Chasemuseum Posted 24 January , 2018 Share Posted 24 January , 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, trajan said: I have never seen a de-hooked (or circumcised???!!!) one that badly done before! Really was a'snipping' job! Hi Julian, yes they did some nasty work. I have seen and own some bad ones, but this is probably the worst I have seen To make one cry, I have a 1913 Lithgow, refurbished in 1922, with a very professional job of removing the quillion. Cheers Ross Edited 24 January , 2018 by Chasemuseum spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5thBatt Posted 24 January , 2018 Share Posted 24 January , 2018 5 hours ago, Chasemuseum said: Hi Julian, yes they did some nasty work. I have seen and own some bad ones, but this is probably the worst I have seen To make one cry, I have a 1913 Lithgow, refurbished in 1922, with a very professional job of removing the quillion. Cheers Ross This is the knife i use at work! Dont worry i did not do this, found it here at my workshop when i first moved in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 24 January , 2018 Share Posted 24 January , 2018 22 minutes ago, 5thBatt said: This is the knife i use at work! Dont worry i did not do this, found it here at my workshop when i first moved in Ouch...certainly been well used!! for years I was looking for a decent H.Q. but prices so high now I had given up, until I found the one below. Great as a display piece once in scabbard and frog, as I have a wall displaying one of each pattern from P1888 to P1907...but what was someone thinking!!! Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depaor01 Posted 24 January , 2018 Author Share Posted 24 January , 2018 22 minutes ago, Dave66 said: Ouch...certainly been well used!! for years I was looking for a decent H.Q. but prices so high now I had given up, until I found the one below. Great as a display piece once in scabbard and frog, as I have a wall displaying one of each pattern from P1888 to P1907...but what was someone thinking!!! Dave. A devilish part of me wonders if it could be 'rebuilt' with an appropriately dated blade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 24 January , 2018 Share Posted 24 January , 2018 2 minutes ago, depaor01 said: A devilish part of me wonders if it could be 'rebuilt' with an appropriately dated blade... The devilish part of me had the same thought funnily enough....but I find it more fascinating as to why??? no rust or pitting so not an angle grinder restoration...best I can come up with is regimental carving knife in say officers or sargeants mess!!?, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depaor01 Posted 24 January , 2018 Author Share Posted 24 January , 2018 38 minutes ago, Dave66 said: The devilish part of me had the same thought funnily enough....but I find it more fascinating as to why??? no rust or pitting so not an angle grinder restoration...best I can come up with is regimental carving knife in say officers or sargeants mess!!?, A great wedding cake-slicing conversation piece! Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 24 January , 2018 Share Posted 24 January , 2018 23 minutes ago, depaor01 said: A great wedding cake-slicing conversation piece! Dave Brilliant idea...I could hire it out and make some money instead of spending it, a little bit of clever marketing and.....ww1 themed weddings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trajan Posted 25 January , 2018 Share Posted 25 January , 2018 10 hours ago, 5thBatt said: This is the knife i use at work! Dont worry i did not do this, found it here at my workshop when i first moved in 9 hours ago, Dave66 said: Ouch...certainly been well used!! Double ouch! reminds me of that post-WW1 photograph of the man making holes in German steel helmets not anticipating ther future intrinsic and extrinsic value... I do, incidentally, often use a Peabody-Martini sabre bayonet for cutting birthday cakes - after removing the gun oil! - and the boys do love that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depaor01 Posted 1 February , 2018 Author Share Posted 1 February , 2018 I think this is heading for silly money so I will not be a contender. Anyway more images here now that I've held it in my hand. Does anyone have a steer on how the forum views me publicising where it's being sold? Needless to say I have no connection with the auction house or the seller. I wish I had! It has been sharpened. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5thBatt Posted 1 February , 2018 Share Posted 1 February , 2018 4 hours ago, depaor01 said: I think this is heading for silly money so I will not be a contender. Anyway more images here now that I've held it in my hand. Does anyone have a steer on how the forum views me publicising where it's being sold? Needless to say I have no connection with the auction house or the seller. I wish I had! It has been sharpened. Dave Correct 1910 dated scabbered & a NZ Mounted Rifles pattern of frog same as my 3 examples, shame its been sharpened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 1 February , 2018 Share Posted 1 February , 2018 6 hours ago, depaor01 said: I think this is heading for silly money so I will not be a contender. Anyway more images here now that I've held it in my hand. Does anyone have a steer on how the forum views me publicising where it's being sold? Needless to say I have no connection with the auction house or the seller. I wish I had! It has been sharpened. Dave All very nice indeed, fingers crossed but could do really well if well catalogued and plenty of phone lines....what is the estimate? Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depaor01 Posted 1 February , 2018 Author Share Posted 1 February , 2018 1 hour ago, Dave66 said: All very nice indeed, fingers crossed but could do really well if well catalogued and plenty of phone lines....what is the estimate? Dave. Under 200 Euro to attract punters presumably. Shame. At least I held one in my lifetime (sob) Anyway this thread will at least inform future purchasers. Thanks for all your inputs. