alf mcm Posted 15 August , 2017 Share Posted 15 August , 2017 (edited) William George Wyatt enlisted as J26589 Boy, Second Class in 1913. He was invalided as an Ordinary Seaman on 22nd June 1916, and was awarded a Silver War Badge on 20th October 1916. Is there any way of knowing why he was invalided from the Navy? Regards, Alf McM Edited 15 August , 2017 by alf mcm Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 15 August , 2017 Share Posted 15 August , 2017 I presume you have seen this? I would have expected there to be some reason given against "Invalided", in the remarks. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6878635 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf mcm Posted 16 August , 2017 Author Share Posted 16 August , 2017 Thanks Seajane. Yes, I do have his service record, it is also available here on Ancestry https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/60522/43343_700_0-00089?pid=366600&backurl=http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DbmY2945%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26db%3Droyalnavyseamen%26gss%3Dangs-d%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26msT%3D1%26gsfn%3Dwilliam%20george%26gsfn_x%3D1%26gsln%3Dwyatt%26gsln_x%3D1%26MS_AdvCB%3D1%26cp%3D11%26catbucket%3Drstp%26MSAV%3D2%26cpxt%3D1%26pcat%3DMIL_DRAFT%26fh%3D6%26h%3D366600%26recoff%3D%26ml_rpos%3D7&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=bmY2945&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true After 'invalided' it says 'Plymouth, then something which I can't read. Regards, Alf McM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 16 August , 2017 Share Posted 16 August , 2017 After 'invalided' it says 'Plymouth, then something which I can't read. Hospital ? Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf mcm Posted 16 August , 2017 Author Share Posted 16 August , 2017 Ray, That's what I thought it should be, but it didn't look like 'hospital'. Regards, Alf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 16 August , 2017 Share Posted 16 August , 2017 Yes, I read it as Hosp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 16 August , 2017 Share Posted 16 August , 2017 I was hoping the hospital muster books for Plymouth in ADM 102 might help but they are only held till the 1890s. I suppose there's no sign of your man joining the Navy again later? If after 1925 his records will still be with thr MOD if I recall correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 16 August , 2017 Share Posted 16 August , 2017 I doubt that the precise reason for his invaliding is to be found in surviving records. However, it is of note that his final assessment of ability as an ordinary seaman at the end of 1915 saw a marked downgrade from "Sat[isfactory]'" to "Inf[erior]" (= Inefficient in substantive rating - although he had only held that rating for one month) - as low as it could go. Oddly, his final ability assessment from HMS VIVID, six months later, was "Superior" (= above average). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf mcm Posted 16 August , 2017 Author Share Posted 16 August , 2017 Thanks to you both. Seajane, I'm not sure if he went back to the Royal Navy. His father was a Merchant Seaman, so he may have joined the merchant service. In 1939 he was a Petrol Trolley Bus Driver. Horatio, I did think his ability ratings were a bit odd. Abig leap from inferior to superior. It seems then that there is no way of finding out why he was invalided. The Silver War Badge Roll doesn't give any clues. Regards, Alf McM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 16 August , 2017 Share Posted 16 August , 2017 4 hours ago, alf mcm said: His father was a Merchant Seaman, so he may have joined the merchant service. I can't find him in the BT listings, Alf, so it looks as if not. I suppose you definitely are looking for the Bristol man born 1897? There are eight other William George Wyatts in ADM, although two of them were probably too young to serve. sJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf mcm Posted 16 August , 2017 Author Share Posted 16 August , 2017 Thanks sJ, I looked at the BT records as well after I made my last post, and I couldn't find him either. Yes, I am defenitely looking for William George Wyatt born in Bristol on 4th December 1897. Regards, Alf McM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 16 August , 2017 Share Posted 16 August , 2017 The majority of the service records I have looked at show T B (Pulmonary tuberculosis) as the number one reason for being discharged (invalided out) of the Navy T B a highly infectious and contagious disease easy spread in the confines of ships I believe there was no cure at the time Maybe others would like to comment on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 16 August , 2017 Share Posted 16 August , 2017 Copied this from a post I made a while back (2014!) regarding TB - "As it happens, the introduction of ironclads to the RN led to a distinct rise in cases of TB, probably because the use of watertight iron generated a condensation problem thanks to the limited circulation of air. As a result, the germs tended to stay concentrated in the areas where crew slept and ate, instead of being dispersed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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