Roberto1916 Posted 20 March , 2018 Share Posted 20 March , 2018 Hello I'm trying to find the citations to these medal recipients: DCM Recipient Company Sergeant Major J. Bartlett Service No.G/3841 Unit 17th Battalion Royal Sussex Regiment, DCM Recipient Sergeant W. E. Packard Service No.104908 Unit Machine Gun Corps (Infantry), MM Recipient Sergeant A. G. Young Service No.10105 Unit 4th Dragoon Guards (Royal Irish), MM Recipient Sergeant H. E. Long Service No.11159 Unit 121st Heavy Battery Royal Garrison Artillery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Black Posted 20 March , 2018 Share Posted 20 March , 2018 Roberto, You should find the DCM citations in the London Gazette. Here's Bartlett's. The M.M. citations don't exist, only their date of gazetting is in the L.G. The best ways to find the reasons they were awarded is in the local newspaper to the recipient, war diaries or btn/regimental histories. Cheers, Derek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 20 March , 2018 Share Posted 20 March , 2018 (edited) There is a huge post on the British medal forum with hundreds if not thousands of mm details from various sources. The 4th dragoon guards medal is rare , do you have it ? Edited 20 March , 2018 by Coldstreamer typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrook Posted 20 March , 2018 Share Posted 20 March , 2018 (edited) Walter Packard was awarded the D.C.M. whilst serving with 1st Bn. East Surrey Regt. before he was transferred to the M.G.C. In the Gazette his name is spelt 'Packhard', his medal index card states 'Packard' https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29212/supplement/6395 Edit to add: C.S.M. Bartlett's D.C.M. was awarded for his conduct at Bois-en-Hache on 12 April 1917. Bois-en-Hache is near Vimy. Edited 20 March , 2018 by HarryBrook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrook Posted 20 March , 2018 Share Posted 20 March , 2018 The M.M. award to Sgt. A. G. Young was published in the London Gazette on 11 November 1916 https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29819/supplement/10933 and to then Gnr. H. E. Long on 9 July 1917 https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30172/supplement/6832 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 20 March , 2018 Share Posted 20 March , 2018 the link for the BMF is here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberto1916 Posted 5 April , 2018 Author Share Posted 5 April , 2018 Thanks Guys Really Appreciate That Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 5 November , 2018 Share Posted 5 November , 2018 Hello Roberto 1916. Just to let you know that, I had just gone onto, Google and typed in my Grandfather's details and saw your request. Very suprised. Now, I'm a new member of the, Great war Forum. All the previous info is correct, by others. Just to let you know that I am the Grandson of, H.E.Long. MM. 11159. 121 Heavy Battery Royal Garrison Artillery. Question. What is the reason for your reserch? I would like to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberto1916 Posted 7 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 7 November , 2018 Ah what a coincidence well I was photographing some war graves at a local cemetery and I came across his grave and the fact he had MM engraved on his grave intrigued me so I wanted to know what this meant eventual I found out it was a medal and then I requested for his citiation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicpt77 Posted 16 February , 2019 Share Posted 16 February , 2019 Hello Do you have the Young 4Dgs MM? Nic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 17 February , 2019 Share Posted 17 February , 2019 Already asked for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicpt77 Posted 24 May , 2020 Share Posted 24 May , 2020 Sjt AG Young. No MM on his grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicpt77 Posted 25 July , 2021 Share Posted 25 July , 2021 Does anyone know the Citation? He was the Regt. Cook Sjt in 1914. He progressed up the Administrative side. finished as WO2. In Russia. I have a photo of the Cooks taken in 1912. SWB for kidney stones which caused his posting from Italy to France then the UK in 1918. 3846 Sq.Qm.Sjt Horace Allaby 4th Dragoon Guards. Inscribed on the MM. Thanks Nic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 25 July , 2021 Share Posted 25 July , 2021 (edited) H. F. Allaby's MM is listed on the first page of the London Gazette of 11 Oct. 1916: https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29780/supplement/9827 Service no. 3486. MM for France - Schedule no. 33231 - MM Index Card image TNA Ref. WO-372-23-72446 The citations were destroyed. The war diary or a newspaper report may mention his award. It may have been a July 1916 (Somme) award? That gazette also included some retrospective awards for early 1916 or even 1915. WD: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14016511 OR https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14016510 Edited 25 July , 2021 by Ivor Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicpt77 Posted 25 July , 2021 Share Posted 25 July , 2021 Thanks Ivor Yes maybe there’s a newspaper article out there, also the Regt. Diary might throw up something. Take care Nic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collectorsguide Posted 26 July , 2021 Share Posted 26 July , 2021 This is one of 12 MMs awarded on the 11.10.16. Schedule to the 4/DGs. They are followed by awards to the 9th Lancers (14) and the 18th HRS (15) These are retrospective awards for Ypres in 1915(April?) (slight possibility for Nov 1914) I think they would carry citations for general awards for good work 1914/15 and early 1916. You need to look in the records of the units of the 2nd Bde 2nd Cav Div when operating/co-operating in heavy actions. best w, HOWARD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 26 July , 2021 Share Posted 26 July , 2021 (edited) Thanks Howard. Your gazette summary lists are invaluable. There are a large number of awards to various Dragoon Guard units in that LG. The retrospective awards are a real needle in a haystack search, given that there may not be any named WD mention. I suppose the Division's A&QMG diaries may have a list. I've found divisional WD lists of retrospective awards at the end of October 1916 for that gazette, which does not add much information other than confirm that they were retrospective. EDIT: Found them mentioned in the 4th DG war diary- presentations 10 December 1916 - WD page attached below (TNA). Best wishes with your ongoing publication schedule. Hopefully there is something imminent? Ivor Edited 26 July , 2021 by Ivor Anderson Additional information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collectorsguide Posted 26 July , 2021 Share Posted 26 July , 2021 Well done Ivor, Missing from the War Diary list are : CPL L S BULL MGCoy late 4/DG /R E WORRALL/W. LOCKE/;JONES AND YOUNG not on this Schedule. best w, Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicpt77 Posted 26 July , 2021 Share Posted 26 July , 2021 (edited) Thanks to all, I also have Sjt Stevens MM. Nic Edited 26 July , 2021 by Nicpt77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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