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I'm about to work on some correspondence  (1914-1915) from and to an individual (anon RND) present at the  Battle of Antwerp. I would like some context and thought it would be useful to read a good account of the battle, the role of the RND and aftermath.

 

Thank you for any suggestions.

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seaJane

On four fronts with the Royal Naval Division / by Sparrow, Geoffrey & Ross, J. N. MacBean, surgeons RN.

 London : Hodder & Stoughton, 1918. 

Online here: https://archive.org/details/onfourfrontswith00sparrich

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TGM
7 minutes ago, Chris_Baker said:

 

Thank you, General.

Someone needs to fix the Antwerp  1914-1918 link - goes to http://ww5.antwerpen1914-1918.be/ which looks in need of some TLC.

 

6 minutes ago, seaJane said:

On four fronts with the Royal Naval Division / by Sparrow, Geoffrey & Ross, J. N. MacBean, surgeons RN.

 London : Hodder & Stoughton, 1918. 

Online here: https://archive.org/details/onfourfrontswith00sparrich

 

Fab!

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Chris_Baker
41 minutes ago, TGM said:

Someone needs to fix the Antwerp  1914-1918 link - goes to http://ww5.antwerpen1914-1918.be/ which looks in need of some TLC.

 

Fixed by removing the link. I really can't be bothered maintaining links to other people's websites. Google is your friend!

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greatspywar

If you're able to read Dutch or French there is plenty of literature and archival sources... . 

 

The War Heritage Institute/Royal Military Museum in Brussels has got some nice photographs of the RND in Antwerp in 1914. Make sure to come and pay us a visit!

 

Good luck!

 

Jan

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michaeldr

The history of the RND including its action in 1914 at Antwerp are covered in the divisional history written by Douglas Jerrold: 'The Royal Naval Division'
The action is also covered in battalion histories - eg: The Hood Battalion by Len Sellers and Nelson at War by Capt Roy Swales RN rtd
Len Sellers also produced 24 issues of the magazine 'RND' which not only covers the action at Antwerp, but also the aftermath; eg the internment in Holland and the RN's court of inquiry. A disc with all 24 issues of the magazine is available from the Crystal Palace shop here http://www.crystalpalacefoundation.org.uk/shop/world-war-one-two/royal-naval-division
The part played in this action by the RM is covered in Blumberg's history 'Britain's Sea Soldiers'

 

Good luck with your project

Michael

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TGM
On 11/22/2017 at 18:51, greatspywar said:

If you're able to read Dutch or French there is plenty of literature and archival sources... . 

 

The War Heritage Institute/Royal Military Museum in Brussels has got some nice photographs of the RND in Antwerp in 1914. Make sure to come and pay us a visit!

 

Good luck!

 

Jan

A reason to visit Brussels.

On 11/23/2017 at 07:09, michaeldr said:

The history of the RND including its action in 1914 at Antwerp are covered in the divisional history written by Douglas Jerrold: 'The Royal Naval Division'
The action is also covered in battalion histories - eg: The Hood Battalion by Len Sellers and Nelson at War by Capt Roy Swales RN rtd
Len Sellers also produced 24 issues of the magazine 'RND' which not only covers the action at Antwerp, but also the aftermath; eg the internment in Holland and the RN's court of inquiry. A disc with all 24 issues of the magazine is available from the Crystal Palace shop here http://www.crystalpalacefoundation.org.uk/shop/world-war-one-two/royal-naval-division
The part played in this action by the RM is covered in Blumberg's history 'Britain's Sea Soldiers'

 

Good luck with your project

Michael

Super. Many thanks

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On 22/11/2017 at 18:51, greatspywar said:

If you're able to read Dutch or French there is plenty of literature and archival sources... . 

 

The War Heritage Institute/Royal Military Museum in Brussels has got some nice photographs of the RND in Antwerp in 1914. Make sure to come and pay us a visit!

 

Good luck!

 

Jan

 Hi Jan, 

 

Thank you for your post and information.

 

I wonder if you can throw any light on an "RND at Antwerp" topic?  Preserved in Dundee is HMS Unicorn, launched in 1824 and a Naval Reserve Drill ship from about 1870 until 1968.  In 1914 many of these Naval Reservists were drafted to the RND and served in Antwerp.  Included were the Ship's Band members, civilians who joined at the outbreak of war and became the Hood Battalion Band.  Local folklore says that during the withdrawal the Band left their instruments behind hidden in a school or buried and that they were recovered after the War. 

 

The problem is that I have not found any evidence to support the story.  Have you come across anything about this in the War Heritage Institute/ Royal Military Museum in Brussels?

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7 hours ago, wallace2 said:

Have you come across anything about this in the War Heritage Institute/ Royal Military Museum in Brussels?

 

I'll ask around! I'll get back to you as soon as possible.

 

Cheers,

 

Jan

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8 hours ago, wallace2 said:

Local folklore says that during the withdrawal the Band left their instruments behind hidden in a school or buried and that they were recovered after the War. 

 

Did you already check the war diary for this unit during their stay in Antwerp? Where were they quartered exactly, any idea?

 

 

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On 27/11/2017 at 08:57, greatspywar said:

Did you already check the war diary for this unit during their stay in Antwerp? Where were they quartered exactly, any idea?

 

 Hi Jan,

 

Thank you for replying so quickly and apologies for the length of time to respond. 

 

I do not have access to the Hood Battalion War Diary so have not been able to look at the period 6th to 10th October 1914.  From Len Sellars book "The Hood Battalion" it would appear that the 2nd Naval Brigade arrived in Antwerp's main railway station at 0730 on 6th October and marched to the village of Kiel andwhere they were instructed to find billets.

 

However, he also writes that the 2nd Naval Brigade (Howe, Hood Anson and Nelson) arrived at Wilrijk railway station and marched to their positions between Vrende and Boschhoek.  Once there orders were changed several times and they were billeted at the village of Vienne Dieu.    At 0230 on the 7th October Hood Battalion moved into trenches between Fort 5 and 6.  Here they remained until ordered to withdraw at about 1800 on 8th October.   The  first Hood and Howe men reached Wilrijk at 1900 and the last at 2030.  From there they matched to the pontoon bridge near Hoboken, crossing it and from there to Brucht and on to Zwyndrecht reaching it at 2200.  From there they marched towards St Nicholas.  After 20 miles marching from the trenches Hood and Howe reached St Gillies Waes railway station at 0700 on 9th October.  From where they entrained to Selzaete close to the Dutch frontier and on to Ostende.

 

I hope this helps!

 

Iain

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horatio2

Antwerp war diaries for the RND naval battalions have not survived.

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wallace2

Horatio2,

 

Thanks for that, I wasn't sure if they existed!

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