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Hi, trying to understand something on a statement of service. This chap was wounded whilst with DCLI in France. Following a stay in hospital back in England he was then transferred to RAMC.

The but I need help with reads:

?84 Corps RAMC Woolwich

Granted 5th rate Corps pay 4d 16.2.18

PII0, No. 57 d 26.2.18

Then it’s stamped MAJOR For ?CO RAMC

Any ideas please?

 

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr
13 minutes ago, CBB said:

Hi, trying to understand something on a statement of service. This chap was wounded whilst with DCLI in France. Following a stay in hospital back in England he was then transferred to RAMC.

The but I need help with reads:

?84 Corps RAMC Woolwich

Granted 5th rate Corps pay 4d 16.2.18

PII0, No. 57 d 26.2.18

Then it’s stamped MAJOR For ?CO RAMC

Any ideas please?

 

Post the image, or a link to the  record, that way we can put our own interpretation on it for you.

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CBB

Many thanks for your reply, I wasn’t sure if I was allowed to do that.698CAF57-19E6-467A-A460-8013A40B2502.jpeg.aca8f4b8ba4226e8c5815dc862b487e1.jpeg

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr
11 minutes ago, CBB said:

Many thanks for your reply, I wasn’t sure if I was allowed to do that.

Yes it's fine if it's for clarification of information.

If you were selling the image for commercial purposes, that would be different.

 

"84 Corps RAMC Woolwich

Granted 5th rate Corps pay 4d 16.2.18"                  Won't disagree with that.

 

"PII0"                                              I think it says p/d [= Per day- relates to the 4d pay]

"No. 57 d 26.2.18"                          Possibly the date range for the new pay rate   [maybe ? to 26.2.18]

 

 

 

 

" MAJOR For ?CO RAMC "

 

As you can see, these records are what have  survived the fire at Arnside in 1941.

The edge of the page has been burnt.

That original entry entry would have been a signature and the name of the officer who signed the entry, on behalf of the Officer Commanding (O/C) the Records Department, RAMC.

It would have been something like :

 [Signature]

MAJOR [ Name Unknown]

FOR O/C RAMC RECORDS.

 

 

 

 

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Hollie jones

yes i agree with Brigadier-General it does look like dates and rates of pay. The stamp would have been from the office/person who done the paperwork im guessing. 

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petestarling

84 Corps RAMC  does not make sense to me. The RAMC had companies and Woolwich was always 12 Company. We never had sub units called Corps. Is it perhaps indistinct on the paperwork due to the damage .

I can understand him being transferred. The RAMC had a lot of fit & healthy soldiers compulsory transferred to fill the ranks of the infantry and subsequently we gained those not fit for front line units in return.

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Keith Brannen

Throwing my 2 cents in on "84 Corps RAMC"

 

First off, it doesn't look like an 8 to me, when looking at the way the 8s are written  in the rest of the line.

It looks more like the way he has written a 5 (note the curls at the top and bottom of the 5s). However, could it be an "S" (as the top seems more rounded than his 5s, but that could be due to the document's condition and lack of clarity).

As well, his two "p"s in the line "rate Corps pay" are very distinctive and bold, whereas it isn't in the first instance.

It sort of looks more like "Coys" as I have seen Company or Companies written in several War Diaries I have transcribed.

As well, is that a 16 just before/slightly above the RAMC?

Not that" S4 (or 54) Coys 16 RAMC" makes any more sense.

 

The joys of trying to decipher other peoples' handwriting!

 

 

Edited by Keith Brannen

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CBB

I appreciate all your input and ideas as I am still quite new to all this.

Many thanks.

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Phil Evans

CBB,

 

Who is he?

Do you have a link to the record on Ancestry? I cannot blow the page up without it blurring.

 

The section above seems to refer to the Labour Corps.

The line below the rate of pay looks like it may, as Dai said above, start PIIO (Part 2 Orders)

 

Phil

 

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Phil Evans

I found him eventually - Henry James Perkins.

 

Is this clearer?

 

 

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

Good work Phil.

Much clearer.

Yes, it's 84 (or S4 or something similar!) Coys.  RAMC

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petestarling

34 Company was also at Woolwich at various times.

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TEW

Yes, OOB 1914 puts 34 Coy at Woolwich.

TEW

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charlie2

PII0 N 57 d 26.2.1918 = Part 2 Order N(umber) 57 d(ated) 26.2.1918, it is the order giving the date from which his new pay band is to be used.

 

Charlie

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CBB

Many thanks everyone, that makes more sense now. All your help is very much appreciated.

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