phil1963 Posted 14 July , 2017 Share Posted 14 July , 2017 Can anybody assist with any information about the above? He was born circa 1880, but not sure where, although he did reside in Paddington, London. Prior to call up he was a chauffeur and it believed that he drove as a staff driver during the war. He has so far not been found on the 1911 census.......perhaps abroad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 14 July , 2017 Share Posted 14 July , 2017 (edited) A Harry Longhorn, born 1879, was living in Leeds in 1911 - http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbc%2f1911%2frg14%2f27054%2f0049%2f1 Between 1879 and 1881 there was only one Harry/Henry Longhorn registered - that was the Leeds man (although birth was registered in 1881). Craig Edited 14 July , 2017 by ss002d6252 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 14 July , 2017 Share Posted 14 July , 2017 Wot Craig wrote. Just to add that in 1901 he was still in Leeds, a farm labourer aet 19 yrs. Except he's indexed on Ancestry as 'Longborn'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardenerbill Posted 15 July , 2017 Share Posted 15 July , 2017 There's a medal index card for a Pte Harry Longhorn S/4 091051 Entered theatre France 18/9/1915 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 15 July , 2017 Share Posted 15 July , 2017 Phil, Where does the middle initial 'E' come from? And the date of birth? 34 minutes ago, Gardenerbill said: There's a medal index card for a Pte Harry Longhorn S/4 091051 Entered theatre France 18/9/1915 There were 3 Harrys and 4 Henrys (plus a Henry J.) born between 1874 and 1900, so trying to pin one man to one card could be inconclusive, especially if he served at home and had no medal entitlement and no MIC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardenerbill Posted 15 July , 2017 Share Posted 15 July , 2017 Dai Agreed more evidence is needed if he survived to 1918 he may be on an absent voters list somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil1963 Posted 15 July , 2017 Author Share Posted 15 July , 2017 OK........it appears from birth entries that the family have the middle initial wrong and that he is actually Henry J. Longhorn. Records show that he married a Miss Smith many miles south in Lewisham, London in 1913. My pal, a relative thinks that the family are perhaps holding stuff back. Ancestry shows his service number is R.A.S.C....M 402208. What does the M. stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 15 July , 2017 Share Posted 15 July , 2017 (edited) M was a driver prefix. Well, Henry J did marry Ethel M Smith as you say. What information are the family after? Edited 15 July , 2017 by Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 15 July , 2017 Share Posted 15 July , 2017 Henry James Longhorn was born 1884 in Carbrook, Sheffield In 1911 Henry James, a motor van driver, was living in Lewisham with his parents, James Henry and Emma. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil1963 Posted 15 July , 2017 Author Share Posted 15 July , 2017 Seem to have a mix up here as Henry J. whose parents were Henry and Elizabeth lived in Leeds. My pal believes that the story of his family tree is wrong and has been muddles up down the passing years, so we are starting again with a blank sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 15 July , 2017 Share Posted 15 July , 2017 My advice in general is to get the family tree sorted first, then try and add the military details where possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil1963 Posted 15 July , 2017 Author Share Posted 15 July , 2017 (edited) Yes, its most confusing! Electoral rolls for this rare name show a father and son both called Henry, living in Leeds and another father and son both called Henry living in London. The younger Henry of the London pair was indeed born in Sheffield in 1884. He later married in 1913 and died in 1954 aged 70. No wonder my erudite pal is confused! Edited 15 July , 2017 by phil1963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 15 July , 2017 Share Posted 15 July , 2017 19 minutes ago, phil1963 said: Yes, its most confusing! Electoral rolls for this rare name show a father and son both called Henry, living in Leeds and another father and son both called Henry living in London. The younger Henry of the London pair was indeed born in Sheffield in 1884. He later married in 1913 and died in 1954 aged 70. No wonder my erudite pal is confused! It certainly needs to go back to the bare basics - are the children of Henry known ? - if so try working back with the mothers maiden name etc Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardenerbill Posted 16 July , 2017 Share Posted 16 July , 2017 15 hours ago, Dai Bach y Sowldiwr said: M was a driver prefix. M is for Mechanical Transport and although he was most likely a driver there were other roles in Mechanical Transport Companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 16 July , 2017 Share Posted 16 July , 2017 4 hours ago, Gardenerbill said: M is for Mechanical Transport and although he was most likely a driver there were other roles in Mechanical Transport Companies. That is of course correct. Thanks for pointing out my very basic error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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