Gwyn jones Posted 3 February , 2018 Share Posted 3 February , 2018 Searching for a friend who`s` great grandfather died on the 9th june 1917, at ravine wood, the only deaths on the 9th june were in olive trench but not certain if he was one of them, he was with the 13th bn Middlesex regiment, she would like any info on him or even a picture if possible. it seems that only officers seem to be named, he is at the menin gate memorial and his service number was G/5541. cheers in advance, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 3 February , 2018 Share Posted 3 February , 2018 hello the local paper is your best bet for a picture - he was born in Whittlesey near Peterborough, Cambs but enlisted in Chelsea, Middx and T is for Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwyn jones Posted 3 February , 2018 Author Share Posted 3 February , 2018 7 minutes ago, Coldstreamer said: hello the local paper is your best bet for a picture - he was born in Whittlesey near Peterborough, Cambs but enlisted in Chelsea, Middx and T is for Thomas Thanks for that Coldstreamer, i will try the local paper, :-) his memorial photo is in Whittlesey cemetery, On 1/31/2018 at 21:47, heatherannej said: Hello there. I have been donated a batch of photographs (collected by a Great War V.A.D. nurse) to use within a couple of my Home Hospital site. Some identify the nurses and soldiers/regiments. I should like to include the unidentified ones though and if I can include the regiments, that would be a bonus for me. I aim to place them one by one on the Forum, hoping that members can help. Many thanks in advance ... this is the first one ... Heather P.S. I hope the image is good enough ... if it isn't, I will try to improve on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 3 February , 2018 Share Posted 3 February , 2018 Hi Gwyn jones, Reading between the lines of your post, I guess that you've already raided the sources on Ancestry/Findmypast and obtained medal roll, Soldiers Died, Soldiers Effects records, etc as well as the battalion war diary. In the absence of surviving service papers you may not be aware that the amount of war gratuity shown as paid in his Soldiers Effects record can be used to calculate a reliable date from which his service started - in your case circa November 1914. You may be able to refine that further by looking for papers of near number men - for example G/5548 Armstrong attested on 7th November 1914. Albert has a surviving will. It may well only consist of a very few words, and would come as a low resolution black and white scan of the original. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 3 February , 2018 Share Posted 3 February , 2018 His effects record would indicate enlistment in the month from 10 Oct 14 so it's not brilliant at narrowing the enlistment date in this instance. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 3 February , 2018 Share Posted 3 February , 2018 Hi Craig, 6 minutes ago, ss002d6252 said: His effects record would indicate enlistment in the month from 10 Oct 14 so it's not brilliant at narrowing the enlistment date in this instance. The month from 10th October would include 7th November. Do the dates differ because of 'roundings' in you calculators calculation? Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 3 February , 2018 Share Posted 3 February , 2018 1 minute ago, clk said: Hi Craig, The month from 10th October would include 7th November. Do the dates differ because of 'roundings' in you calculators calculation? Regards Chris There will be rounding in some cases - I should have added I did my calculation above manually. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 3 February , 2018 Share Posted 3 February , 2018 3 hours ago, Gwyn jones said: Thanks for that Coldstreamer, i will try the local paper, :-) his memorial photo is in Whittlesey cemetery, Where abouts ? Never noticed any photos when Ive been there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwyn jones Posted 3 February , 2018 Author Share Posted 3 February , 2018 51 minutes ago, Coldstreamer said: Where abouts ? Never noticed any photos when Ive been there Sorry mucked that up. god knows why i put photo after memorial, i meant his memorial is in Whittlesey cemetery, .........do you live locally in this area, ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwyn jones Posted 3 February , 2018 Author Share Posted 3 February , 2018 2 hours ago, clk said: Hi Gwyn jones, Reading between the lines of your post, I guess that you've already raided the sources on Ancestry/Findmypast and obtained medal roll, Soldiers Died, Soldiers Effects records, etc as well as the battalion war diary. In the absence of surviving service papers you may not be aware that the amount of war gratuity shown as paid in his Soldiers Effects record can be used to calculate a reliable date from which his service started - in your case circa November 1914. You may be able to refine that further by looking for papers of near number men - for example G/5548 Armstrong attested on 7th November 1914. Albert has a surviving will. It may well only consist of a very few words, and would come as a low resolution black and white scan of the original. Regards Chris Thanks Chris, the trouble with Ancestry etc is you have to pay to get the info, as its not for me and im doing it as a favour my wife would never let me do that lol, but you have opened a whole new world of searching for me, are there any free sites that you know of, im new to this so any help would be great......Gwyn, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 3 February , 2018 Share Posted 3 February , 2018 you can get ancestry free for a few weeks if a new account I used to work in Whittlesey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwyn jones Posted 3 February , 2018 Author Share Posted 3 February , 2018 1 minute ago, Coldstreamer said: you can get ancestry free for a few weeks if a new account I used to work in Whittlesey I will give it a go and see what happens, i do the Shrubs and hedges in Whittlesey/March/Wisbech and Chatteris, including all the cemeteries, thats what drew me to the site in the first place, after seeing all the war graves on my rounds, so i will be posting a few up in the future, is there such a thing as a map which lists all the registered war graves ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 3 February , 2018 Share Posted 3 February , 2018 you can search the CWGC by cemetery I may well have met you at some point, or at least seen you, used to be the local PCSO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwyn jones Posted 3 February , 2018 Author Share Posted 3 February , 2018 1 minute ago, Coldstreamer said: you can search the CWGC by cemetery I may well have met you at some point, or at least seen you, used to be the local PCSO Small world eh, just sussed the map, thanks for that, i work for ISS contracted by fenland council, ......going to have a good look around the cemetery. only found a dozen so i am missing 8 graves, by the way the person im researching for is Barbara who tends the graves in the Cemetery, just in case you know her, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 4 February , 2018 Share Posted 4 February , 2018 (edited) He left a soldier’s will https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Wills?Surname=Pointer&SurnameGrants=Pointer&YearOfDeath=1917&YearOfDeathGrants=1917&IsGrantSearch=False&IsCalendarSearch=False#soldiers 1911 has him in Fulham by the look of it. Living with wife Margaret. Profession Tailor(maker). Edited 4 February , 2018 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwyn jones Posted 4 February , 2018 Author Share Posted 4 February , 2018 9 hours ago, Mark1959 said: He left a soldier’s will https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Wills?Surname=Pointer&SurnameGrants=Pointer&YearOfDeath=1917&YearOfDeathGrants=1917&IsGrantSearch=False&IsCalendarSearch=False#soldiers 1911 has him in Fulham by the look of it. Living with wife Margaret. Profession Tailor(maker). Thanks for that Mark, but once again i would have to pay a tenner to see it, where did you get the info on him living in fulham in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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