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heatherannej

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heatherannej

Hello again ... it may be that you need to ask me to a take close up from this group photograph, before you can help me.   I can only tell you that this ended up amongst a V.A.D. nurse's collection photographs of nurses and soldiers - she worked at Frinton-on-Sea and Walton-on-Naze Home Hospitals, which won't help really.  One clue on the back of the photograph is the photographer's stamp: "W.T. MUNNS  7 & 8 WINDMILL ST. GRAVESEND".    I can see that some lads are Territorials, wearing the "Imperial Service" badges.   Any help will be so beneficial, thanks in advance.  Heather

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thetrenchrat22

Cap badge looks like Royal Engineers 

 

Royal Engineers - Fortress 

 

No. 5 Electric Lights Company, Gillingham with a drill station at Gravesend

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heatherannej

thetrenchrat22 ... Thanks so much for that, it helps a lot.   Heather

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mancpal

Some of the men have a 'badge above their right tunic pockets,  Anybody know what it is?

 

simon

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tullybrone

Hi,

 

It looks like the Imperial Service badge worn by TF to indicate willingness to serve overseas.

 

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depaor01

Looks like the Territorial Force Imperial Service Badge.

 

Dave

 

Edited by depaor01

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mancpal

Thanks, after nearly 30yrs  of delving around WW1 I can't recall seeing one before thus proving there is always more to learn.

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FROGSMILE
Posted (edited)

The Corporal seated slightly right of centre as you look has a single 'proficiency star' (note the 4-points) on his cuff.  That was not the usual place to wear it, as it was intended for sergeants and generally worn above their three stripes to prove that they were fully qualified in a set of core skills.  It is occasionally seen misused (or re-purposed in modern speak) as an alternative to the correct judging distance badge (also a type of star), presumably when the latter was not available.  It is difficult to be sure what its purpose is in this case.

Edited by FROGSMILE

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heatherannej

A "better late than never" thank you, Frogsmile .... appreciated.

 

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PhilB

Only 3 men appear to wear a lanyard. Privately bought as an "appearance improver" or did only 3 men have something (a whistle?) to hang on one?:unsure:

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HERITAGE PLUS
Posted (edited)

Coincidently their was an RGA Drill Hall in Windmill Street, Gravesend. 

 

Dave

 

Edited by HERITAGE PLUS
Typo correction

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Stebie9173

A couple of the men in the front row appear to be wearing Economy Service Dress (ESD) without the pleats on the breast pockets so it would suggest a 1915 to 1916 date.

 

Steve.

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heatherannej

Thank you Stebie9173, for the dating - I appreciate the observation.  Much appreciated.  Heather   

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