michaeldr Posted 8 March , 2018 Share Posted 8 March , 2018 from Dekenai's post No. 66 here Gammage"At Hassana in Sinai, men were sent out to round up Bedouins who had fired on Camel Corps Patrols"' Frank Reid pte ICC"but when they approached...a bedouin fired at close range, and LCpl MacGregor fell badly wounded.. This incident deserves to be better known for the manner of the wounded man's evacuation; this was the first recorded example of a British battlefield evacuation by air A fascinating article by the former IDF Surgeon General, Professor Eran Dolev can be seen here http://jramc.bmj.com/content/jramc/132/1/34.full.pdf regards Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alantwo Posted 8 March , 2018 Share Posted 8 March , 2018 Hi Michael Thanks for posting, interesting article. Regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 8 March , 2018 Author Share Posted 8 March , 2018 You're welcome Alan, In other threads here MacGregor Walter WA. 3919, 7th Co, Ex Scottish Horse (3919) and Royal Highlanders (316093) shot by Arabs at Hassana WIA 18-1-17 edit to add: Walter W A MacGregor's MiC [WO/372/13; image ref.629] shows that he was entitled to the Victory & BWM and that he was also awarded the SWB, list ref: G/A/537 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 8 March , 2018 Share Posted 8 March , 2018 Mates, Since that date I have gone over many of these men, the lastest details on Mac Gregor is; MacGregor Walter WA. 3919 Pte Tos 7Co 7-16 WIA 18-2-17 R/ankle shot reported shot by arabs during operation by 2Bn under Maj Bassett at Hassana Post Ex Scottish Horse (3919) and Royal Highlanders (316093) I record; 16-2-17 Hassana operation by Maj Bassett's 2Bn ICC (5Co 6Co 7Co) + sect 14Co + sect HK&SMB + Scottish FAmb & 2/1 Field Troop RE att Maj Greenwood & Lt Herbert (DMC Intell) to Hassana *captured 3 officers & 20 men rtn 21-2-17 A number of reports give the details of the action at Hassana, a small outpost. S.B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 9 March , 2018 Author Share Posted 9 March , 2018 Further information on the wounded man kindly supplied by Mark [see post No. 2 here Enlisted 29/8/1914. Discharged 16/11/1918. Silver War Badge B44031. Discharged para 392 xvi(B1). W (for Wounds). There is a Walter WA MacGregor in the 1901 Scottish census. 6. Born and living in Little Dunkeld, Perthshire. A Walter WA MacGregor married Lily Flock in 2Q in 1918 in Bristol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 10 March , 2018 Author Share Posted 10 March , 2018 (edited) This AirMed & Rescue magazine page has a photograph of the incident showing L/Cpl MacGregor on a stretcher being loaded into the BE2c see https://www.airmedandrescue.com/story/1862 Or does it? Any comments on the photograph anyone? I leave it to others to say if they aeroplane is of the correct BE2c design, but I wonder, would Major Bassett's ICC column have carried with them to Bir el Hassana the wheeled device (I presume this is for carrying the stretcher) which is seen in the right fore ground? It would have been more reassuring if the photograph had been given a proper attribution to some collection: “RAF / © MOD Crown Copyright 2017” tells us nothing edit: quote - Lance Corporal MacGregor being strapped into the bi-plane - is not more likely to be showing MacGregor's exit from the plane? Note also the third person from the left and their flapping white gown, which suggests to me that this is the arrival at the medical facility rather than the beginning of an evacuation from the middle of the desert See Stuart's post No.9 below Edited 31 May , 2018 by michaeldr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 10 March , 2018 Share Posted 10 March , 2018 Mate, Records show that the 1/1 Scottish Horse FAmb had taken over from the Cheshires Field Amb on the force list. That means the A sect would have had carqouts but carrying one man on these things was not the best way to travel, without some one on the other side to balence the camel. I would say by the photo that this maybe the unloading of the L/Cpl at the hosp, not the loading in the field? Cheers S.B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaureenE Posted 11 March , 2018 Share Posted 11 March , 2018 (edited) The article mentioned by Michael in post 1, refers to a photograph of the plane which may be seen page 130, With the R.A.M.C. in Egypt by Serjeant-Major, R.A.M.C https://archive.org/stream/withramcinegypt00serjuoft#page/130/mode/2up This probably indicates that at least one person was taking photographs at the hospital end. I would agree that the photograph discussed above from the AirMed & Rescue magazine is much more likely to have been taken at the hospital end. This book With the R.A.M.C. in Egypt also has photographs of cacolets etc Cheers Maureen Edited 11 March , 2018 by Maureene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart24 Posted 30 May , 2018 Share Posted 30 May , 2018 Hi all, Sorry, bit late coming to this thread, but the photo shown in the Air Med & Rescue article is not L/Cpl MacGregor being evacuated. He was flown out in the observer's seat of a BE2. That photo is of a DH9 that was specially modified for casualty evacuation in 1920 in Somaliland, part of 'Z Force'. A hinged compartment was added to the rear fuselage to lay patients in. All the best Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 31 May , 2018 Author Share Posted 31 May , 2018 So, it's not even MacGregor's exit from the plane [wrong plane, wrong war & wrong casualty] Many thanks for clearing that up Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullerTurner Posted 12 June , 2018 Share Posted 12 June , 2018 To the uninitiated, a DH4 and a BE2c look very similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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