Terry Denham Posted 21 January , 2017 Share Posted 21 January , 2017 (edited) CWGC added the following casualties to the WW1 War Dead Roll today. All are temporarily commemorated in the United Kingdom Book of Remembrance BRAMFITT, Margaret Elizabeth Nurse Voluntary Aid Detachment Died 09.12.18 Age 35 BROWN, Evelyn Gladys Nurse Voluntary Aid Detachment Died 04.05.16 Age 28 BUCKLEY, Florence Nurse Voluntary Aid Detachment Died 25.07.18 Age 41 CAREW, Margaret Nurse Voluntary Aid Detachment Died 03.11.18 Age 28 CARTER, Ileene Meredith Nurse Voluntary Aid Detachment Died 20.04.17 Age 23 CASSIDY, Sarah Member Voluntary Aid Detachment Died 08.11.18 Age 32 CRILLY, Josephine Mary Nurse Voluntary Aid Detachment Died 11.11.18 Age 36 CRONIN, John Lance Corporal 17403 Royal Engineers Died 04.09.16 Age 28 DENNY, Philip Private S/12812 3 Bn, Cameron Highlanders Died 18.01.17 Age 42 DRODGE, Doris May Member Voluntary Aid Detachment Died 01.11.18 Age 16 GENTLES, Thomas Acting Serjeant 8513 5 Res. Bn, Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) Died 03.01.17 Age 31 GOODING, George Ernest Serjeant SE/29765 Army Veterinary Corps Died 16.09.20 Age 43 HARVEY, James Private 3/9737 10 Bn, Suffolk Regiment Died 09.07.19 Age 53 HUGHES, Michael Private 16374 11 Bn, Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) Died 15.09.17 Age 29 LACEY, John Private 10098 3 Bn, Royal Irish Regiment Died 19.12.18 Age 36 LAIRD, Alexander Private 7094 4 Bn, Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) Died 03.04.18 Age 22 LYNCH, William Private 14579 8 Bn, Royal Dublin Fusiliers Died 24.02.19 Age 37 PETER, Alexander Private 12319 6 Bn, Gordon Highlanders Died 16.04.19 Age 25 SHEARER, Robert Private 201407 5 Bn, Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) Died 03.10.17 Age 30 WILLETT, Arthur Rifleman 52005 5 Bn, Rifle Brigade Died 28.02.19 Age 21 NOT FORGOTTEN Several of the above were In From the Cold Project cases. - Nurse Bramfitt died of a gastric ulcer (Volunteer: Chris Harley) - Nurse Brown died of meningitis (Volunteer: Jim Strawbridge) - Nurse Buckley died of cerebral haemorrhage (Volunteer: Jim Strawbridge) - Nurse Carew died of influenza (Volunteer: Chris Harley) - Nurse Carter died of cerebral spinal fever (Volunteer: Jim Strawbridge) - Member Cassidy died of pneumonia (Volunteer: Chris Harley) - Nurse Crilly died of influenza (Volunteer: Chris Harley) - Pte Denny died post-discharge of tuberculosis (Volunteer: Mark Duffy) - Member Drodge died of influenza (Volunteer: Jim Strawbridge) - A/Sjt Gentles died post-discharge of tuberculosis (Volunteer: Mark Duffy) - Pte Harvey died post-discharge of tuberculosis of the bladder (Volunteer: Tony Pringle) - Pte Hughes died post-discharge of nephritis (Volunteer: Mark Duffy) - Pte Lacey died post-discharge of heart disease (Volunteer: Mark Duffy) - Pte Laird died post-discharge of tuberculosis (Volunteer: Mark Duffy) - Pte Lynch died post-discharge of tuberculosis (Volunteer: Mark Duffy) - Pte Peter died post-discharge of tuberculosis (Volunteer: Mark Duffy) - Pte Shearer died post-discharge of heart disease (Volunteer: Mark Duffy) Edited 21 January , 2017 by Terry Denham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Evans Posted 21 January , 2017 Share Posted 21 January , 2017 George Ernest Gooding was put forward by me and more information about him can be found here Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapperBoo Posted 22 January , 2017 Share Posted 22 January , 2017 17403 L/Cpl John Cronin enlisted into the Royal Engineers on 28 April 1908. At the outbreak of WW1 he was serving as a surveyor in West Africa. He entered the war on 19 September 1914 attached to the Nigerian Regiment; he held the temporary rank of Sergeant. Whilst serving with the Nigerian Regiment John became ill with Tuberculosis and returned to England. He was discharged on 27 April 1915 judged physically unfit for war service. John Cronin died at Peamount Sanatorium, Newcastle, Co Dublin on 4 September 1916. