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Lawryleslie

I have a copy of the account of the Collingwood Battalion's history from formation in 1914 to its final disbanding after it's decimation at the 3rd Battle of Krithia on 4Th June 1915. Important information is contained within it including photos and bibliographies of individual officers, company photos, photos of grouped NCOs and also listings of all the enlisted men including addresses and their fate after 4th June. 

Anybody who has ancestors or other connections to the Collingwoods please ask and I will try and find info on them.

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seaJane

I would be very interested to know if there is any information about the medical officers attached to the battalion. I have access to  Arthur Gaskell's History of the Medical Unit of the Royal Naval Division (published in the Journal of the RN Medical Service) and it would be interesting to compare.

 

sJ

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horatio2

Surgeon Charles Frank SCHULER RN is listed as the Battalion MO and there is a  photograph of him. He went on to serve with Howe, Anson and Hawke Battalions of the RND in 1916-16.

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Lawryleslie

As Horatio2 kindly pointed out Charles Schuler was the Battalion MO. His picture and short bibliography are below. He was listed as wounded on June 4th.

 

 

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seaJane

Thank you both! I will investigate next week and see if I have anything else on the gentleman.

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sue22w

Husband's grandfather joined Collingwood as OS on 8/9/1914. His service record indicates he was interned, possibly at Groningen from October 1914 until the end of the war.  I'm interested in any information about action and internment, including general picture of life in the camp. The record states 'on leave from Holland from 27/2/18 to 26/3/18' - how was this possible?  His name was Reginald Guest, he was from Greasbrough, Rotherham, born 1890 and his service number was K.W/885.  He spent some of his time in internment in making picture frames by embroidering insignia onto pieces of what seems to be army shirt - I have 2 of these in my possession. 

I'd be grateful for anything your history tells us. Many thanks

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horatio2

There is an image of him here:-   http://www.navalbrigade.nl/en/search/?q=guest

There are other useful links on this website (see home page),

 

Leave from internment to UK was very common.

 

The "Collingwood Battalion" document is mainly concerned with the 'new' battalion, re-formed after Antwerp and which went to Gallipoli in May 1915.

 

This man's army and RNVR enlistment papers are held at the Fleet Air Arm Museum fleetairarm.enquiries@NMRN.org.uk .

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Lawryleslie

Hello Sue

as H2 has pointed out the document covers mainly the preparation and fighting in 3rd Battle of Krithia in Gallipoli. However there is one page that briefly describes the Battalion history and the Siege of Antwerp. H2 is quite correct that it was commonplace for internees to be granted leave to UK. I obtained all my Grandfathers RNVR/RND Service Records from the Fleet Air Arm Museum. It cost £20 but was well worth it and they are extremely helpful. Below is the extract from the document that may be of interest. There is also a very good website regarding Gronigen Internment camp that may be of interest. The internees also produce a Camp Periodical which I have never been able to find online but I know copies are held at the IWM.

 

http://www.wereldoorlog1418.nl/englishcamp/

 

 

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sue22w

Thank you, that's really interesting reading. 

The Illustrated War News, that Reg kept and passed down, describes the siege of Antwerp and says that afterwards, the battalions were 'misdirected by a spy' into Holland. I realise of course, that this was contemporary reporting where morale sometimes trumped accuracy in this periodical, but it was an interesting view.

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Niko

Strange that the text mentions 'Colingwood occupied Fort 1', as neither Fort 1, nor Redoubt 1 were ever in the area occupied by the Collingwood and the Fort itself was still under Belgian command and occupation.

 

At one moment, more than half of the Belgian garrison left the fort (they were Liège and Namur veterans, they knew what happened to the concrete forts there and were now in a brick fort), but the commander of Fort2 was ordered to send a part of his garrison to Fort1. After they entered the fort, the bridges were blown (both in Fort1 and Fort2) to be sure nobody ran!

 

During the retreat from Antwerp, the garrison of Fort2 escaped via a ladder over the moath, but the troops in Fort1 stayed put and the fort was the last of the inner ring to surrender.

 

Fort1 was even in 1914 not longer part of the 2nd defensive line, which started in Fort2 towards the battery South on the Scheldt river southwards, and from Fort2 via trenches running west towards the Great Enceinte of the city. This area was covered (between Fort1 and Fort2) by the inundation of the Schijn river.

 

The interval between Fort2 and Fort3 (including redoubt 1-3, although some Belgian artillerist were still defending those) was manned by the Hawke Battalion.

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michaeldr

Niko,

 

I think that you are right here

The Collingwood Battalion were placed between Forts Nos.3 & 4,

this order being given at about 02.30 am on the 7th

[see p.18 of Len Sellers' book 'The Hood Battalion']

 

Also General Rawlinson's report of 18th October 1914 confirms that

'The retirement to the second line of Forts was successfully carried out by General Paris at 2 am on the 7th and the Naval Division posted in the trenches along the whole line from Fort No.2 on the left to the Scheldt, the forts themselves being held by the Belgians, while the Naval Division were busy improving the trenches.'

[see p. 132 of Len Sellers' magazine RND, issue No.2, September 1997]

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