Krithia Posted 4 January , 2005 Share Posted 4 January , 2005 Is there a list of troopship names that served at Gallipoli? I have some photographs that show ships with large letter/numbers painted on the side, in particular B12, N10 and N6. I have seen the list on the Gallipoli Association website and also the list under http://www.unsw.adfa.edu.au/%7Ermallett/Transports.html that shows HMAT 'A' reference numbers. Does another list survive? Can any Pal help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 5 January , 2005 Share Posted 5 January , 2005 Steve, N10 is the ‘Royal George’ and appears on IWM photograph Q61123, see page 88 of ‘RND’ Issue No.2 Sept 1997 Sorry can’t help with B12 & N6 Rob Walker’s book ‘To What End Did They Die’ offers a list which he says "cannot be described as complete.” He names there some 120+ ships; and that’s excluding the French, the sea-plane carriers etc., but unfortunately he does not give their id letter/nos. Regards Michael D.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 7 January , 2005 Share Posted 7 January , 2005 Steve, I have sent a PM. Kath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 7 January , 2005 Share Posted 7 January , 2005 Michael, Is this N10, the RMS Royal George as a troopship? Kath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Roberts Posted 8 January , 2005 Share Posted 8 January , 2005 Rupert Brookes' biography in his "Collected Poems" says that he and Hood Battallion RND sailed in "Grantully Castle". He died on the French hospital ship "Duguay-Trouin" Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 8 January , 2005 Share Posted 8 January , 2005 Is this N10, the RMS Royal George as a troopship? Kath, Yes N10 was the ‘Royal George’ The IWM picture below [ref Q 6112] shows the SS Royal George at Mudros on 24 March 1915. The ship’s number is seen on the side of the forward superstructure If I have understood Steve correctly, then his object here is to tie up the number of each ship with its name. As pointed out by Steve, lists of names exist in various places, however the lists seen up to now do not give the numbers. Alas, when dealing with old photographs, the numbers are sometimes the only form of recognition possible. Adrian is correct that the ‘Grantully Castle’ carried the Hood Battalion. Also on board were the 2nd Brigade [RND] HQ and the Anson Battalion Other ships carrying the RND from Avonmouth on 27th & 28th Feb 1915 were ‘Franconia’ – Div HQ., 1st Brigade HQ, Ordnance Detail, Drake Batt., Nelson Batt. ‘Royal George’ – Howe Batt., 1st Field Ambulance ‘Gloucester Castle’ – Portsmouth Batt. ‘Ayrshire’- Div Signals Co., Grooms ‘Alnwich Castle’ – Deal Batt., 2nd & 3rd Field Ambulances, RMA. ‘Somali’- Cyclist Company, Engineer Unit ‘Cestrian’ – Divisional Train Above details from ADM137/3088A [papers marked Schedule B] as published by Len Sellers in ‘RND’ where Len also gives details from WO95/4290 which lists Allotment of Troops to Transports which shows sailing on 6th Feb 1915 ‘Braemar Castle’ - HQ 3rd Brigade, No.4 Sec Signal Co., Plymouth Batt ‘Cawdor Castle’ – Chatham Batt. If anyone can add the Numbers for these ships [as in N10 = Royal George] then it would help and a full list for all the Gallipoli transports would be ideal Regards Michael D.