Guest Posted 2 August , 2017 Share Posted 2 August , 2017 Following attendance at the recent Tyne Cot Commemoration ceremony we are keen to try and find more information on my wife's, grandmother's, first husband who was presumed killed in action on 12th / 13th April 1918. His name was Clarence Henry Austin, 13720, and was recorded as a Lance Serjeant and is remembered on one of the Tyne Cot wall panels. In the CWGC records he is recorded as belonging to the 4th Battalion Northumberland Fusiliers but other records accessed via Find My Past potentially link him with the 12th / 13th Battalion but apparently with nor record of a transfer. Evidence from his wedding banns shows that he was in Tring in 1915 after enlisting which we think supports the 12th / 13th link as they are shown to have trained in this area whilst the 4th Bn may already be posted to France. We are keen to try and find which specific action he was killed in before the 100th anniversary of his death as the Battalions mentioned were in different divisions and locations as far as we have found so far. If anyone has any further information that would help us we would be very grateful. Steve and Melanie Hope Brussels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 2 August , 2017 Share Posted 2 August , 2017 Hi and welcome if you have access to Ancestry... Medal Index HERE - presumed dead, first into France 9/9/15 Medal Roll HERE - states 13th NF #13720 acting Sjt Soldiers Efffects HERE notes 12/13 btn - looks like war gratuity to widow Lucy SDiGW Name: Clarence Henry Austin Birth Place: Radford, Notts Death Date: 13 Apr 1918 Death Place: France and Flanders Enlistment Place: Nottingham Rank: L Sergeant Regiment: Northumberland Fusiliers Battalion: 12 13th Battalion Regimental Number: 13720 Type of Casualty: Died War Diary on National Archives for £3.50 download is HERE Reference: WO 95/2155/3 Description: 12/13 Battalion Northumberland Fusiliers Date: 1917 Aug. - 1919 Apr. or on Ancestry April 1918 for 12-13 NF starts HERE regards Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 2 August , 2017 Share Posted 2 August , 2017 Hi, When you were on FMP, did you also have a look at the image associated with this 'hit'? Sorry I can't look at the mo, my sub is currently lapsed. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 2 August , 2017 Share Posted 2 August , 2017 8 minutes ago, clk said: Hi, When you were on FMP, did you also have a look at the image associated with this 'hit'? Sorry I can't look at the mo, my sub is currently lapsed. Regards Chris No images on FMP, just transcript, but British Army, Northumberland Fusiliers 1881-1920 Transcription does state "Signal Sect'n; MIA 12-13/4/18; No indication of serving with 12/13th Bn in MR?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullybrone Posted 2 August , 2017 Share Posted 2 August , 2017 Hi, As forum member Graham Stewart provided FMP with their NF database information I'm sure he will pick up on this topic and may be able to provide more information. Steve Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 2 August , 2017 Share Posted 2 August , 2017 (edited) Hi Jon, 1 hour ago, jonbem said: No images on FMP That's unusual. The camera icon should go through to an image of the page of the GRO indices which would show the unit details, as per his death certificate. Regards Chris Edit: Looking at one that I already have, it only show the regiment, and not the battalion. Edited 2 August , 2017 by clk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 2 August , 2017 Share Posted 2 August , 2017 52 minutes ago, clk said: The camera icon no camera icon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 2 August , 2017 Share Posted 2 August , 2017 Hi Jon, 9 minutes ago, jonbem said: no camera icon Academic now I know, as it wouldn't contain the level of detail that I'd hope for, but it's very strange. This is screenshot of what I'm seeing... Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 2 August , 2017 Share Posted 2 August , 2017 s'pose it depends where looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 3 August , 2017 Share Posted 3 August , 2017 Thank you all for the information so far (and so promptly) - as a newbie to this area I had not realised the variety of sources that can be used and even that that the search results can vary as you have shown in the screenshots I will certainly be following the Ancestry links from now as they appear to be more comprehensive in some areas than FMP we are still intrigued to find which Battalion he enlisted with and the one he finally died with as the CWGC records (4th Bn) do differ from the information kindly supplied here (12/13th) although the latter is more consistent with other civilian records and the regimental history. If anyone could cast a light on this we would be very grateful We look forward to any other posts !! Kind Regards Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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