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depaor01 Posted 1 February , 2018 Author Share Posted 1 February , 2018 PM me if anyone wants to bid. Funds disallow me from bidding I'm afraid. Damn. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 1 February , 2018 Share Posted 1 February , 2018 32 minutes ago, depaor01 said: Under 200 Euro to attract punters presumably. Shame. At least I held one in my lifetime (sob) Anyway this thread will at least inform future purchasers. Thanks for all your inputs. Dave I want to a local auction a few years ago and the estimates were a tad conservative on most of the lots....by the time the room was out and the phones and Internet kicked in the prices were astounding....never been again. Might be worth a bid just you can say it was the one that got away!! It would be too much for me to try and explain to my better half so I'm out, but would be interesting if you could post the hammer price, give us all a shock. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depaor01 Posted 2 February , 2018 Author Share Posted 2 February , 2018 25 minutes ago, Dave66 said: I want to a local auction a few years ago and the estimates were a tad conservative on most of the lots....by the time the room was out and the phones and Internet kicked in the prices were astounding....never been again. Might be worth a bid just you can say it was the one that got away!! It would be too much for me to try and explain to my better half so I'm out, but would be interesting if you could post the hammer price, give us all a shock. Dave. Every word of your post I agree with. I'm up to 300 Euro and am confident I won't get it. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5thBatt Posted 2 February , 2018 Share Posted 2 February , 2018 My 3 cost NZ$1200 (otd auction) $1000 (private sale) & $200 (secondhand shop but covered in surface rust but still a steal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 2 February , 2018 Share Posted 2 February , 2018 10 hours ago, depaor01 said: Every word of your post I agree with. I'm up to 300 Euro and am confident I won't get it. Dave Sad to say I think you're right, the scabbard with those very clear markings and the frog alone are of considerable interest....then there's the overall condition of the bayonet even with the sharpening. I think you'd have to double or maybee triple that 300 euro figure....some collectors have very deep pockets and just keep on bidding. The price of any bog standard H.Q. astounds me now, the only way I've ever found the rarities at reasonable prices has been via antique shops that don't necessarily specialise in militaria and dealers that have brought direct from estates....sheer luck at times. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 2 February , 2018 Share Posted 2 February , 2018 10 hours ago, 5thBatt said: My 3 cost NZ$1200 (otd auction) $1000 (private sale) & $200 (secondhand shop but covered in surface rust but still a steal) Very good finds 5thBatt, green with envy about the last one but right place right time...well done. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyH Posted 2 February , 2018 Share Posted 2 February , 2018 I was fortunate enough to pick up last weekend at auction a 1909 Sanderson H.Q. for £150 hammer price, plus the usual charges. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 2 February , 2018 Share Posted 2 February , 2018 That was very very lucky, depends on how big the auction and how well catalogued I suppose....reasonable prices still out there, the knack is knowing where to look. love to see it if you have time, All the best, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 11 February , 2018 Share Posted 11 February , 2018 (edited) Looking back at this one, well, an excellent pairig and I can see how a really dedicated colelctor with the means will go for it - I would if it was in my area of interest! So, what was the final price? Oh, and while on the subject of relic condition bayonets, have a look at this pair, on offer over here and I think we can all guess where they came from... Edited 11 February , 2018 by trajan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawryleslie Posted 11 February , 2018 Share Posted 11 February , 2018 (edited) Slightly off topic. I have a WW2 Japanese bayonet with Matsushita Kinzoku KK Arsenal (National Denki) stamp that my father "confiscated" from a Japanese POW in Burma. It’s almost identical to the OPs. Edited 11 February , 2018 by Lawryleslie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 11 February , 2018 Share Posted 11 February , 2018 Not that off topic as the HQ P.1907 was based on the Japanese Type 30 Arisaka bayonet of 1897! Is yours dated? The forward hooked quillon on these and the P.1907 is, in a manner of speaking, a skeuomorph, an inherited feature that was originally functional, as with the quillon on fencing swords for catching an opponents' blade and snapping it, easily done with light swords, but has become decorative, i.e., it may have been intended to have a functional use in bayonet fightng but was very rarely used as such in the GW - as far as I am aware - although yes, soldiers did practice the necessary skills. Trajan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depaor01 Posted 11 February , 2018 Author Share Posted 11 February , 2018 2 hours ago, trajan said: Looking back at this one, well, an excellent pairig and I can see how a really dedicated colelctor with the means will go for it - I would if it was in my area of interest! So, what was the final price? I think it's ok to say that it went to a antipodean forum member so it will be heading back. The bad news is 480 Euro plus 30% buyer premium plus 120 Euro shipping. There was a Thai 1920s Mauser in the same lot. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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