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Mametz Wood - public access problem?

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geraint

Conversing with forum pal Nigelcave regarding ownership and access, suggests that the ancient regime regarding public access to the woods may have changed with the death of the proprietor. Its two years since I last trod the fields and wood. Then, a friendly wave to the tractor drivers and huntsmen was always enough to allow access deep into the woods: and dependant on the crops - allowed one to walk the killing fields of Death Valley. Nigel suggests that things may have changed. does anyone have any current information on access to the Woods?

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geraint

Anyone been to the woods recently?

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suesalter1

One can only hope. Only been there once while on a battlefield tour. Would love to go again sometime.

 

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nikp

I am off there week after next so will send in a report. Fingers crossed.

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geraint

Look forward to hearing your report nikp! Have a good visit and pay my respect to the lads in the wood.

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nikp

Just got back. Mametz wood is still open to visitors. However there is a fair amount of timber work going on so be very careful. Two French lads working with chainsaws who weren't at all bothered. No signs or anything saying not to enter. Just treat the area with respect and I think it should be OK to visit.

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nikp

A couple of pics of the wood and its interior. Timber operations in progress.

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suesalter1

Brave lads going into the wood. Isn't there still unexploded shells in there? I think when we went in, we stuck close to the edge and on established paths.

 

Great photos. Thanks for posting.

 

Sue.

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horrocks

The timber felling has been going on in the hammerhead for some years. There's far more husbandry in French woods than ours here in the UK. It looks from the first photo pretty thoroughly thinned out now beyond the fringe.

 

I was always under the impression that Mametz Wood is strictly private and out of bounds. That is made very clear if you approach the wood from the Contalmaison-Longueval road - indeed there is a large and impenetrable gate to the main ride, with signs stating that it is private property. There is also a similar sign at the end of the track from Contalmaison communal cemetery.

 

A couple of years ago I noticed unauthorised scavengers had been at work on the lower strip trench area - there was a small heap of broken WW1 era mineral water bottles that had been discarded, and signs of digging.

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chaz
2 hours ago, horrocks said:

The timber felling has been going on in the hammerhead for some years. There's far more husbandry in French woods than ours here in the UK. It looks from the first photo pretty thoroughly thinned out now beyond the fringe.

 

I was always under the impression that Mametz Wood is strictly private and out of bounds. That is made very clear if you approach the wood from the Contalmaison-Longueval road - indeed there is a large and impenetrable gate to the main ride, with signs stating that it is private property.

 

all of the woods around our area are marked private, presumably the locals are protecting their investment. firewood is the cheapest heating fuel for the locals, we have an oil heater in one room, huille de chauffage central heating and  a log burner, the bottle oil recent bargain Carrefour E19.99  (normally E29.99) for 20litres, 500 litres of huille de chauffage over E650 last year and bois de chauffage 3 steere  E180, bricolage sells a steere for E65,

the bois is available in Beech, Oak, Elm, Fir, Apple, Walnut etc and various lengths 45cm-90cm in 5 cm variations.

I don't think its just the military connections that make woods private, just the chance they can stop locals and chancers from removing their only source of income.

Edited by chaz

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Frajohn

The reason that the woods are private is that they are used for hunting / shooting. During the season, which has just ended, they shoot anything that moves. Out of season they do not want the birds etc. disturbed. The rights to a  large number of the woods are owned by consortiums of businessmen for which they pay quite a large sum to the actual landowner. High Wood, for example is a consortium from Paris. It used to be possible to gain permission to visit High Wood but due to the amount of illegal access this is no longer the case. The owners of Mametz Wood are kind enough to allow access to Harry Fellow's grave but do not want any other access, hence, the signs referred to in Horrock's post.

 

Regards

 

John

 

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Karl P Murphy

I was at High Wood in 2008 and went in - not too far mind!

 

But I didn't go all that way just to stop at a gate either.

 

Took a couple of branches as 'souvenirs'. 

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Ricard 51

I have to say that your apparent lack of respect for this private land is rather  telling. Shame that you didn't get peppered by the local chasse!

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David Filsell

With proper husbandry of the wood , looks as if you could be in for a big surprise. - all that wretched junk and Welsh nationalistic crap may have beeN removed. Last time I visited the hammer head it looked an unloved disgrace.

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Ricard 51

I do wish that more visitors to all of these historic sites would simply either salute, respectfully bow heads or rest on arms reversed  and quietly walk away. No need to leave so many wreaths, pictures, croses, footballs, scarves etc that quite simply end up littering the land. Less is definately more l think. Just saying...and as for that area of car boot detritus behind the windmill... well.

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Ricard 51

Sorry, typo... crosses. Une autre faute  de frappe... should read "definitely". My english spelling fails me!

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Wrong spellings used

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