillon), ~4" at widest point (crossguard including quillon); solid brass handle with steel furniture; no markings were found on this specimen; 14 raised ribs (15 grooves); spring-steel latching mechanism. 

Straight blade is ~18-7/8" long, ~1" wide at ricasso; single fuller on both sides of the blade.

 

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AN ERSATZ CHASSEPOT 1866 BAYONET, WITH A TRIPLE STEPPED HILT, TO ADJUST ON A GEWEHR 88 RIFLE.

UNALLTERED MUZZLE RING.

THESE ALTERATIONS ALLOWED THE CROSSGUARD TO FIT OVER THE MUZZLE, THE BACK OF THE HILT TO SIT CLOSE AGAINST THE BARREL JACKET, AND THE POMMEL TO SLIDE OVER THE GEWEHR'S 88 SHORT ATTachment bar.

unit markings are extremely rare to see on this modification.

only 7 speciments have been catalogued until today.

Unit marking for 13th Train Abteilung, 1st Ersatz Abteilung

13th Train Abteilung = the Wurrtembergische Train Abteilung

It was raised on 20.10.1871

stationned at Ludwigsburg

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same unit marking on a 98/05 nA bayonet plain

MGK.51 [machinegewehr kompagnie]

date W 1918

very rare to see such a unit marking, made during the last year of ww1

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a very rare converted from aA to nA and with sawback removed, 98/05 plain bayonet

unit marked = 3.P.3.23

for the 3d Pionner bataillon

date = 1907

very rare to see converted aA to nA and at the same time with the sawback removed,

this is proof of using this bayonet during ww1.

 

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an ersatz bayonet

with rare war time unit marking= E.B.L.J.R.72.362

for Ersatz Bataillon Landwehr Infanterie Regiment No 72, number of soldier 362

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A PLAIN 98/05 aA BAYONET

WITH RARE BAVARIAN UNIT MARKINGS ON IT, AND WAR TIME.

rare to see bavarian marked bayonet, with prussian cypher [W 1915]

11TH BAVARIAN INFANTRY REGIMENT, I ERSATZ RESERVE

11th Royal Bavarian Infantry "von der Tann"

It was part of the III Royal Bavarian Army Corps / III Bavarian AK (German: III. Königlich Bayerisches Armee-Korps).

This was a corps level command of the Royal Bavarian Army, part of the German Army, before and during World War I

On mobilisation, III Royal Bavarian Corps was assigned to the predominantly Bavarian 6th Army forming part of the left wing of the forces for the Schlieffen Plan offensive in August 1914.

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Quite a nice collection you have, worth getting them mounted?

 

Dave

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1 hour ago, casperdog said:

Quite a nice collection you have, worth getting them mounted?

 

Dave

DAVE, IF I MOUNTED THEM, THEN A DIVORCE IS FOR SURE FROM MY WIFE!!!!!!

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A VERY RARE ERSATZ FRENCH 1874 GRAS BAYONET

EB 117 ON CARTER'S BOOK

VERY FEW FROM THIS MODEL HAVE BEEN RECORDED SINCE TODAY.

THE EDGES WERE SHAPED TO FIT AGAINST THE BARREL JACKT OF THE GEWEHR 88.

THE BACK OF THE POMMEL HAVE BEEN SLIGHTY LOWERED, COMPARED WITH MODEL EB 116.

ALSO WE NOTICE THEY HAVE MACHINING AWAY PART OF THE CROSSGUARD, IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THE MUZZLE RING.

 

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A PLAIN BAVARIAN MARKED 98/05 aA

DATE 1911

MARKED "O" FOR OTTO, KING OF BAVARIA.

UNIT MARKING = B.3.A.F.3.95

1st Royal Bavarian Foot Artillery "vakant Bothmer"

IT WAS PART OF THE 1ST ROYAL BAVARIAN CORPS.

On mobilization, on 2 August 1914, the Corps was restructured. 1st Cavalry Brigade was withdrawn to form part of the Bavarian Cavalry Division and the 2nd Cavalry Brigade was broken up and its regiments assigned to the divisions as reconnaissance units. Divisions received engineer companies and other support units from the Corps headquarters. In summary, I Bavarian Corps mobilised with 25 infantry battalions, 8 machine gun companies (48 machine guns), 8 cavalry squadrons, 24 field artillery batteries (144 guns), 4 heavy artillery batteries (16 guns), 3 pioneer companies and an aviation detachment.

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A VERY RARE 98/05 WITH SCABBARD.

RARE BEACAUSE IT IS MARKED WITH THE "FA" FOR THE KING OF SAXONY

UNIT MARK ON CROSSGUARD = R.P.I.197

RESERVE PIONEER BATAILLON FURST RADZIWILL NR. 1 [1ST OSTPREUSSISCHES]

VARY RARE TO FIND SAXON MARKED 98/02 BAYONET.

THE SCABBARD IS MARKED WITH 3.P.3.61

FOR THE 3 PIONEER BATAILLON VON RAUCH [1ST BRANDEMBURGISCHES]

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AN EXTREMELY RARE ERSATZ SOCKET BAYONET WITH 2 PIECE CAST STEEL HILT AND NINE DIAGONAL GROOVES.

VERY RARE BAYONET.

with an english 1853 blade [probably].

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a very rare PFM 65/71 bayonet with scabbard

Manufacturer = V. JUNG and SUHL

Date = 1868 on the spine of the blade

also the same date on the back of the crossguard

unit marking = 1.T.2.23

which is for the Telegraphen Bataillon 1

scabbard has unit marking E.B.A.3.171

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a very rare PFM 65/71 bayonet without scabbard

Manufacturer = V. JUNG and S. SUHL

Date = 1869 on the spine of the blade

also the same date on the back of the crossguard

unit marking = R.P.8.117

which is for the Reserve Pioneer Bataillon 8 [1st Reinisches]

 

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