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 8 January , 2005 Share Posted 8 January , 2005 This is probably a red herring (or 2) and nothing to do with WW!. I've two postcards of the Soudan which was a hospital ship at Gallipoli. The one titled "HMTS Soudan" has No.5 on the side of the ship BUT it was written 16th-20th. Dec.1906 The other, just "SS SOUDAN", has No.7 & refers to arrival home from South Africa. The 7 looks as if it has been painted over another no. Kath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Roberts Posted 10 January , 2005 Share Posted 10 January , 2005 Some more names: 3 Wing RNAS sailed to Gallopolli on the Harrison Liner 'Imkosi'; their aircraft and equipment on the 'Moorgate'. [source: 'Sailor in the Sky', autobiog of Vice-Admiral Richard Bell-Davies VC] Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krithia Posted 16 January , 2005 Author Share Posted 16 January , 2005 Thanks all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_davies Posted 17 January , 2005 Share Posted 17 January , 2005 The 6th Lincs, sailed from England onboard the Empress of Britain to Mudros, and from there on the transports Osmanieh and Elkatura to Cape Helles. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 4 February , 2005 Share Posted 4 February , 2005 Here's HMT Plassy - No. 3 And it is No NOT just N, as in N10. Wonder if this is peacetime practice. Kath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 28 March , 2005 Share Posted 28 March , 2005 A footnote on page 118 of the British O.H. gives some useful information regarding the allocation of the numbers used, but unfortunately it does not tie in names with those numbers. “The Anzac transports were numbered A1 to A35, the 29th Division’s B1 to B15, the French F1 to F23 and the [Royal] Naval Division’s N1 to N12. Similarly the supply ships were numbered S1 to S10 and the ship to convey Sir Ian Hamilton and his headquarters was numbered H1.” Regards Michael D.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWills Posted 3 April , 2005 Share Posted 3 April , 2005 The Australian Embarkation Rolls, available on the AWM site (large pdf files) detail the ships upon which soldiers embarked. A sample check shows that 11th Infantry Battalion 8th reinforcements embarked at Fremantle 2nd September 1915 on HMAT A68 "Anchises"; the 9th reinforcements on HMAT A20 "Hororata" on 5th October 1915 (again from Fremantle) etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWills Posted 4 April , 2005 Share Posted 4 April , 2005 More ships from 17th & 18th AIF embarkation rolls: A32 is Themosticles A23 is Suffolk A54 is Runic A8 is Argyllshire A14 is Euripides A29 is Suevic A60 is Aeneas (a Trojan link here??) A15 is Star of England A71 is Nestor A40 is Ceramic A55 is Kyarra A18 is Wiltshire A72 is Beltana A38 is Ulysses Perhaps we can get a list together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frev Posted 5 April , 2005 Share Posted 5 April , 2005 SS Novian carried the original 5th Bn AIF from Egypt to Gallipoli (via Lemnos) in April 1915 SS Galeka carried the 6th & some 7th Bn troops Maihalia also carried some 7th Bn troops A46 Clan McGillivray carried some 7th Bn & the 8th Bn AIF Menominee carried the 8th LH to Gallipoli in May 1915 - arriving off Anzac Cove they were then transferred to the Foxhound The B11 Southland was carrying amongst others, the 21st Bn & B Coy of the 23rd Bn AIF to Gallipoli - when it was torpedoed 2/9/15. The Haverford was carrying the rest of the 23rd Bn. The hospital ship Neuralia was in the vicinity & helped in the rescue. The Osmanieh was being used as a hospital ship in April 1915 The Devanha in August 1915 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWills Posted 5 April , 2005 Share Posted 5 April , 2005 From the 15th Bttn Embarkation Roll (some, of course, post Gallipoli) A40 is Ceramic A35 is Berrima A48 is Seang Bee A46 is Clan Macgillivray A49 is Seang Choon A17 is Port Linciln A55 is Kyarra A20 is Hororata A63 is Karoola A31 is Ajana A9 is Shropshire A67 is Orsova A33 is