Peterhastie Posted 30 October , 2017 Share Posted 30 October , 2017 Could someone do a look up please in "Airmen Died in the Great War" for Lewis Umphrey Henderson, died 29/10/1918 and Henry Girling Henderson, died 29/09/1918. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrenchrat22 Posted 31 October , 2017 Share Posted 31 October , 2017 Henderson, Sgt Henry Girling (1136) 63 Tr Sqn, Pilot Kwf 29/09/1918 buried at Newcastle-upon-Tyne (St Nicholas) Northumb kwf in Camel E1574 Henderson, 2nd/Lt Lewis H. Died 29/10/1918. Buried at Newcastle-upon-Tyne (St Nicholas) Northumb. Died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpjpl Posted 31 October , 2017 Share Posted 31 October , 2017 Henry Girling Henderson: http://www.rafmuseumstoryvault.org.uk/pages/raf_vault.php?&RAF-titel=Henderson%2C H.G&van=1 Lewis H Henderson: http://www.rafmuseumstoryvault.org.uk/pages/raf_vault.php?RAF-titel=Henderson%2C+H.G&RAF-titel=Henderson%2C L.H&van=1 JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josquin Posted 31 October , 2017 Share Posted 31 October , 2017 The birth registry gives the name as "Lewis Humphrey Henderson" rather than "Umphrey." The place of registration, Newcastle, corresponds with the location of his death at home, from natural causes. His birth was registered in 1894. Josquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpjpl Posted 31 October , 2017 Share Posted 31 October , 2017 (edited) Lewis Umphrey Henderson: http://www.rafmuseumstoryvault.org.uk/pages/raf_vault.php?&RAF-titel=Henderson%2C L.U.&van=1 JP Edit: His Medal Index Catd is on ancestry. Edit: Registration Death Index - Name: Lewis U Henderson Death Age: 24 Birth Date: abt 1894 Registration Date: Dec 1918 Registration district: Reading Edited 31 October , 2017 by helpjpl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted 31 October , 2017 Share Posted 31 October , 2017 6 hours ago, thetrenchrat22 said: Henderson, Sgt Henry Girling (1136) 63 Tr Sqn, Pilot Kwf 29/09/1918 buried at Newcastle-upon-Tyne (St Nicholas) Northumb kwf in Camel E1574 Henderson, 2nd/Lt Lewis H. Died 29/10/1918. Buried at Newcastle-upon-Tyne (St Nicholas) Northumb. Died The engine of Camel E1574 choked at 80 feet during take off from Joyce Green. The aeroplane then stalled during a turn before spinning into the ground. Gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterhastie Posted 31 October , 2017 Author Share Posted 31 October , 2017 Thankyou all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loader Posted 31 October , 2017 Share Posted 31 October , 2017 Poor Girling. Hadn't he been told if the engine quit to land straight ahead if possible but never try to turn, especially in a Camel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josquin Posted 1 November , 2017 Share Posted 1 November , 2017 (edited) H.G. Henderson and L.U. (or L.H.) Henderson appear to be brothers. The 1901 Census lists Robert & Mary A. Henderson, of Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, as having several children, among them Lewis T.H., aged 7 & Henry G., aged 4, both born at Newcastle. Henry Girling Henderson, son of Robert & Mary Anna Henderson, was Christened on 15 September 1897, at Elswick, Northumberland, and his birth was registered at Newcastle during the 1st Quarter of 1897 (his RAF service record states his birthdate as 5 January 1896, but the BMD and Census verify the correct year as 1897). Lewis' RAF service record gives a 6 January 1894 birthdate and gives his name as "Lewis Umphrey Henderson," and as "Lewis U." in his marriage registration (to Janet L. Smith at Tynemouth in 4th Quarter 1917) and in his death registry (at Reading, Berkshire in 4th Quarter 1918). However, the RAF Museum casualty cards include two three different cards, two for "Lewis Umphrey Henderson" and one for "Lewis H. Henderson," with L.U. and L.H. having the same death date written on the cards (not the transcriptions)--29 October 1918. The casualty cards also list Robert Henderson, of Newcastle, as the father of L.U. and H.G., one of the cards also stating that L.U. died of influenza and