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Heinrich von Reichenbach

Dear Forum Members

Tomorrow there will be the 100th anniversary of death of the first of my three great uncles (they were brothers) who as Prussian officers lost their lives in WWI:

 

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Conrad Graf von Reichenbach-Goschütz
born 13th of Aug. 1897 in Goschütz Castle, Silesia      
Leutnant in the Leib Kürassier Regiment „Großer Kurfürst“ Nr. 1 (Schlesisches)   
2nd Lt in the Life Cuirassier Regiment „Great Elector“ No. 1 (Silesian),      
being killed as a readily trained one-seater fighter pilot in a plane crash at the Jagdstaffelschule 1, Famars, Northern France.

 

Here to be seen (at the right) with his brothers Fabian (middle) who died in Dec. 18 of after-effects of a headshot, and Heinrich (left) who was cut down by British cavalry on 8th Aug. 18 in the Battle of Amiens when he had refused to surrender.

The 4th brother, my grandfather, also served with the Life Cuirassiers as a cadet at the age of 17, in close combat being wounded and taken POW in Northern France. – He later also in WW2 survived action and prisonship in Russia. - Our family was close to going extinct. - Conrad and his Brothers are strongly being remembered by my Family


Heinrich

 

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Kimberley John Lindsay

Dear Heinrich v. R-G,

At least your grandfather survived. What was his name, one wonders? Perhaps you have his military 5ab24d5b24cdb_Unknownofficer.png.b322873307dec5706ba1e0599d35b999.pngportrait, too?

Interestingly, another Great War Forum aficionado recently attached a photograph of an unknown German officer - wondering about his uniform tunic. The collar and cuffs strongly resemble that of the Leibkürassier Nr. 1...

Kindest regards,

Kim.

Kimberley John Lindsay.

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Hi,

interesting photo of your ancestor Conrad Graf von Reichenbach-Goschütz he wears the Kürassier-Uniform but, if I see it correctly, the shoulderboards of the Luftstreitkräfte.

@ Kimberly : The similarity between the uniform of Count von Reichenbach-Goschütz and the one you mentioned in the other thread is based on the fact that both served as Kürassiere (as I wrote in that thread) and hence had similar uniforms. However, the soldier in the other thread is not an officer, as far as I can see.

GreyC

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A tragedy for the family, I gather Heinrich is still among the missing.

 

3 hours ago, Kimberley John Lindsay said:

Dear Heinrich v. R-G,

At least your grandfather survived. What was his name, one wonders? 

 

Christoph - his ICRC records are here https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/142909/1/2/

 

Charlie

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Heinrich von Reichenbach

@charlie2

Many thanks for posting the ICRC link - it was unknown to me, and I am happy indeed to have got this information now.

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My grandfather (on my fathers side) was an NCO in the German Cavalry 1914-18 in Russia, France, my husbands grandfathers and uncles were all Australian Imperial Force 14-18 and 39-45.

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Heinrich von Reichenbach

@charlie2

A tragedy for the Family indeed, hard to imagine how my great-grandparents managed to overcome the loss - they needed all their  Prussian attitude and strength for it.

Yes, my great uncle Heinrich is still among the missed. But the fact and details of his death are known because being witnessed and reported by two of his men:

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Heinrich von Reichenbach

Source: "Helden-Gedenkmappe des deutschen Adels (v. Schoenermark 1921)

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Thank you for posting the extract, am I correct in thinking „Elfern“ refers to Grenadier Regiment Nr 11? It is interesting to note that your Great Grandfather also served during the war as a Major in the Leib-Kürassier Regiment 1.

 

Charlie

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Heinrich, thank you for posting this. Can I ask how old your three great uncles were? They look so young.

 

Pete.

 

Pas oublié/Nicht vergessen/Not forgotten.

 

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Heinrich von Reichenbach

@Fattyowls
the 3 brothers were young: Heinrich was born in Feb. 1895, Fabian in July 1896 and Conrad in Aug. 1897. My grandfather Christoph was born in June 1900.

 

@charlie2

Yes indeed, the "Elfern" was the Grenadier Regiment Nr. 11 which in 1914  belonged to the 11. Kavallerie Brigade as well, as the LeibkürassierNr. 1 did. Later in 1918 the "Elfer" belonged to the 117. Division which had been deployed to the Amiens frontline 2 days before the offensive of the 8th of August started. At that stage, Heinrich was a staff officer of the I. Bt/11.

Yes, as a major of reserve, my great grandfather in 1914 immediately went into war, together with his eldest son Heinrich. - May I ask where you got the Information from that my great grandfather did so?
- Here you see an early photo of him, being in full cuirassier dress.

 

 

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Thank you for posting the photo and for the further information, what a great photo! How lucky you are that the photos survived the later turmoil. I found the reference to your Great Grandfather in this article http://www.gross-wartenberg.de/sukgw/s186.html while search for information on Schloß Goschütz. The Schloß was obviously a magnificent building before the fire. Do think Conrad‘s decision to train as a pilot may have been influenced by your family‘s friendship with the von Richthofen family?

 

Charlie

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Heinrich von Reichenbach

@charlie2

Yes, Goschütz was marvellous indeed. Our family did not manage to save substantial goods from loss and destruction at the end of WW2. From the property and from family members there are only a few photographies left that had early been send to relatives living in Western parts of Germany.

At  that stage Conrad's decision to become a fighter plane pilot was not unusual for young cavalry officers. In 1916 most cavalry units had to "dismount" and to man the trenches. Many cavalry units were amalgamed to the "Kavallerie Schützen Einheiten". Many young officers were fascinated by the idea of air fighting which seemingly was knightly, honourable and, of course, heroic.

What our family know is, that all 3 brothers felt being "underutilized" when they were serving with the Leibkürassiere in Galicia and Hungary. Therefore Heinrich applied for service with the GrenR 11, in order to do fighting at the hot spots, and both his brothers applied for one-seater pilot training where Conrad had been admitted for, but Fabian not, due to an injury. Thus Fabian continued service with the Leibkürassiere.

I cannot confirm closer relationships or even friendship between the Reichenbach and the Richthofen families. Of course they knew each other; my great-grandfather and Manfred v. Richthofen's father both had served with the Leibkürassiere, and both were majors of reserve of the regiment. But I am not sure wether both families were sufficiently matching for keeping a closer friendship running. But shortly before Conrad had his lethal plane crash, he had bravorously passed his pilot exam, and decision had been made to command him under Richthofen's wings in the Flying Circus. But it is quite conceivable that my great grandfather might have exerted some influence upon father and son von Richthofen, in order to move things in that sense.

 

Heinrich

 

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Heinrich,

Many thanks for your informative and very interesting reply. Perhaps aquaintance would have been a better choice of words on my part rather than friendship. Your Great Uncles were obviously very brave men, I expect many would have chosen a different path.

 

Charlie

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Hallotron

Amazing history! I've been to Goschütz (Goszcz) several times and even now the castle is breathtaking.

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