A quite rare MBE for Third Afghan but no Image

[Kimberley John Lindsay]

Dear GWFs,

Not many MBEs went to the MAD (Military Accounts Department), Indian Army - but Lieut W. P. Platt was one of two MAD subalterns to receive the award (and BWM and IGS Afgh NWF 1919).

I have asked about an Image for Platt before - perhaps contemporary newspapers? - but this is a last, desperate, appeal to GWF expertise: otherwise the medals will be binned...

Kindest regards,

Kim. thelindsayhouse@web.de

[RaySearching]

Hi Kim 

 

I had a look at your previous 2015 post on W P  Platt 

 

also your write up  on the word Doc re  William P Platt

 

From your Document you wrote

(On 22 Oct 1928, W. P. Platt ‘Salesman’ and his wife, both aged 42, arrived in Liverpool from Las Palmas, Spain, on the S.S. “Ardeola” (1785 tons), of the Howard Line. Their address was 27 Greenwood Avenue, Blackpool, and daughter Gladys may well have been married by this time…

 

William Percival Platt, of 27 Greenwood Avenue, Blackpool, died on 23 Apr 1959 and left £7431 12s to his widow Lena Platt. [He had possibly remarried, or perhaps Gertrude styled herself as ‘Lena’)

 

May I suggest you review the above

 

There was two William Percival Platts births registered in lancashire in the June Qtr of 1886

The second  W P Platt married Lena Mitchell in June 1931 

 

I believe you have inadvertently combined the two as one, consequently Greenwood Avenue Blackpool is not relevant in a search for an image

hope this helps

Regards Ray

[Kimberley John Lindsay]

Dear Ray,

Thanks for revealing two W. P. Platts!

I will delete the wrong one in my manuscript, straightaway.

Kindest regards,

Kim.

[alf mcm]

Ray,

  I think the 2 William Percival Platts registered in Lancashire are the same person, assuming you are refering to the records on Ancestry. They have noted by Ancestry on  one of the records on page 381 and the other on page 581. A check of the records show that both indicate thate page 581 is correct.

  William's first wife Gertrude died on 14th May 1930. See Ancestry probate record;- https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1904/31874_222926-00687?pid=5390490&backurl=http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DbmY2782%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26db%3Dukprobatecal%26gss%3Dangs-d%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26MS_AdvCB%3D1%26gsfn%3Dgertrude%26gsfn_x%3D1%26gsln%3Dplatt%26gsln_x%3D1%26cpxt%3D1%26cp%3D11%26MSAV%3D2%26uidh%3D9y4%26pcat%3DCLP_WILLS%26fh%3D1%26h%3D5390490%26recoff%3D%26ml_rpos%3D2&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=bmY2782&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

  The 1939 Register {England} on Findmypast shows William being married to Lena Platt, living in Blackpool.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

[RaySearching]

Alf  I stand corrected

the probate record clinches it

Kim apologies please again  amend your manuscript 

The two William P Platts  births I took of free BMD  not Ancestry 

Will have another look tomorrow its getting late

Regards Ray

[Kimberley John Lindsay]

Dear Alf and Ray,

Immediate MBEs to both of you (if i had anything to do with it), and thanks for persuing the elusive erstwhile T/Capt Platt who (possibly based at Quetta), apparently did his Military Accounts Department job with a high degree of capability.

As with the astounding never-ending thread of the 22 MMG Bty soldiers, Platt was fortunate not to have been drawn into the vortex of the Western Front - serving in less dangerous areas. 

Kindest regards,

Kim.

[RaySearching]

Kim I always like to try and go back and recheck the data which may have thrown up a clue to find a photo of him

Unfortunately I was mislead by the double W P Platt's birth entry's

I found Williams  marriage to Gertrude,  I at first suspected  he had remarried to a "Lena"  to explain the inconsistence  of Gertrude and Lena in your manuscript but I could not find a death record for Gertrude

Having found a marriage record for a W P Platt to Lena Mitchell

I wrongly assumed due to inconsistencies in occupation and address  that this W P Platt's  marriage to Lena to be the  second  W P  Platt 

 

multitasking  being a contributing factor, it was also getting late

 

Thanks to eagle eye Alf I was quickly corrected,  having missed Gertrude's probate record

Alls well that ends well

Thanks for the correction Alf

 

Regards Ray

[alf mcm]

Ray,

  I can see why you were misled, it happens to us all!

Kim,

  With regards to William’s daughter, Gladys Vera Platt;-

 There is a Marriage Index record of a Gladys V. Platt marrying Robert Birchall at Fylde, Lancashire in the 4^th quarter of 1930.

  There is a Death Index record of a Gladys Vera Birchall, born 29^th June 1909, dying in Surrey in May 1995.

  It seems from the above that this was William’s daughter.

 

Regards,

Alf McM

[Kimberley John Lindsay]

Dear Alf (and Ray),

Yes, his daughter - and many thanks for your excellent research. This will all find its proper place in my manuscript. 

Just damnable that the Gladys Birchall relics (no doubt containing the medals which filtered onto the Market, but also Images of W. P. Platt) have been dispersed or destroyed.

I think that other Quetta MAD types may have left named photos. Just think what is constantly coming to light in the never-ending 22 MMG thread, for example... 

Kindest regards,

Kim.

[Robert Birchall]

As the grandson of Robert Birchall and Gladys Vera Birchall (Nee Platt), I can confirm the above information is correct.

Regards,

Robert 

[Kimberley John Lindsay]

Dear All, and Robert,

Yes, happily, not only has the great-grandson of the erstwhile Capt W. P. Platt, MBE, confirmed the above - but has one 1930 Image of William Platt in his possession.

Research closure after twenty years. Voila!

Kindest regards,

Kim.