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Major Alfred Martineau, 19th Siege Battery, RGA


David Earley

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I am currently researching Major Alfred Martineau, about whom I have already written at http://www.sussexpeople.co.uk/major-alfred-john-martineau/.

 

I would like to flesh out his military career details. I have found the war diary for the 69th Siege Battery which mentions him joining and leaving,. I would like to find the diary for the 19th Siege Battery, which he was in command of from September 1916 until he was killed in April 1917. I have located the war diary on TNA at WO 95/477/6, but that only covers the period From March to June 1916.

Can anyone point me to where I can find the diary for the period during which Major Martineau served with them?

 

Thanks

 

David 

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David:  The portion of the war diary that you have is the only part of the Battery war diary that has been located.  If you have not already done so, you might wish to examine the war diaries of the Heavy Artillery Groups (HAGs) under which the Battery served during the period he was in command.  They are:

 

27th HAG from 13 Jun 16 - 13 Nov 16 (WO 95/471)

66th HAG from 13 Nov 16-3 Feb 17 (only available for the period Oct 16 - Jun 19)

7th HAG from 3 Feb 17-6 Feb 17 (WO 95/211)

30th HAG from 6 Feb 17 - 15 Mar 17 (WO 95/220)

63rd HAG from 15 Mar 17-31 Mar 17 (WO 95/395)

49th HAG from 31 Mar 17-1 Jul 17 (WO 95/544)

 

Regards. Dick Flory

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On 17/06/2017 at 19:06, rflory said:

66th HAG from 13 Nov 16-3 Feb 17 (only available for the period Oct 16 - Jun 19)

 

Hi Dick

 

Do you have the TNA file reference for this one?

 

David

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David

I hope Dick comes up with a different reference for you but the copy of WO95/395 that I obtained from TNA only includes the diary for 66 Brigade from May 1917 to Mar 1919.

 

By the way the trick to searching for a HAG diary on the National Archives website is to enter the following search terms: WO95 brigade garrison, and also add the number of the brigade you are looking for.  In this case 66 (don't add "th").

 

Peter

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On 18/06/2017 at 04:06, rflory said:

49th HAG from 31 Mar 17-1 Jul 17 (WO 95/544)

 

Hi again Dick

 

Are you sure that this is the correct HAG? I have downloaded this from TNA and the image below is of the date on which Martineau was killed. There are three Siege Batteries mentioned: Nos 57, 129 and 263.

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The diary also refers to a bombardment on Gavrelle, which is a few miles NE of Arras (Ste Catherine is a suburb of Arras), whereas Martineau was killed at or near Bully-les-Mines, near Loos, where he was buried. I have found a newspaper report which refers to him being buried in a cemetery within 50 yards of his guns. Bully-les-Mines is about 12 miles north of Arras, so his battery cannot have been in the 49th HAG.

 

David

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This extract from the diary of 63rd HAG show the 19th Siege Battery being transferred (along with 5 others). To me, the new HAG is No 79 or 99, not 49.

 

What source did you use for the dates in your post of 17 June. Is this readily accessible?

 

Thanks for your help

 

David 

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Eureka. I have found his death recorded in WO-95-477-9 for the 79th HAG.

 

I can stop spending money and finish the biography.

 

David

p.s. I would still like to find the diary for the 66th HAG as this covers a large part of his time in the war.

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David

Here's a copy of the entry from the original source.

Reference Allocation of Heavy Batteries RGA. National Archives WO95/5494

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Good luck with your search for the other parts of 66's diary (it wasn't miss-filed with the first part of WO95/395 obviously)?

As you have some of the relevant HAG diaries, and can therefore find which Corps they were in, your next line of research might be to look out the Diaries for the Corps Commander Heavy Artillery.

Peter

 

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Thanks, Peter. I will have a look.

 

david

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