Ayrshire A69 is Warilda HMAT RMS Orontes appears not to have an ID code A64 is Demosthenes A62 is Wandilla A73 is Commonwealth A16 is Star of Victoria HMAT SS Hawkes Bay has no code A50 is Itonus A36 is Boonah Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frev Posted 6 April , 2005 Share Posted 6 April , 2005 Martin If you check out Ross Mallet's webpage in Krithia's original post you'll find out why the RMS Orontes & the SS Hawkes Bay have no codes. Cheers, Frev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted 6 April , 2005 Share Posted 6 April , 2005 DISPOSITION OF UNITS OF THE 1ST DIVISION (AUSTRALIAN) IN THE CONVOY AND PLACES OF EMBARKATION. No. Name. Tonnage Speed Embarked at- Troops Officers Men Horses A1 Hymettus 4,606 11.5 Sydney, Melbourne, and Adelaide ASC and horses 5 106 686 A2 Geelong ... 7,951 12 Melbourne and Hobart Mixed 47 1,295 - A3 Orvieto ... ...12,130 15 Melbourne GOC, Infantry & details 94 1,345 21 A4 Pera ... ... 7,635 11 Sydney Artillery horses 5 90 391 A5 Omrah ... ... 8,130 15 Brisbane Infantry and ASC 43 1,104 15 A6 Clan MacCorquodale 5,058 12.5 Sydney Horses 6 113 524 A7 Medic ... 12,032 13 Adelaide and Fremantle Two companies Infantry, 28 977 270 Artillery, ASC, & AMC A8 Argyllshire ... 10,392 14 Sydney Artillery 32 800 373 A9 Shropshire ... 11,911 14 Melbourne Artillery 42 794 433 A10 Karoo ... 6,127 12 Sydney and Melbourne Signallers and A.M.C 13 388 398 A11 Ascanius ... 10,048 13 Adelaide & Fremantle Infantry 65 1,728 10 A12 Saldanha ... 4,594 11 Adelaide Horses 4 52 274 A13 Katuna ... ... 4,641 11 Sydney and Hobart Horses 5 94 506 A14 Euripides ... 14,947 15 Sydney Infantry 29 2,202 15 A15 Star of England 9,150 13.5 Brisbane Light Horse 25 487 457 A16 Star of Victoria... 9,152 13.5 Sydney Light Horse 26 487 461 A17 Port Lincoln ... 7,243 12 Adelaide Light Horse 19 35I 338 A18 Wiltshire ... 10,390 14 Melbourne Light Horse and A.M.C. 35 724 497 A19 Afric ... 11,999 13 Sydney Infantry, A.S.C., and Engrs 48 1,372 8 A20 Hororata ... 9,491 14 Melbourne Infantry 66 1,986 118 A21 Marere ... 6,443 12.5 Melbourne Horses 4 80 443 A22 Rangatira ... 10,118 14 Brisbane Arty, Infantry, & AMC 15 430 450 A23 Suffolk ... 7,573 12 Sydney Infantry 32 979 8 A24 Benalla ... 11,118 14 Melbourne Infantry and A.S.C. 49 1,185 10 A25 Anglo-Egyptian 7,379 12 Brisbane and Melbourne Horses 6 105 492 A26 Armadale ... 6,153 11 Melbourne Lines of communication - - - A27 Southern ... 4,769 10.5 Sydney and Melbourne Horses 5 136 281 A28 Miltiades ... 7,814 13 Sydney and Melbourne Imperial Reservists - 600 - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted 6 April , 2005 Share Posted 6 April , 2005 No. Name. Tonnage. Speed. Officer Commanding Troops. lst Division. A3 Orvieto ... 12,130 15 Lieut.-Colonel D. S. Wanliss (Flagship of G.O.C.) A27 Southern ... 4,769 10.5 Lieut-Colonel R. T. Sutherland A4 Pera 7,635 11 Lieutenant E. W. Richards A26 Armadale 6,153 11 Major P. W. Smith A12 Saldanha ... 4,594 11 Lieutenant P. A. McE. Laurie A13 Katuna ... 4,641 11 Major S. Hawley A1 Hymettus ... 4,6o6 11.5 Major A. A. Holdsworth A23 Suffolk ... 7,573 12 Lieut.-Colonel C. F. Braund A25 Anglo-Egyptian 7,379 12 Lieutenant W. Standfield 2nd Division. A18 Wiltshire ... 10,390 14 Lieut.-Colonel L. Long (Divisional leader) A7 Medic ... 12,032 13 Major A. J. Bessell-Browne A11 Ascanius ... 10,048 13 Lieut.-Colonel S. P. Weir A15 Star of England 9,150 13.5 Lieut.-Colonel R. M. Stoddart A2 Geelong 7,951 12 Lieut.-Colonel L. F. Clarke A17 Port Lincoln 7,243 12 Lieut.-Colonel F. N. Rowell A10 Karoo ... 6,127 12 Captain H. L. Mackworth A21 Marere ... 6.443 12.5 Captain C. H. Spurge A6 Clan MacCorquodale 5,058 12.5 Major A. J. Bennett 3rd Division. A14 Euripides ... 