pneumonia at No. 4 War Hospital, at Reading, on 29 October 1918. Given the biographical specifics I have stated, I suggest that Lewis' birth name was Lewis Humphrey Henderson (or Lewis Humphrey T. Henderson), as indicated by his birth registration and the 1901 Census, but that he chose to refer to himself as Lewis Umphrey Henderson as an adult. One of Lewis' casualty cards states that he was a Second Lieutenant and an Assistant Instructor in the R.A.F. at the time of his death. Henry has a' RAF service record that lists him as "Cadet," so he had attained this status though his official rank appears to have been Sergeant, as per his casualty card As Dolphin indicated, both airmen were buried at Newcastle--their birthplace. Josquin Edited 1 November , 2017 by josquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted 1 November , 2017 Share Posted 1 November , 2017 2 hours ago, josquin said: As Dolphin indicated, both airmen were buried at Newcastle--their birthplace. Josquin Not me - I only supplied information on the crash of Camel E1574. Gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpjpl Posted 1 November , 2017 Share Posted 1 November , 2017 2 hours ago, josquin said: H.G. Henderson and L.U. (or L.H.) Henderson appear to be brothers. The 1901 Census lists Robert & Mary A. Henderson, of Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, as having several children, among them Lewis T.H., aged 7 & Henry G., aged 4, both born at Newcastle. Henry Girling Henderson, son of Robert & Mary Anna Henderson, was Christened on 15 September 1897, at Elswick, Northumberland, and his birth was registered at Newcastle during the 1st Quarter of 1897 (his RAF service record states his birthdate as 5 January 1896, but the BMD and Census verify the correct year as 1897). Lewis' RAF service record gives a 6 January 1894 birthdate and gives his name as "Lewis Umphrey Henderson," and as "Lewis U." in his marriage registration (to Janet L. Smith at Tynemouth in 4th Quarter 1917) and in his death registry (at Reading, Berkshire in 4th Quarter 1918). However, the RAF Museum casualty cards include two three different cards, two for "Lewis Umphrey Henderson" and one for "Lewis H. Henderson," with L.U. and L.H. having the same death date written on the cards (not the transcriptions)--29 October 1918. The casualty cards also list Robert Henderson, of Newcastle, as the father of L.U. and H.G., one of the cards also stating that L.U. died of influenza and pneumonia at No. 4 War Hospital, at Reading, on 29 October 1918. Given the biographical specifics I have stated, I suggest that Lewis' birth name was Lewis Humphrey Henderson (or Lewis Humphrey T. Henderson), as indicated by his birth registration and the 1901 Census, but that he chose to refer to himself as Lewis Umphrey Henderson as an adult. One of Lewis' casualty cards states that he was a Second Lieutenant and an Assistant Instructor in the R.A.F. at the time of his death. Henry has a' RAF service record that lists him as "Cadet," so he had attained this status though his official rank appears to have been Sergeant, as per his casualty card As Dolphin indicated, both airmen were buried at Newcastle--their birthplace. Josquin 1911 Census: Lewis Umphrey Henderson (17) Clerk living at home in Newcastle upon Tyne with father Robert, mother Mary Anna and siblings Sarah Agatha, Henry Girling, Robert William, and Annie Ethel. JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josquin Posted 1 November , 2017 Share Posted 1 November , 2017 1 hour ago, Dolphin said: Not me - I only supplied information on the crash of Camel E1574. Gareth Gareth, My apologies, as the source was The Trenchrat22 and your post quoted him. Josquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 9 September , 2018 Share Posted 9 September , 2018 Hi i'm new to this site, i was also researching Lewis Umphrey Henderson and discovered his wife Janet Lilian Smith also died on the 4th quarter of 1918 in Reading, Berkshire. Very strange. Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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