Gregory Counsell Posted 10 March , 2018 Share Posted 10 March , 2018 Lost information. about the 70th {LXX) Royal Field Artillery it seems that this Brigade was attached to the 15th Scottish and served in France... But 1917 onwards it seems to vanish.. were they attached to a different division or reformed and was there some other information as to what happened to them War Diaries for the 70th seems to suddenly stop in mid 1917 for three/four Months. ? and then is vague...? Would appreciate any input to clear up the mystery... Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 10 March , 2018 Share Posted 10 March , 2018 (edited) See http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/the-royal-artillery-in-the-first-world-war/batteries-and-brigades-of-the-royal-field-artillery/lxx-lxxi-lxxii-and-lxiii-howitzer-brigades-of-the-royal-field-artillery-15th-divisional-artillery/ Not sure what you mean about the war diary being vague. It's as good as most other field artillery diaries. The months July to September 1917 are simply missing. Edited 10 March , 2018 by Chris_Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Counsell Posted 10 March , 2018 Author Share Posted 10 March , 2018 Thanks Chris Not wishing to seem vague I was trying to discover what might be the reasons for missing period in war diaries... if not available to view... then asking if anyone knew the movement's of the 70th RFA.....during the period between juke 1917 to Nov 1917. The Long Long Trail indicates that the 70th remained with the 15th throughout the War....did it become part of another Brigade or a Brigade in its own right....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 10 March , 2018 Share Posted 10 March , 2018 Greg The WD of the Commander RA 15 Div from July 1917 mentions 70 Brigade so it was under the orders of that Div. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acknown Posted 11 June , 2018 Share Posted 11 June , 2018 If anyone has the 70 Bde RFA WD, could you see if the award of a MM to 128274 Dvr Arthur Samuel Jerrard gets a mention (awarded 11 Apr 18)? What was A Bty up to that month? Many thanks. Acknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted 11 October , 2018 Share Posted 11 October , 2018 My relative, Sjt Joseph Hawkins 22718 C Bty 70 Bde RFA was gazetted the MM on 2nd Nov 1917. Anyone have any idea on how I can find out what act of bravery he did to earn the medal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Porter Posted 11 October , 2018 Share Posted 11 October , 2018 Welcome to the Forum Trev, It appears from his service record (on Ancestry and Findmypast) that the act of bravery occurred in September 1917. Unfortunately, the War Diaries for July, August and September 1917 all seem to be missing from the National Archives. You could try local newspapers to see if there is a write up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 11 October , 2018 Share Posted 11 October , 2018 Hi Trev, Unlike some other medal awards (such as VCs, DSOs, MCs, DCMs) there is no known surviving central source for MM citations. There is some general advice on trying to research them here. Good luck. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted 11 October , 2018 Share Posted 11 October , 2018 Thanks for the replies, I’ll keep looking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted 11 October , 2018 Share Posted 11 October , 2018 Found this on ancestry. Does anyone know if the first date is the date the medal was earned or signed for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 12 October , 2018 Share Posted 12 October , 2018 Neither I'm afraid. It is the date of the relevant Army Order "A.O. 267 - IV - Presentation of Medals awarded for Gallant Conduct or Meritorious Service. " and thus is not specific to your case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 12 October , 2018 Share Posted 12 October , 2018 (edited) edited Edited 12 October , 2018 by charlie962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 28 April , 2022 Share Posted 28 April , 2022 (edited) On 11/10/2018 at 20:30, Trev said: My relative, Sjt Joseph Hawkins 22718 C Bty 70 Bde RFA was gazetted the MM on 2nd Nov 1917. Anyone have any idea on how I can find out what act of bravery he did to earn the medal The 2 Nov 1917 LG was apparently for August 1917 and the start of 3rd Ypres, a period missing from the war diary. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7352767 There may be a list of 15th Division awards in the 15th A&QMG war diary? https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/browse/r/h/C4555069 EDIT - here is Hawkins among 15th Division awards on 9th September 1917 - probably for Ypres sector in August 1917: Edited 29 April , 2022 by Ivor Anderson Additional Info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 28 April , 2022 Share Posted 28 April , 2022 (edited) On 11/06/2018 at 19:54, Acknown said: award of a MM to 128274 Dvr Arthur Samuel Jerrard gets a mention (awarded 11 Apr 18)? MM actually in LG 12 June 1918 as Gerrard: https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30743/supplement/7008 Awards for the German Spring Offensive, March/April 1918. Edited 29 April , 2022 by Ivor Anderson Additional Info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acknown Posted 28 April , 2022 Share Posted 28 April , 2022 Ivor - Many thanks. I'm still researching this matter four years on, so your information is most welcome. Acknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 28 April , 2022 Share Posted 28 April , 2022 (edited) He may be on an awards list here: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14053583 EDIT - no lists there - Might be listed among XVII Corps awards: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/12c2ca7b32fb45d4ac39aee1b353590c Edited 28 April , 2022 by Ivor Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 28 April , 2022 Share Posted 28 April , 2022 (edited) He is listed with a service no. error among XVII Corps routine orders by Lt. Gen Sir Charles Fergusson on 10th April 1918: Edited 28 April , 2022 by Ivor Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acknown Posted 28 April , 2022 Share Posted 28 April , 2022 Again, many thanks, name spelled incorrectly as well. Very useful. Acknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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