14,947 15 Colonel H. N. MacLaurin (Divisional leader) A8 Argyllshire 10,392 14 Major S. E. Christian A9 Shropshire ... 11,911 14 Colonel J. J. T. Hobbs A19 Afric ... 11,999 13 Lieut.-Colonel L. Dobbin A24 Benalla ... 11,118 14 Lieut.-Colonel W. K. Bolton A22 Rangatira ... 10,118 14 Lieut.-Colonel C. Rosenthal A16 Star of Victoria 9,152 13.5 Lieut.-Colonel J. B. Meredith A20 Hororata ... 9,491 14 Lieut.-Colonel J. M. Semmens A5 Omrah ... 8,130 15 Lieut.-Colonel H. W. Lee A28 Miltiades ... 7,814 13 Major C. T. Griffiths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted 6 April , 2005 Share Posted 6 April , 2005 NEW ZEALAND TRANSPORTS. No. Name. Tonnage. Speed. lst Division. 3 Maunganui ... 7,527 16 9 Hawkes Bay ... 7,207 13 8 Star of India ... 6,800 11 7 Limerick ... 6,827 13 4 Tahiti … 7,585 17 No. Name. Tonnage. Speed. 2nd Division. 10 Arawa ... 9,372 12 11 Athenic ... 12,234 12 6 Orari … 6,800 12 5 Ruapehu ... 7,885 13 12 Waimana ... 10,389 14 New Zealand Transports of the Main Body. Tons Knots Port of Departure Units on Board Nos. Carried N.Z.T. No. 3 Maunganui 7,527 16 Wellington Headquarters Staff. N.Z E.F. 38 Officers Headquarters, N.Z. Infantry Brigade 528 Men Field Troop, N.Z. E. 204 Horses Wellington Infantry Battalion (West Coast Coy.) N.Z. Mounted Field Ambulance N.Z.T. No. 4 Tahiti 7,585 17 Lyttelton Canterbury Mounted Rifles Regt. 30 Officers Wellington Mounted Rifles Regt. (1 Squadron) 61l Men Canterbury Infantry Battalion (1 Company) 282 Horses N.Z.T No. 5 Ruapehu 7,885 13 Port Chalmers Otago Mounted Rifles Regt. (1 Squadron) 31 Officers Otago Infantry Battalion (less 2 Companies 785 Men & Machine Gun Section) 214 Horses N.Z.T. No. 6 Orari 6,800 12 Wellington Wellington Mounted Rifles Regt. 16 Officers (East Coast Squadron and 2 Troops) 269 Men Surplus horses from other transports 728 Horses N.Z.T. No. 7 Limerick 7,207 13 Wellington N.Z. Field Artillery Brigade (in part) 21 Officers Wellington Infantry Battalion (No. 7 & 8 Platoons) 495 Men 348 Horses N.Z.T. No. 8 Star of India 6,800 11 Auckland Auckland Mounted Rifles Regt. 30 Officers New Zealand Field Ambulance 652 Men 395 Horses N.Z.T. No. 9 Hawkes Bay 7,207 13 Port Chalmers Otago Mounted Rifles Regt. (less 1 Squadron) 40 Officers Otago Infantry Battalion (2 Companies & Machine 930 Men Gun Section) 569 Horses N.Z.T. No. 10 Arawa 9,372 12 Wellington Wellington Infantry Battalion (less West Coast Coy. 59 Officers 7 and 8 Platoons) 1,259 Men Wellington Mounted Rifles Regt. (less 2 troops) 215 Horses Field Artillery Brigade (in part) Signal Troop, N.Z. E. N.Z.T No. 11 Athenic 12,234 12 Lyttleton Headquarters, Mounted Rifles Brigade 54 Officers. Canterbury Mounted Rifles Regt. (2 Squadrons) 1,259 Men Canterbury Infantry Battalion (less 1 Coy) 339 Horses N.Z.T. No. 12 Waimana 10,389 14 Auckland Auckland Mounted Rifles Regiment 61 Officers Auckland Infantry Battalion 1,400 Men NZ Signal Company 496 Horses NZ Divisional Train In addition to the units mentioned each transport carried the usual details - Naval Transport Officer, Medical Officers, Chaplains, etc. N.Z.T. No. 1 (S.S. Moeraki) and N.Z.T No. 2 (S.S. Monowai) took the Samoan Force, in August, 1914. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted 6 April , 2005 Share Posted 6 April , 2005 Transports Carrying the New Zealand and Australian Division from Alexandria, April 1915. Name of Transport. O.C. Troops Adjutant Units on Board ACHAIA Major H. Hart Wellington Battalion Lieut. A. J. Cross Wellington Battalion Wellington Infantry Battalion (2 Companies). ITONUS Lt-Col. W. G. Malone Wellington Battalion Capt. M. McDonnell Wellington Battalion Wellington Infantry Battalion (less 2 Companies) Canterbury Infantry Battalion (2 Companies) KATUNA Major F. Simon RNZA Capt. Clyde McGilp 1st Battery N.Z.F.A. Headquarters, Field Artillery Brigade LUTZOW Lt.