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 23 January , 2017 Share Posted 23 January , 2017 May They Rest In Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 1 March , 2017 Share Posted 1 March , 2017 CAREW, MARGARET Rank: Nurse Date of Death: 03/11/1918 Age: 28 Regiment/Service: Voluntary Aid Detachment Grave Reference: N.E. of Church. Cemetery: RATTERY (ST. MARY) CHURCHYARD Additional Information: Daughter of Maud Eliza Carew and the late Revd. Henry William Carew, of Rattery, Devon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 24 March , 2017 Share Posted 24 March , 2017 LAIRD, ALEXANDER Rank: Private Service No: 7094 Date of Death: 03/04/1918 Age: 22 Regiment/Service: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) 4th Bn. Grave Reference: T. 31. Cemetery: NEILSTON CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Agnes Laird and the late James Laird of Neilston, Renfrewshire. N.B. Recent research has shown that Private Laird is buried here. The Commission is in the process of producing a headstone to mark his grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 30 March , 2017 Share Posted 30 March , 2017 LYNCH, WILLIAM Rank: Private Service No: 14579 Date of Death: 24/02/1919 Age: 37 Regiment/Service: Royal Dublin Fusiliers 8th Bn. Grave Reference: Garden. ND. 108. Cemetery: GLASNEVIN (OR PROSPECT) CEMETERY N.B. Recent research has shown that Private Lynch is buried here. The Commission is in the process of producing a headstone to mark his grave. Commemoration Moved From UK BOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 24 April , 2017 Share Posted 24 April , 2017 DRODGE, DORIS MAY Rank: Member Date of Death: 01/11/1918 Age: 16 Regiment/Service: Voluntary Aid Detachment Grave Reference: Special Memorial (right of entrance). Cemetery: WESTLEIGH (ST. PETER) CHURCHYARD Additional Information: Daughter of Frederick Charles Drodge, of Instow, Devon. N.B. Recent research has shown that this casualty is buried here. The Commission is in the process of producing a special memorial headstone to commemorate her as it is not possible to mark her actual grave. Commemoration Moved From UK BOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 6 December , 2017 Share Posted 6 December , 2017 CARTER, Ileene Meredith Nurse Voluntary Aid Detachment Died 20.04.17 Age 23 Commemoration Moved From UK BOR to Foxearth Saints Peter & Paul Churchyard, Essex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 12 February , 2018 Share Posted 12 February , 2018 GOODING, George Ernest Serjeant SE/29765 Army Veterinary Corps Died 16.09.20 Age 43 Commemoration Moved From UK BOR to Greenwich Cemetery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Evans Posted 12 February , 2018 Share Posted 12 February , 2018 2 hours ago, chrisharley9 said: GOODING, George Ernest Serjeant SE/29765 Army Veterinary Corps Died 16.09.20 Age 43 Commemoration Moved From UK BOR to Greenwich Cemetery. In a change from previous policy, the CWGC have accepted George's actual grave as the place of commemoration, rather than add him to the Screen Wall. His original headstone survives in the "conservation area" in the NW corner of the cemetery. Grave Ref: 3 Con A.359 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 14 February , 2018 Share Posted 14 February , 2018 I personally have always disliked the use of screen walls where a known grave exists. Can understand it where in the case of a common grave where there are multiple burials of unrelated persons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Evans Posted 14 February , 2018 Share Posted 14 February , 2018 Chris, That's what makes it different from their previous approach. This is a common grave, accomodating another ten, unrelated, civilian burials from September and October 1920. As far as I am aware, despite there being over 200 WW1 graves in the two plots in this corner of the cemetery, CWGC has never commemorated them in-situ, including the 35-40 that originally had privately erected headstones. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Regiano Posted 14 February , 2018 Share Posted 14 February , 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, chrisharley9 said: I personally have always disliked the use of screen walls where a known grave exists. Can understand it where in the case of a common grave where there are multiple burials of unrelated persons. Pardon my ignorance in all this but could you explain what you mean by "screen walls"? The reason I ask is that I am aware of a soldier who is commemorated at Thiepval. However, he has a grave in England (he died after getting back to the UK). He was accidentally shot when in the trenches, dying in July 1916. What I am interested to know is that, if I were to persuade the CWGC that he did have a grave in the UK (the plot contains other members of his family and there is no CWGC commemoration) what, if anything would happen? Specifically, would his name be removed from Thiepval and would the CWGC do anything in the UK? I would not like the final position to be where he is not commemorated either in France or the UK. Thanks in advance. Reg Edited 14 February , 2018 by Don Regiano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrenchrat22 Posted 14 February , 2018 Share Posted 14 February , 2018 Don who is the soldier is question. If you have details of the Grave and if he died in service, a