Need some help with a headstemp

[assafx]

found the King Norton one, this time the styling of the headstamp is different.

 

[MikB]

I've had something like case shoulder separation *nearly* happen with Greenwood & Batley Mk.7 .303 from 1945. My guess was the annealing op after charging and necking got omitted, leaving the shoulder work-hardened. Chambers were often cut a bit deep, and a work-hardened case shoulder might crack rather than roll forward.

 

Edited 15 July , 2020 by MikB

[assafx]

1 hour ago, MikB said:

I've had something like case shoulder separation *nearly* happen with Greenwood & Batley Mk.7 .303 from 1945. My guess was the annealing op after charging and necking got omitted, leaving the shoulder work-hardened. Chambers were often cut a bit deep, and a work-hardened case shoulder might crack rather than roll forward.

 

Thank you,

This makes more sense than what i thought.

Since i had a damaged (maybe battle damage) cartridge, i thought this one might be as well.

 

Assaf

 

 

[Interested]

Totally irrelevant to this thread, but here's a picture of another item from the Kings Norton Metal Factory, Birmingham, made in 1918 I think!

(See the small letters in the LH corner of the date)

 

[MikB]

8 hours ago, MikB said:

...

 My guess was the annealing op after charging and necking got omitted...

 

Arrrgh! Sorry, rubbish!

Of course there could be no anneal after charging. Only omission of the last one before would make sense in leaving the shoulder work-hardened, and acceptance of substandard material would probably be a more likely cause.

[assafx]

Good morning,

 

I need help again, identifying this poorly preserved example.

I can read *, 1912 and what seems to be a D.

 

Thank you,

Assaf

 

[Michael Haselgrove]

Hi Assaf,

Not a lot to go on here.  However, my guess is that it is an 8 x 50R Mannlicher cartridge made for the Austrian Government in 1912.  If the D is an R then it could have been manufactured by G. Roth.  

Regards,

Michael.

[assafx]

On 18/05/2021 at 17:50, Michael Haselgrove said:

Hi Assaf,

Not a lot to go on here.  However, my guess is that it is an 8 x 50R Mannlicher cartridge made for the Austrian Government in 1912.  If the D is an R then it could have been manufactured by G. Roth.  

Regards,

Michael.

Hi Michael,

 

I was thinking of 8X50R as well and had a couple III 1891 cases with it.

I could not find an Austrian case with D. I did not thing of the GR Monogram and the D looks a bit stylish.

I'm uploading a crop and two more examples that are even worse than the first.

 

Thank you,

Assaf

 

 

[shippingsteel]

Hello Assaf, have we not been down this road before with this particular casing, see the following thread to jog the memory.

https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/278464-austrian-casings/

Cheers, SS

[assafx]

I completely forgot (its easy to with the crazy 1year we had)

Thank You !

 

Assaf

 

[trajan]

Assaf, a crazy year for all of us, but perhaps more so for you over there than many of us! Good to see SS looking in - an excellent source on many things. 

Edited 31 May , 2021 by trajan

[assafx]

21 hours ago, trajan said:

Assaf, a crazy year for all of us, but perhaps more so for you over there than many of us! Good to see SS looking in - an excellent source on many things. 

Thank you, my leg is well and the shoulder will eventually be back to normal. Until than I'm working as usual, at least the Covid here is barely noticeable and life are almost back to normal.

 

Michael and SS thank you again for rescuing me

 

Assaf