-Col. A. Plugge Auckland Battalion Capt. A. G. B. Price Auckland Battalion Divisional Headquarters Auckland Infantry Battalion Divisional Signal Company (HQ No. 1 Section) Canterbury Battalion (less 2 Companies) GOSLAR Major F. Fergusson Royal Engineers Capt. F. Waite NZE Headquarters Divisional Engineers, N. Z. Engineers No. 1 Field Company, New Zealand Engineers Headquarters New Zealand Infantry Brigade No. 1 Field Ambulance New Zealand Medical Corps HQ No. 2 Coy Divisional Train & Details, NZASC ANNABERG Lt-Col. A. Moore Otago Battalion Lieut. J.S. Reid Otago Battalion Otago Infantry Battalion HAIDAR PASHA Lt.-Col. Pope 16th Battalion Capt. R.T. McDonald 16th Battalion 16th Battalion Australian Infantry (HQ &d 3 Coys) SEEANGBEE Major H. B. Carter 15th Battalion Capt. C. P. Corser 15th Battalion 13th Battalion Australian Infantry (1 Company) 15th Battalion Australian Infantry (2 Companies) 16th Battalion Australian Infantry (1 Company) AUSTRALND Lt.-Col Cannan 15th Battalion Capt. W. C. Willis 15th Battalion 4th New Zealand Howitzer Battery & Ammunition Column 15th Battalion Australian Infantry (less 2 Companies) SEEANGCHUN Lt-Col. R.E. Courtney 14th Battalion Capt. C.M.H. Dare 14th Battalion Headquarters 4th Australian Infantry Brigade 14th Battalion Australian Infantry CALIFORNIAN Major I. T. Standish R.N.Z.A. Lieut. C. Carrington N.Z.F.A. 3rd Battery New Zealand Field Artillery Ammunition Column, New Zealand Field Artillery Brigade 4th Australian Field Ambulance ASCOT Lt-Col. G. J. Burnage 13th Battalion Capt. J.H.A. Durrant 13th Battalion 13th Battalion Australian Infantry (HQ & 3 Companies) 4th Australian Coy Divisional Train (HQ & Supply Section) SURADA Major F. B. Sykes Royal Artillery Lieut. V. Rogers R.N.Z.A. 2nd Battery New Zealand Field Artillery No. 2 Brigade Ammunition Column Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 23 April , 2005 Share Posted 23 April , 2005 Quote from my previous post “Jan 5 2005, 06:48 AM Post #2 Steve, N10 is the ‘Royal George’ and appears on IWM photograph Q61123, see page 88 of ‘RND’ Issue No.2 Sept 1997 Sorry can’t help with B12 & N6” Steve, Can now answer re ‘N6’ This was HMT Braemar Castle See photograph in Len Sellers magazine ‘RND’ Issue No.19, Dec 2001, page 1885 Regards Michael D.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 24 April , 2005 Share Posted 24 April , 2005 B7 = HMT Alaunia See pictures facing pages 17 and 41 of ‘With the Twenty-ninth Division in Gallipoli’ by Rev O. Creighton. As was common practice at the time Creighton only gives the initial letter of the vessel’s name however his text refers to the ship taking the RFs, the LFs and 1 company of the Munsters Ref to Westlake gives the Alaunia as taking the 2nd Royal Fusiliers, the 1st Lancashire Fusiliers and ‘D’ Company of the 1st Royal Munster Fusiliers Regards Michael D.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 1 June , 2005 Share Posted 1 June , 2005 See ebay item #6183015029 - 1911 USED CARD OF TROOPSHIP No. 2 DONGO..... Dongola? And: http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/PO_Liners2.html#anchor781189 Kath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frev Posted 4 August , 2005 Share Posted 4 August , 2005 Menominee carried the 8th LH to Gallipoli in May 1915 - arriving off Anzac Cove they were then transferred to the Foxhound The transport Menominee had the no. X2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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