copy of the death certificate. Then the cwgc would place a headstone if possible on the actual grave or nearby at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Regiano Posted 14 February , 2018 Share Posted 14 February , 2018 Thanks for the fast reply. Unfortunately, I don't have access to my papers which contain all his details and won't be able to access them for a while. he was actually a soldier that my wife was researching. I will get back to you as soon as I can but it will be a little while. We don't have a copy of his death certificate. However, his papers contain several references associated with his death ... notes from medical officers, letters asking for the forwarding of effects, details for his death plaque, funeral arrangements etc. He died in a military hospital around 3 months or so after his wounding. I will be in touch. Regards. Reg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 15 February , 2018 Share Posted 15 February , 2018 Hello Reg Have already dealt with several cases where the casualty was listed on memorials to the missing abroad actually died in the UK & is buried here. It is a relatively simple process as long as we have the evidence. What happens with regard to the grave depends on the burial authority. In my experience the following could happen a. If the grave has a private memorial which is in good order then this would be regarded as a fitting memorial. If not CWGC would ask permission to erect one of their headstones on the grave. b. If the grave has no headstone then CWGC would ask permission to erect one of their headstones. c. If the grave is a common grave then CWGC would either erect a special memorial in the cemetery or add the name to a screen wall commemoration if one exists. A special memorial for intents & purposes is a CWGC headstone, but will bear the words "Known to be buried in this cemetery". https://www.cwgc.org/find-a-cemetery/cemetery/42100/greenwich-cemetery/ if you follow this link the photo on the page shows an example of a screen wall commemoration. With regard to the memorial to the missing aboard the casualty's name would be moved from there to the new place of commemoration on the CWGC database. However physically the name would remain on the memorial until the panel was replaced. No commemoration would ever disappear due to the process. Just let me know what you want to do when you are ready. Cheers Chris On 12/02/2018 at 20:38, Phil Evans said: In a change from previous policy, the CWGC have accepted George's actual grave as the place of commemoration, rather than add him to the Screen Wall. His original headstone survives in the "conservation area" in the NW corner of the cemetery. Grave Ref: 3 Con A.359 I think this has probably happened simply because there is a headstone on the grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 15 February , 2018 Share Posted 15 February , 2018 A screen wall commemoration exists where the burial authority refuses to allow the erection of a headstone on a grave due to their policies with regard to common graves. By this I mean unpurchased graves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 2 May , 2018 Share Posted 2 May , 2018 WILLETT, Arthur Rifleman 52005 5 Bn, Rifle Brigade Died 28.02.19 Age 21 Commemoration moved to Tower Hamlets Cemetery where his name will be added to the screen wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 30 July , 2018 Share Posted 30 July , 2018 (edited) CASSIDY, Sarah Member Voluntary Aid Detachment Died 08.11.18 Age 32 Commemoration Moved To Kilshany Cemetery, Co Clare. Edited 30 July , 2018 by chrisharley9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 5 August , 2018 Share Posted 5 August , 2018 (edited) CRILLY, Josephine Mary Nurse Voluntary Aid Detachment Died 11.11.18 Age 36 Commemoration Moved To Clonmore Cemetery, Co Lough. Edited 5 June , 2019 by chrisharley9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 5 June , 2019 Share Posted 5 June , 2019 GENTLES, Thomas Acting Serjeant 8513 5 Res. Bn, Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) Died 03.01.17 Age 31 Commemoration moved to Glasgow Necropolis. He is to receive a CWGC headstone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 3 March , 2021 Share Posted 3 March , 2021 PETER, Alexander Private 12319 6 Bn, Gordon Highlanders Died 16.04.19 Age 25 Grave found Inverurie Cemetery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 17 October , 2021 Share Posted 17 October , 2021 BUCKLEY, Florence Nurse Voluntary Aid Detachment Died 25.07.18 Age 41 Grave found Saddleworth St Chad Churchyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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