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Royal engineer Photographs ?Any information sought


RGJDEE

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This is E J Standen. A Royal Engineer and my great grandfather.

could anyone assist with any information from the three photographs ?

family one is dated 1914

unit photo 1915 ( Ern is holding the boot )

portrait is dated July 1918” Scotland”

thanks in advance

Richard.

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Not sure you can work too much out from the photos, the first to me as per your previous thread about EJ Standen  is a "spoof" photo theSporren which to me is Seathforths doesnt match the Tam 'O shanter. 

 

The group photo to me has a mix of different units (differing cap badges, on the hats you can see (front left look the same), and some are wearing Territorial Force badges), so could by at Infantry Base Depot, or ar hospital recovering from an illness...the top line of the sign says Officers but can't make out the line below.

 

Andy

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Thanks Andy , can you put me straight on the “stripes”

i presime the single on upper arm is lance bombardier , what about the twin stripes on the lower arm ?

Richard

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The sign probably  says ‘Officers Servants’, which may account for the boot.  The Imperial Service Tablet worn on the right breast suggests the photo was taken in the. UK and probably in 1914/15.

 

Ken

 

 

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8 hours ago, RGJDEE said:

Thanks Andy , can you put me straight on the “stripes”

i presime the single on upper arm is lance bombardier , what about the twin stripes on the lower arm ?

Richard

Single stripe is Lance Corporal, Bombardier would be Artillery.

 

The two stripes are good conduct badges, easy to googlr the criteria and background.

 

Ken, yep I can see it Servants...and Ernest is holding a boot brush in his right hand....would have been a  "Batman"  or did they do this as a "duty" every now and again?

 

Andy

 

 

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To be pedantic, I believe a single stripe could also denote an RE 2nd Corporal (a rank, not appointment). 

 

Cheers, Pat.

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Thanks to you both

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Having just looked at the other thread, and seeing mention of The Royal Sussex Regiment, I think the group photo may well be Sussex territorials (5th (Cinque Ports) Battalion?), and judging by the efficiency star one is wearing (together with a nice regimental belt buckle), a group of long-serving territorials to boot.

 

Does zooming in on the cap badges show anything of use?

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1 hour ago, Steven Broomfield said:

Sussex territorials (5th (Cinque Ports) Battalion?),

Steven, I think you might be right.

 

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That would make sense as Ernie was from Rye and incidentally he served in the Rye Home guard in WW 2.

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Ernie is 1st left 3rd row from front .

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Steven and Andy , thankyou both 

following your posts regarding 5th cinque ports , found earnest on the  battalion rolls of 1914 . 

Thanks again 

Richard

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Ta-da!!!!

 

;)

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Nice one Steven almost gave up. Tried all the mainstream sites for his service record. No luck. 

Next question ........ 5th Bn RSR

became pioneer Bn in 1915 how did Ernie end up in RE ? ( grandma s treasured cap badge)

will have to hope MOD records will reveal more .

cant thank you enough R

 

 

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21 minutes ago, RGJDEE said:

became pioneer Bn in 1915 how did Ernie end up in RE

Quite common for Pioneer Btns to work alongside (for) RE units, so transfers perhaps equally as common too.

 

It's not a bad capbadge at all 😊

 

Andy

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just wanted to let you gents know,following your information the records office have confirmed that they do hold documents related to Ernie and I am in the process of obtaining them,

I will post them when they arrive , thanks again . Richard

 

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